dougtheavenger Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, bluebell said: Seriously. And why would satan care either. This discussion is so dumb, and laughably incorrect. You are asking why Satan lies. To answer that we need to go back to a much more basic level. Let it suffice that he's lying to you now with a lot of determination.
The Nehor Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: For one thing the Kinsley research, as presented, contradicts itself. First it claims a frequency of 3 weeks for a celibate 15 year-old that means at least 3 weeks abstaining from sex or masturbation to have a nocturnal emission. Then it talks about married men having nocturnal emissions. Sure, provided the married man abstains from sex for at least weeks. The average young married couple has sex twice a week. So Kinsley's research is misrepresented, poorly presented or just plain crap. The fact that so many want to defend this nonsense is sad. Okay, I am going to explain this carefully and it is very important. Human bodies are not all identical and vary in all kinds of ways. Just because something is typical does not make it universal. Just because something is rare does not mean it does not happen. If monitoring your secretions or lack thereof and viewing them as a totem of faithfulness or celibacy works for you then please stop anyways because it is creepy. And please don’t teach anyone else this weirdness. 3
mfbukowski Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Nehor said: And please don’t teach anyone else this weirdness. Definitely too much information. But I like his raincoat!
bluebell Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: You are asking why Satan lies. To answer that we need to go back to a much more basic level. Let it suffice that he's lying to you now with a lot of determination. No I'm not. I'm asking why satan would try to convince any woman of the lie that you are claiming he is trying to convince us of. 1
mfbukowski Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 5 hours ago, dougtheavenger said: Nope Nehor. It is your post that is wrong or at least highly unusual. During 30 years of marriage and 6 kids, I can confidently report 0 nocturnal emissions (NC) though I was never separated from my wife for more than 2 weeks before my 50s. Prior to my marriage, I had plenty of experience with NCs, A mention of NCs in a novel by Isaac Bashevis Singer led to a discussion with my Bishop. One instance during my mission in Holland where our landlady did our laundry caused a slight concern making me realize that my most private thoughts might be be gleaned. I have to say that I am astonished that any male can believe the rubbish spouted or implied by the wiki page or some posters in this discussion Totally inappropriate 1
dougtheavenger Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, mfbukowski said: Definitely too much information. But I like his raincoat! This post is an obvious attempt to suppress the truth. What truth? Chastity makes us more intelligence. -1
dougtheavenger Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, bluebell said: No I'm not. I'm asking why satan would try to convince any woman of the lie that you are claiming he is trying to convince us of. Not sure, but there is clearly an attempt to promote a lie no male will believe right here on this discussion board.
dougtheavenger Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, The Nehor said: Okay, I am going to explain this carefully and it is very important. Human bodies are not all identical and vary in all kinds of ways. Just because something is typical does not make it universal. Just because something is rare does not mean it does not happen. If monitoring your secretions or lack thereof and viewing them as a totem of faithfulness or celibacy works for you then please stop anyways because it is creepy. And please don’t teach anyone else this weirdness. Arguing for inferior sex education by citing the rare exceptions is no excuse. Furthermore, it is clear that you and others have been trying to obfuscate the facts by various means including personal attacks on the messenger. FACT: Nocturnal Emissions are not orgasms. They are a token of male celibacy. Edited January 3, 2022 by dougtheavenger
Chum Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: Chastity makes us more intelligence. This is utterly brilliant exactly as written. 4
dougtheavenger Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 56 minutes ago, The Nehor said: The rubbish, as you call it, comes from first-hand experience and the general medical consensus of doctors who have a much larger sample size to gather data from. Your evidence is just you and you are trying to prove a negative by the fact that you haven’t experienced it. it would be like arguing that penguins don’t exist because you have never personally seen one. You may have an issue with some level of self-importance if you are seriously trying to argue that your experience defines the experience of everyone of the same sex. Note that when you experienced something in your story you consulted with a bishop. In other words you sought information as to what this experience was. I am not sure why you are obsessed with this point. Why would you case whether an NE is a mark of celibacy? The last thing the world needs is some male version of a proof of virginity/celibacy or whatever. "In other words you sought information as to what this experience was" No I sought the Bishop's opinion on Singer's viewpoint. This is the problem with putting words in people's mouths.
The Nehor Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: This post is an obvious attempt to suppress the truth. What truth? Chastity makes us more intelligence. If you told me you were currently committing adultery I could see how there is anecdotal evidence to support that conclusion. 9 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: Not sure, but there is clearly an attempt to promote a lie no male will believe right here on this discussion board. Many males here have publicly and repeatedly said they believe and even know it. 5 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: Arguing for inferior sex education by citing the rare exceptions is no excuse. Furthermore, it is clear that you and others have been trying to obfuscate the facts by various means including personal attacks on the messenger. FACT: Nocturnal Emissions are not orgasms. They are a token of male celibacy. Nope. You can discard that with the bloody sheets as another discredited token of virginity. 1
Mike Drop Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 34 minutes ago, The Nehor said: How is Stan? Did he ever get out of that involuntary psychiatric hold and transition to regular therapy? He did! Thanks for asking. Actually he just got married. You want me to give you his contact information and you can ask him how he overcame his fear of women? If he can find a soulmate anyone can!
The Nehor Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: Chastity makes us more intelligence. 3
The Nehor Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Mike Drop said: He did! Thanks for asking. Actually he just got married. You want me to give you his contact information and you can ask him how he overcame his fear of women? If he can find a soulmate anyone can! Nah, I like a soulmate as much as anyone but his soulmate looks way too similar to his mom for me to want to follow his advice and get the same result.
Chum Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 40 minutes ago, The Nehor said: How is Stan? Did he ever get out of that involuntary psychiatric hold and transition to regular therapy? Just because, I offer that there is only one true Stan. 1
bluebell Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: Not sure, but there is clearly an attempt to promote a lie no male will believe right here on this discussion board. They don't believe it because their own experiences have show it's not true.
Chum Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: 51 minutes ago, bluebell said: Seriously. And why would satan care either. This discussion is so dumb, and laughably incorrect. You are asking why Satan lies Perhaps if I scramble the letters in BB's post this will become true. Edited January 3, 2022 by Chum
bluebell Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: FACT: Nocturnal Emissions are not orgasms. They are a token of male celibacy. No they aren't. Men who aren't celibate still have them.
Peacefully Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, mfbukowski said: Oy vey! Still going two days later! 1 hour ago, mfbukowski said: The point is that they are involuntary, and therefore not sinful. Question answered, thread over. Good luck with that, lol! Why was it even started? 1
mfbukowski Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 56 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: This post is an obvious attempt to suppress the truth. What truth? Chastity makes us more intelligence. Oh my.
Peacefully Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: Okay, I am going to explain this carefully and it is very important. Human bodies are not all identical and vary in all kinds of ways. Just because something is typical does not make it universal. Just because something is rare does not mean it does not happen. If monitoring your secretions or lack thereof and viewing them as a totem of faithfulness or celibacy works for you then please stop anyways because it is creepy. And please don’t teach anyone else this weirdness. We can only hope he isn’t a primary or YM teacher. This is the kind of stuff that screws with LDS kid’s heads. 2
mfbukowski Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Peacefully said: We can only hope he isn’t a primary or YM teacher. This is the kind of stuff that screws with LDS kid’s heads. VERY scary thought. 1
bluebell Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, Peacefully said: We can only hope he isn’t a primary or YM teacher. This is the kind of stuff that screws with LDS kid’s heads. Amen to that. 1
Cordelia Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 The philosophies of a man mingled with... I don't know what. 1
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