Sexism in churches is harmful to women's health, new study says

[bluebell]

35 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

Of course our church structure disregards many strengths and potential contributions of women.  
Just the fact that women only recently were given green lights to pray in general meetings should alert us to the likelihood that our routines and traditions blind us to our cultural limitations.  
Never mind getting the priesthood. I think we already have it.  Rather, my proposal is that the church recognize the myriad of options there are to lift women and use their talents more to progress the gospel and build confidence in our girls. 
 

Women can count money and conduct meetings and greet ward members and be final speakers and on and on and on- things we don’t even consider.  For what? Because someone’s wife says they don’t want the responsibility? 

I’m out of rep points today but you get an amen from me.

(Just wanted to say that women sometimes speak last in my ward. That seems to be an individual bishop issue rather than church-wide policy or teaching). 

[MustardSeed]

6 minutes ago, bluebell said:

Just wanted to say that women sometimes speak last in my ward. That seems to be an individual bishop issue rather than church-wide policy or teaching).

Thank you- 

Yes,  I think so much of what ends up limiting us is individual comfort. If that makes sense.  It’s unnecessary, and it helps me to talk it out here, to invite critical thinking (as opposed to common criticism) and invite very needed change. I  Don’t think it needs be  as threatening as I observe it tends to be with many. 

[bluebell]

17 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

Thank you- 

Yes,  I think so much of what ends up limiting us is individual comfort. If that makes sense.  It’s unnecessary, and it helps me to talk it out here, to invite critical thinking (as opposed to common criticism) and invite very needed change. I  Don’t think it needs be  as threatening as I observe it tends to be with many. 

I agree. 

[Meadowchik]

49 minutes ago, Calm said:

But it was only 88 Saints and did not examine the variables that Bluebell pointed out.  That could mean putting Saints in the same category as other denominations without adjusting for lack of choice of callings and financial benefits could lead to major error of findings. 

I don't see those as presenting a problem with this study. It is not intended as a focus on any one denomination, but as an analysis of the measurable characteristics of many denominations, varied as they may be. 

[katherine the great]

29 minutes ago, AtlanticMike said:

Yes, even after over 20 years of marriage my wife and I still have sex 3 or 4 times a week, practice makes perfect😁, just in case we decide to have another child. Apparently I'm a professional impregnator, at least that's what my wife tells me.

29 minutes ago, AtlanticMike said:

Yes, I have experience with that to😁, taste a lot sweeter than the milk you can buy in the store.😁. 

Not interested in your sex life. TMI. You miss the entire point of the question. 

[AtlanticMike]

3 hours ago, katherine the great said:

You miss the entire point of the question. 

No, I understood what you were getting at. But I had a lot of fun typing my answer, I laughed the whole time😂. Maybe I had to much sugar this morning.

Poster and his post removed from the thread.

[Calm]

41 minutes ago, Meadowchik said:

I don't see those as presenting a problem with this study. It is not intended as a focus on any one denomination, but as an analysis of the measurable characteristics of many denominations, varied as they may be. 

But if the level of sexism is a result in part on actual and/or perceived differences in choice, no gender having the same level of choice as exists in the other organizations they are being combined with could render conclusions as applied to the Saints invalid. 
 

Same with financial benefits if they contribute to higher levels of satisfaction, feelings of being respected, etc. 

My brain is going to an analogy of research on diabetics in general that does not make adjustments for Type 1 diabetics who have less choice when it comes to insulin use for research on diet affecting insulin used as the studied variable.  And I am now flashing back to all the diet advice we got when my daughter was diagnosed with promises she wouldn’t have to be dependent on insulin if she was committed and we would have to explain “thanks, but that is Type II, not Type I”.

Edited April 22, 2021 by Calm

[webbles]

17 hours ago, JustAnAustralian said:

Quote

First, we use a dichotomous measure (labeled “board”) indicating whether an “otherwise qualified woman” in the congregation would be permitted to “serve as a full-fledged member of the congregation’s main governing body or coordinating committee” (0 = yes, 1 = no). This measure of women’s representation in governance is particularly important for assessing the relationship between structural sexism and health given the accumulating evidence showing women’s political representation is vital for population health both in the United States and in the developing world (Homan 2017; Quamruzzaman and Lange 2016). Furthermore, although restricting women from governing boards is less common than other forms of religious institutional sexism, it is perhaps the most dangerous for health as it indicates a complete lack of decision-making power for women within the congregation.

