Sex Education

[CV75]

15 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said:

Nocturnal, not “nocturnally.” 
 

Missions is a noun and takes an adjective (nocturnal) not an adverb (nocturnally). 

But then the acyrological pun wouldn't work.

[CV75]

2 hours ago, dougtheavenger said:

What is a CFR?

Something that hurts after sex, especially if it comes from the health department.

[The Nehor]

2 hours ago, dougtheavenger said:

My favorite episodes of Seinfeld are the ones where George meets the gang at the usual cafe and reveals that his mother caught him masturbating and says he's never gonna do that again. Everyone, Elaine, Cramer, and Jerry, are skeptical and they decide to hold a competition betting $100 each. In following episodes, George discovers that he becomes more intelligent by leading a celibate lifestyle. 

Not saying the George would immediately drop 15 IQ points by having sex with a Portuguese waitress as depicted in the show but I am asking you to consider that masturbation may make you stupid and, in fact, may be making society stupid. Intelligence comes from the Holy Ghost and chastity invites the Holy Ghost into our lives. So, a period of celibacy even if followed by a marital relationship could make you more intelligent. What if widespread chastity increased the IQ of the nation and world.

First off, IQ scores are of very questionable value as a measure of intelligence.

Secondly please tell me that you did not get this idea from Seinfeld where it was played as a joke.

[bluebell]

2 hours ago, dougtheavenger said:

The competition was who could remain celibate the longest. You might need to watch Seinfeld on Netflix to get the context

I just watched that episode last week. Unless they have two different contests (and they might, I’m only in season 5). 

[bluebell]

3 hours ago, dougtheavenger said:

You are arguing with my reality

He’s not arguing with your reality. He’s telling you that your reality doesn’t apply to every male.

It may be true for you but that doesn’t mean it’s true for every guy.

[Hamba Tuhan]

8 hours ago, dougtheavenger said:

A nocturnal emission is not an orgasm ...

A nocturnal emission is an ejaculation of sperm while dreaming absent the ecstasy and/or pain that accompany orgasm via sex or masturbation.

Neither of these statements lines up -- at all! -- with my lifetime of personal experiences.

[Hamba Tuhan]

7 hours ago, rongo said:

Boys sometimes feel guilt, and don't understand that they had no control or agency with it. This should be taught by parents, but often isn't, so boys have to navigate this on their own, with whatever sources at their disposal.

This was an alien concept to me until a few years ago. One of my former young men, recently returned from his mission, confided in me how upset he was that he couldn't remain 'chaste' at night. In his case, however, he was just referring to erections. I was dumbfounded ... and explained to him that 'erections are a normal part of REM sleep for males of all ages, even in infants and children', which means that 'most men have four to five full erections' each night, 'with each erection lasting about 25-35 minutes'. And that doesn't even touch on non-sexual erections whilst awake ...

So yeah, we can certainly do a better job of teaching everyone genuine facts.

Edited January 2, 2022 by Hamba Tuhan

[Chum]

This thread about fart sex is getting a surprising amount of engagement. Mormons are such good sports.

[CV75]

10 hours ago, teddyaware said:

Why would this be locked? We can’t discuss the way God designed the male human body, in connection with a discussion on the challenges associated with celibacy and abstinence apropos to the law of chastity, without getting censored?

I too thought it was going to get political. Whew!

[The Nehor]

2 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said:

Neither of these statements lines up -- at all! -- with my lifetime of personal experiences.

Same.

[dougtheavenger]

2 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said:

Neither of these statements lines up -- at all! -- with my lifetime of personal experiences.

You are wrong, except that nocturnal emissions are not even ejeculations. With nocturnal emissions, the sperm simply runs out. It is not projected with any force at all.

An orgasm projects the sperm. One hilarious 1969 version of a film; "Portnoy's Complaint", depicts some guy who masturbates while lying down when a girl refuses to finish a hand job and ends up with his own sperm in his own eye. This is an accurate depiction of what could happen with an orgasm that could never happen with a nocturnal emission.

These are all simple facts and sex education that ignores facts is inferior education.

[dougtheavenger]

1 minute ago, dougtheavenger said:

You are wrong, except that nocturnal emissions are not even ejeculations. With nocturnal emissions, the sperm simply runs out. It is not projected with any force at all.

An orgasm projects the sperm. One hilarious 1969 version of a film; "Portnoy's Complaint", depicts some guy who masturbates while lying down when a girl refuses to finish a hand job and ends up with his own sperm in his own eye. This is an accurate depiction of what could happen with an orgasm that could never happen with a nocturnal emission.