Second, we use another dichotomous measure (labeled “leader”) indicating whether an “otherwise qualified woman” would be permitted to serve as the head clergyperson or primary religious leader of the congregation (0 = yes, 1 = no). Restricting women from the top rung on the congregational leadership ladder is a potentially powerful form of religious institutional sexism, as head clergy hold a great deal of power within a congregation. Additionally, much of the scholarship on gender inequality within places of worship centers on the gender-based prohibition on clergy positions, or what has been termed “the stained-glass ceiling” (e.g., adams 2007; Bartkowski and Shah 2014).

Third, we created a sexism scale, treated as a continuous measure, which is a summary measure indicating how many of the following things women are prohibited from doing in the congregation: teaching co-ed classes, preaching at a main worship service, serving on the governing body, and being the head clergyperson/ leader. Scores range from 0 (indicating no restrictions on women’s roles) to 4 (indicating women are prohibited from all four activities). The four items used in the sexism scale are all moderately correlated (correlation coefficients range from .29 to .69, see Table S3 in the online supplement) and the scale alpha is .71, indicating that the index reflects a valid construct. In addition to this straightforward index approach to creating a sexism scale, we also conducted supplemental analyses using a latent variable approach with structural equation modeling (see Tables S4 and S5 in the online supplement).

Results from these supplemental analyses did not meaningfully differ from the main results presented here. We chose the sum index approach using OLS as the main model for simplicity, ease of interpretation, and compatibility with other analyses conducted herein. All three structural sexism measures are coded such that high values indicate greater sexism in congregations. Our first two measures are important because they center on the most salient and perhaps most detrimental forms of religious institutional sexism and allow us to individually evaluate their effects. Our scale measure is useful because it combines these measures with two additional indicators to provide a more comprehensive assessment of the degree to which women are excluded from a variety of meaningful leadership roles within places of worship. Including all three measures allows us to account for women’s power and status in governance, clergy, and across a range of leadership positions.

 

Does the study explain how it handled the dichotomous measures (leader and board) when the NCS survey has a range?  For example, how would the board measure be calculated for the church since the NCS has 60 yes and 17 no.  Would the church have a value of 0 because there are more yeses than nos?  Or would the church have a value of 1 because there is a bunch of nos?

And does the study give a range for the sexism scale?  It would be nice to see where the church fits on that scale.  Does it also explain how the continuous scale deals with variable results?  Do they just average all of the answers from all of the congregations for a single denomination?

[Meadowchik]

1 hour ago, AtlanticMike said:

No, I understood what you were getting at. But I had a lot of fun typing my answer, I laughed the whole time😂. Maybe I had to much sugar this morning.

Well to be frank, unsolicited personal sex life details are like a slap in the face. Not funny and not appropriate at all here.

[AtlanticMike]

30 minutes ago, Meadowchik said:

Well to be frank, unsolicited personal sex life details are like a slap in the face. Not funny and not appropriate at all here.

Well, Frank would've probably handled that question way differently than I did, I agree with you. I let my wife slap me in the face sometimes, don't knock until you've tried it😉

[Robert F. Smith]

4 hours ago, Calm said:

But it was only 88 Saints and did not examine the variables that Bluebell pointed out.  That could mean putting Saints in the same category as other denominations without adjusting for lack of choice of callings and financial benefits could lead to major error of findings. 

The RLDS (CoC) Church has had female ordination for decades.  So have a number of other mainline Christian churches, and some forms of Judaism.  Wouldn't it be helpful to examine those religious organizations closely and to compare them to denominations which refuse ordination to women?  If there are differences, what sort of differences would be likely to show up?

Meantime, is it really necessary that all religious organizations exhibit the same views and implement the same rules?  What advantage is there in everything being the same everywhere and in all instances?  Why would that be desirable?

[Calm]

6 minutes ago, Robert F. Smith said:

The RLDS (CoC) Church has had female ordination for decades.  So have a number of other mainline Christian churches, and some forms of Judaism.  Wouldn't it be helpful to examine those religious organizations closely and to compare them to denominations which refuse ordination to women?  If there are differences, what sort of differences would be likely to show up?

Meantime, is it really necessary that all religious organizations exhibit the same views and implement the same rules?  What advantage is there in everything being the same everywhere and in all instances?  Why would that be desirable?

Are you using my comment as a springboard or responding to something specific in my post?  If the latter, could you identify it so I can more likely understand your point. 

[Robert F. Smith]

6 minutes ago, Calm said:

Are you using my comment as a springboard or responding to something specific in my post?  If the latter, could you identify it so I can more likely understand your point. 

You said "But it was only 88 Saints and did not examine the variables that Bluebell pointed out.  That could mean putting Saints in the same category as other denominations without adjusting for lack of choice of callings and financial benefits could lead to major error of findings."

All the bolded comments motivated my comments.  IOW, I am agreeing with you and asking for further thought on such surveys.  Most such surveys are far too narrow.

[Calm]

6 minutes ago, Robert F. Smith said:

You said "But it was only 88 Saints and did not examine the variables that Bluebell pointed out.  That could mean putting Saints in the same category as other denominations without adjusting for lack of choice of callings and financial benefits could lead to major error of findings."

All the bolded comments motivated my comments.  IOW, I am agreeing with you and asking for further thought on such surveys.  Most such surveys are far too narrow.

Thanks for the clarification.  I was pretty sure you were agreeing with me, but I wasn’t making enough connections. 

Edited April 22, 2021 by Calm

[sunstoned]

On 4/21/2021 at 10:30 PM, Robert F. Smith said:

The problem with that notion is that, those churches which have tried that are rapidly losing members and failing.  Get woke and go broke.

You do have a point.  It's kind of a rock and a hard place.

[sunstoned]

On 4/22/2021 at 7:59 AM, bluebell said:

Unless church survival is in supernatural hands.

I guess we will find out.  I believe within ten years women will hold the priesthood.

[Robert F. Smith]

1 hour ago, sunstoned said:

I guess we will find out.  I believe within ten years women will hold the priesthood.

Should @Scott Lloydstart his clock?  Those taking bets will be sure to win that such will not happen.  Same with Roman Catholicism.

[CV75]

12 hours ago, sunstoned said:

You do have a point.  It's kind of a rock and a hard place.

I look at studies like these in two ways:  1. What can I do to improve my well-being given that I choose to abide the system -- how can I better understand thee system so that I can maintain good health within it, given the alleged cause and effect? This is similar to "I may not be able to choose my circumstances but I can choose how I react or respond to them." 2. Diet studies (consuming a little alcohol, caffeine, etc. are good for you).

[Scott Lloyd]

15 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said:

Should @Scott Lloydstart his clock?  Those taking bets will be sure to win that such will not happen.  Same with Roman Catholicism.

Heh. Done. Clock is running. And this time, I’m bookmarking this thread so I can easily find it again. 

[sunstoned]

22 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said:

Should @Scott Lloydstart his clock?  Those taking bets will be sure to win that such will not happen.  Same with Roman Catholicism.

Ten years is all that is needed.  Let's have Scott start the count down. 

[Robert F. Smith]

3 hours ago, sunstoned said:

Ten years is all that is needed.  Let's have Scott start the count down. 

Yep.  Scott has set his clock.  I've been on this board just over ten years.  So another ten years should be a piece of cake. 

[webbles]

So I finally got around to averaging up all of the responses from the NCS.  Each of the tables has the denominations from the NCS study (the DENOM field) and their average response, where a 1 means yes and a 2 means no (I excluded the Don't Know responses).  So an average of 1.1 means that the majority of the responses were yes.  And average of 1 means that all of the responses were yes.

Here's whether they allow women to be the primary religious leader.  The church is tied for last place with an average of 2.