These are all simple facts and sex education that ignores facts is inferior education.

I guess I shouldn't say "You are wrong" but rather, I find you hard to believe.

[dougtheavenger]

2 hours ago, bluebell said:

He’s not arguing with your reality. He’s telling you that your reality doesn’t apply to every male.

It may be true for you but that doesn’t mean it’s true for every guy.

Your statement sounds reasonable, but I am still skeptical and I believe I have literally millions of corroborating witnesses on my side.

[Hamba Tuhan]

21 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said:

You are wrong, except that nocturnal emissions are not even ejeculations [sic]. With nocturnal emissions, the sperm simply runs out. It is not projected with any force at all.

Mate, you seriously may need to see a doctor. What you are describing isn't in any way normal. If accurate in your case, it may not even be healthy.

[ttribe]

[strappinglad]

41 minutes ago, Hamba Tuhan said:

It is not projected with any force at all.

Maybe it depends on the plot of the dream.

Now, I ask this in all seriousness. Is there a female equivalent here? My survey of one says no but she has heard of such. Should I start a poll ? 

I fear this tread has crossed a line. Sorry. 

[Calm]

3 minutes ago, strappinglad said:

Maybe it depends on the plot of the dream.

Now, I ask this in all seriousness. Is there a female equivalent here? My survey of one says no but she has heard of such. Should I start a poll ? 

I fear this tread has crossed a line. Sorry. 

Do you mean do females have nocturnal emissions…yes, but not as frequent or obvious  

https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-is-a-wet-dream-and-what-does-it-mean-3015090#toc-can-women-have-wet-dreams

 

[Fether]

This thread is hilarious xD

Those nocturnal releases or whatever they are called definitely did not hurt when I was in high school and my mission haha.

Celibacy, from what I understand, refers entirely to sex and nothing else. Am I wrong?

[Calm]

11 minutes ago, Fether said:

Celibacy, from what I understand, refers entirely to sex and nothing else. Am I wrong?

According to the dictionary you are right at least. I don’t believe I have ever heard it used for anything else, even those who go for porn instead of sex are considered celibate.  For example, “incel” means involuntarily celibate and that group is purely about not getting the girls…live ones they can touch at least. (One of the bizarre twists of humanity is the original founder of the incel movement was a woman trying to establish a supportive, inclusive community for people who were lonely, especially with the issue of not having sex at all or for a long time due to the stigma associated with that for many.)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45284455

Edited January 2, 2022 by Calm

[Cordelia]

Where in the left field am I?

[The Nehor]

3 hours ago, dougtheavenger said:

You are wrong, except that nocturnal emissions are not even ejeculations. With nocturnal emissions, the sperm simply runs out. It is not projected with any force at all.

An orgasm projects the sperm. One hilarious 1969 version of a film; "Portnoy's Complaint", depicts some guy who masturbates while lying down when a girl refuses to finish a hand job and ends up with his own sperm in his own eye. This is an accurate depiction of what could happen with an orgasm that could never happen with a nocturnal emission.

These are all simple facts and sex education that ignores facts is inferior education.

Wait, someone made a film out of that book? How could you do that novel as a film? Just…..no.

Okay, having done some internet research I can now say it was done very poorly and tastelessly. I mean, the novel was pretty tasteless but it was a good kind of tasteless.

3 hours ago, dougtheavenger said:

Your statement sounds reasonable, but I am still skeptical and I believe I have literally millions of corroborating witnesses on my side.

Please don’t invite them here to testify. Instead just look at the medical stuff already out there. Okay?

[The Nehor]

1 hour ago, Cordelia said:

Where in the left field am I?

There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call "Suboptimal Sex Education".

[Calm]

2 hours ago, Cordelia said:

Where in the left field am I?

Trust me, most of us are wondering the same thing. 

[Calm]

1 hour ago, The Nehor said:

Wait, someone made a film out of that book? How could you do that novel as a film? Just…..no.

Okay, having done some internet research I can now say it was done very poorly and tastelessly. I mean, the novel was pretty tasteless but it was a good kind of tasteless.

I don’t even want to know how either of you are familiar with the title. 
 

Required reading, no doubt, for high school English and Doug decided to watch the movie instead of reading as it would take less time. 

Edited January 2, 2022 by Calm

[Kenngo1969]

8 hours ago, Cordelia said:

Where in the left field am I?