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Rank	Denomination	Responses	Leader
1	Nazarene	17	1
2	UU	25	1
3	Other Non-Christian	19	1
4	AME Zion	6	1
5	PCUSA	110	1
6	Free Methodist	6	1
7	Quaker	14	1
8	Unity Church	8	1
9	Jewish Reform (Union)	36	1
10	UCC	71	1.014084507
11	UMC	310	1.019354839
12	ELCA	145	1.020689655
13	Episcopal Church	92	1.02173913
14	AME	33	1.060606061
15	Disciples of Christ	15	1.066666667
16	Assemblies of God	83	1.072289157
17	Buddhist	13	1.076923077
18	Wesleyan	12	1.083333333
19	Pentecostal Holiness	18	1.111111111
20	RCA	8	1.125
21	Evangelical Covenant	7	1.142857143
22	Church of God (Cleveland, TN)	7	1.142857143
23	Jewish Conservative (United)	17	1.176470588
24	Church of God (Anderson, IN)	17	1.176470588
25	Vineyard	11	1.181818182
26	Foursquare Gospel	16	1.1875
27	Other Church/Churches of God	21	1.19047619
28	Other Methodist	8	1.25
29	Hindu	8	1.25
30	Other Lutheran	10	1.3
31	American Baptist Churches in the USA (Northern)	40	1.35
32	Seventh Day Adventist	34	1.352941176
33	Other Pentecostal	65	1.353846154
34	Other Christian	103	1.368932039
35	Jewish, other/unspecified	5	1.4
36	Brethren Churches	5	1.4
37	Other Presbyterian	9	1.444444444
38	Progressive National Baptist Convention	9	1.444444444
39	Christian Reformed	16	1.5
40	Baptist Churches Association of America	16	1.5
41	National Baptist	30	1.5
42	No Official Denomination	596	1.520134228
43	National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc	52	1.538461538
44	Freewill Baptist	18	1.555555556
45	Baptist General Conference (Converge)	28	1.642857143
46	Missionary Baptist	38	1.657894737
47	Other Baptist	80	1.6625
48	Full Gospel	3	1.666666667
49	COGIC	33	1.666666667
50	General Association of Regular Baptist Churches	10	1.7
51	National Baptist Convention of America	14	1.714285714
52	Calvary Chapel	10	1.8
53	Conservative Baptist Association of America	8	1.875
54	Christian Missionary Alliance	18	1.888888889
55	Muslim	19	1.894736842
56	Church/Churches of Christ	20	1.9
57	SBC	327	1.905198777
58	PCA	12	1.916666667
59	Catholic	978	1.927402863
60	Evangelical Free Church	23	1.956521739
61	Lutheran, Missouri Synod	77	1.961038961
62	Mennonite	5	2
63	Greek Orthodox	9	2
64	Eastern and Other Orthodox	12	2
65	Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod	9	2
66	Jehovah's Witnesses	27	2
67	Primitive Baptist	4	2
68	Mormon	78	2
69	Jewish Orthodox	6	2

Here's whether they allow women to be in the board.  The church comes in at 51 place with a value of 1.220779221.

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Rank	Denomination	Responses	Board
1	Jewish Orthodox	6	1
2	Jewish Reform (Union)	36	1
3	AME Zion	7	1
4	Jewish, other/unspecified	5	1
5	Baptist Churches Association of America	16	1
6	Vineyard	11	1
7	AME	32	1
8	Disciples of Christ	15	1
9	UU	25	1
10	ELCA	146	1
11	Episcopal Church	92	1
12	Evangelical Covenant	7	1
13	Nazarene	18	1
14	Free Methodist	6	1
15	Other Church/Churches of God	21	1
16	Hindu	8	1
17	Other Non-Christian	19	1
18	Wesleyan	12	1
19	Jewish Conservative (United)	17	1
20	UCC	71	1
21	Buddhist	13	1
22	Foursquare Gospel	16	1
23	Pentecostal Holiness	18	1
24	Unity Church	8	1
25	Quaker	14	1
26	Greek Orthodox	9	1
27	RCA	9	1
28	PCUSA	110	1.009090909
29	UMC	308	1.00974026
30	American Baptist Churches in the USA (Northern)	41	1.024390244
31	Seventh Day Adventist	35	1.028571429
32	National Baptist	34	1.029411765
33	Catholic	976	1.032786885
34	Assemblies of God	86	1.046511628
35	Church of God (Anderson, IN)	18	1.055555556
36	COGIC	33	1.060606061
37	National Baptist Convention of America	14	1.071428571
38	National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc	55	1.090909091
39	Freewill Baptist	18	1.111111111
40	Progressive National Baptist Convention	9	1.111111111
41	Lutheran, Missouri Synod	77	1.116883117
42	Other Pentecostal	66	1.121212121
43	Missionary Baptist	40	1.125
44	Other Christian	104	1.134615385
45	Other Baptist	87	1.16091954
46	Eastern and Other Orthodox	12	1.166666667
47	Calvary Chapel	10	1.2
48	Other Lutheran	10	1.2
49	Baptist General Conference (Converge)	29	1.206896552
50	Muslim	19	1.210526316
51	Mormon	77	1.220779221
52	No Official Denomination	604	1.228476821
53	Christian Reformed	17	1.235294118
54	SBC	330	1.245454545
55	Other Methodist	8	1.25
56	Church of God (Cleveland, TN)	7	1.285714286
57	Brethren Churches	6	1.333333333
58	Full Gospel	3	1.333333333
59	Christian Missionary Alliance	18	1.388888889
60	Mennonite	5	1.4
61	Other Presbyterian	10	1.4
62	Church/Churches of Christ	20	1.4
63	Evangelical Free Church	23	1.47826087
64	Primitive Baptist	4	1.5
65	Conservative Baptist Association of America	8	1.5
66	General Association of Regular Baptist Churches	10	1.5
67	Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod	9	1.777777778
68	PCA	12	1.916666667
69	Jehovah's Witnesses	27	1.925925926

Here's whether they allow women to preach in the main worship service.  The church comes in at 20 place with a value of 1.038461538.

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Rank	Denomination	Responses	Preach
1	Wesleyan	12	1
2	Vineyard	11	1
3	Nazarene	18	1
4	Church of God (Cleveland, TN)	7	1
5	PCUSA	110	1
6	Disciples of Christ	15	1
7	UU	25	1
8	Foursquare Gospel	16	1
9	Jewish Reform (Union)	36	1
10	Quaker	14	1
11	Free Methodist	6	1
12	Unity Church	8	1
13	Assemblies of God	86	1.011627907
14	UMC	310	1.012903226
15	ELCA	146	1.01369863
16	Seventh Day Adventist	36	1.027777778
17	UCC	71	1.028169014
18	AME	33	1.03030303
19	Episcopal Church	91	1.032967033
20	Mormon	78	1.038461538
21	Other Church/Churches of God	21	1.047619048
22	Other Non-Christian	19	1.052631579
23	Church of God (Anderson, IN)	18	1.055555556
24	Pentecostal Holiness	18	1.055555556
25	Jewish Conservative (United)	17	1.058823529
26	Buddhist	13	1.076923077
27	Other Pentecostal	66	1.090909091
28	Progressive National Baptist Convention	9	1.111111111
29	RCA	9	1.111111111
30	COGIC	33	1.121212121
31	AME Zion	7	1.142857143
32	Evangelical Covenant	7	1.142857143
33	American Baptist Churches in the USA (Northern)	40	1.175
34	National Baptist	33	1.181818182
35	Other Presbyterian	10	1.2
36	Brethren Churches	5	1.2
37	Jewish, other/unspecified	5	1.2
38	Other Methodist	8	1.25
39	Hindu	8	1.25
40	Primitive Baptist	4	1.25
41	Baptist Churches Association of America	16	1.25
42	Other Christian	103	1.252427184
43	Christian Missionary Alliance	18	1.277777778
44	National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc	55	1.290909091
45	Other Lutheran	10	1.3
46	Baptist General Conference (Converge)	29	1.310344828
47	Full Gospel	3	1.333333333
48	Christian Reformed	17	1.352941176
49	No Official Denomination	610	1.357377049
50	Other Baptist	86	1.360465116
51	Missionary Baptist	40	1.375
52	National Baptist Convention of America	14	1.428571429
53	Freewill Baptist	18	1.5
54	Conservative Baptist Association of America	8	1.625
55	Muslim	19	1.631578947
56	Evangelical Free Church	22	1.636363636
57	SBC	332	1.698795181
58	General Association of Regular Baptist Churches	10	1.7
59	Eastern and Other Orthodox	12	1.75
60	Mennonite	5	1.8
61	Church/Churches of Christ	20	1.8
62	Catholic	978	1.816973415
63	Jewish Orthodox	6	1.833333333
64	Greek Orthodox	9	1.888888889
65	Calvary Chapel	10	1.9
66	Lutheran, Missouri Synod	77	1.909090909
67	PCA	12	1.916666667
68	Jehovah's Witnesses	27	1.962962963
69	Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod	9	2

Here's whether they allow women to in co-ed classes.  The church comes in at 38 place with a value of 1.036363636.

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Rank	Denomination	Responses	Teach
1	Jewish, other/unspecified	2	1
2	Full Gospel	3	1
3	AME Zion	4	1
4	AME	23	1
5	Conservative Baptist Association of America	8	1
6	Wesleyan	6	1
7	Brethren Churches	2	1
8	Buddhist	6	1
9	Vineyard	8	1
10	UU	15	1
11	Christian Reformed	12	1
12	Disciples of Christ	10	1
13	Other Church/Churches of God	17	1
14	Episcopal Church	67	1
15	Unity Church	7	1
16	Other Methodist	5	1
17	Foursquare Gospel	12	1
18	Other Non-Christian	10	1
19	Greek Orthodox	6	1
20	PCUSA	75	1
21	Jewish Conservative (United)	12	1
22	Pentecostal Holiness	11	1
23	Church of God (Cleveland, TN)	5	1
24	Primitive Baptist	3	1
25	Evangelical Covenant	3	1
26	Progressive National Baptist Convention	8	1
27	Hindu	5	1
28	Quaker	10	1
29	Eastern and Other Orthodox	6	1
30	RCA	5	1
31	Jewish Reform (Union)	21	1
32	Seventh Day Adventist	19	1
33	Free Methodist	5	1
34	UCC	44	1
35	ELCA	99	1.01010101
36	Catholic	707	1.012729844
37	UMC	214	1.018691589
38	Mormon	55	1.036363636
39	American Baptist Churches in the USA (Northern)	25	1.04
40	COGIC	21	1.047619048
41	Other Pentecostal	46	1.065217391
42	Christian Missionary Alliance	15	1.066666667
43	Missionary Baptist	25	1.08
44	Church of God (Anderson, IN)	12	1.083333333
45	Nazarene	12	1.083333333
46	Assemblies of God	53	1.094339623
47	Baptist General Conference (Converge)	20	1.1
48	National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc	38	1.105263158
49	National Baptist	28	1.107142857
50	Other Christian	74	1.108108108
51	Evangelical Free Church	14	1.142857143
52	Other Baptist	60	1.183333333
53	Lutheran, Missouri Synod	49	1.183673469
54	Other Presbyterian	5	1.2
55	SBC	237	1.202531646
56	Other Lutheran	9	1.222222222
57	Jewish Orthodox	4	1.25
58	Baptist Churches Association of America	11	1.272727273
59	Freewill Baptist	14	1.285714286
60	No Official Denomination	413	1.290556901
61	Muslim	9	1.333333333
62	Church/Churches of Christ	15	1.333333333
63	General Association of Regular Baptist Churches	7	1.428571429
64	Mennonite	4	1.5
65	National Baptist Convention of America	9	1.555555556
66	Calvary Chapel	7	1.571428571
67	PCA	7	1.571428571
68	Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod	7	1.714285714
69	Jehovah's Witnesses	18	1.777777778

And here's the "Sexism Scale" that the report mentioned.  Each yes is given a value of 0 and each no is given a value of 1.  Then it sums up the 4 responses of the questions above and averages them for the denomination.  The church comes in at 44 place with a value of 1.333333333.

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Rank	Denomination	Responses	Sexism Scale
1	Jewish Reform (Union)	42	0
2	Wesleyan	144	0
3	AME Zion	200	0
4	UU	315	0
5	Buddhist	36	0
6	Brethren Churches	88	0
7	Disciples of Christ	420	0
8	Unity Church	483	0
9	UCC	1188	0
10	Evangelical Covenant	168	0
11	Other Non-Christian	80	0
12	RCA	72	0
13	Quaker	460	0
14	Free Methodist	125	0
15	PCUSA	1125	0.013333333
16	ELCA	1078	0.040816327
17	UMC	4708	0.074766355
18	Episcopal Church	660	0.075757576
19	Nazarene	276	0.083333333
20	Church of God (Anderson, IN)	671	0.090909091
21	AME	1127	0.130434783
22	Other Church/Churches of God	1054	0.176470588
23	Pentecostal Holiness	693	0.181818182
24	Vineyard	416	0.25
25	Foursquare Gospel	708	0.25
26	Assemblies of God	2958	0.254901961
27	Jewish Conservative (United)	36	0.333333333
28	Seventh Day Adventist	1292	0.368421053
29	Hindu	25	0.4
30	Jewish, other/unspecified	8	0.5
31	Church of God (Cleveland, TN)	300	0.6
32	Other Methodist	130	0.6
33	Progressive National Baptist Convention	296	0.625
34	American Baptist Churches in the USA (Northern)	720	0.75
35	Other Pentecostal	2925	0.755555556
36	Christian Reformed	209	0.818181818
37	Other Christian	4970	0.901408451
38	National Baptist	744	0.958333333
39	COGIC	1071	1
40	Other Lutheran	126	1.111111111
41	National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc	1015	1.171428571
42	Baptist General Conference (Converge)	608	1.315789474
43	Full Gospel	192	1.333333333
44	Mormon	3564	1.333333333
45	Baptist Churches Association of America	363	1.363636364
46	Other Presbyterian	85	1.4
47	Other Baptist	2296	1.410714286
48	Missionary Baptist	782	1.434782609
49	No Official Denomination	39196	1.505050505
50	Christian Missionary Alliance	810	1.6
51	Freewill Baptist	490	1.642857143
52	Catholic	6318	1.789173789
53	Greek Orthodox	282	1.833333333
54	National Baptist Convention of America	252	1.857142857
55	Conservative Baptist Association of America	312	2
56	Jewish Orthodox	4	2
57	Primitive Baptist	114	2
58	Eastern and Other Orthodox	288	2
59	SBC	6524	2.068669528
60	General Association of Regular Baptist Churches	280	2.142857143
61	Lutheran, Missouri Synod	588	2.183673469
62	Evangelical Free Church	770	2.285714286
63	Calvary Chapel	371	2.428571429
64	Mennonite	180	2.5
65	Church/Churches of Christ	645	2.533333333
66	Muslim	63	2.555555556
67	Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod	91	3.571428571
68	PCA	112	3.571428571
69	Jehovah's Witnesses	1206	3.666666667

Based off of those results, I'm not sure if the study would classify the church as sexist or not.  In some fields (leader), it is really bad but all the other fields are pretty good.

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2 hours ago, webbles said:

So I finally got around to averaging up all of the responses from the NCS.  Each of the tables has the denominations from the NCS study (the DENOM field) and their average response, where a 1 means yes and a 2 means no (I excluded the Don't Know responses).  So an average of 1.1 means that the majority of the responses were yes.  And average of 1 means that all of the responses were yes.

Here's whether they allow women to be the primary religious leader.  The church is tied for last place with an average of 2.

Here's whether they allow women to be in the board.  The church comes in at 51 place with a value of 1.220779221.

Here's whether they allow women to preach in the main worship service.  The church comes in at 20 place with a value of 1.038461538.

Here's whether they allow women to in co-ed classes.  The church comes in at 38 place with a value of 1.036363636.

And here's the "Sexism Scale" that the report mentioned.  Each yes is given a value of 0 and each no is given a value of 1.  Then it sums up the 4 responses of the questions above and averages them for the denomination.  The church comes in at 44 place with a value of 1.333333333.

Based off of those results, I'm not sure if the study would classify the church as sexist or not.  In some fields (leader), it is really bad but all the other fields are pretty good.

Wow, thanks for all the research on this! 

[webbles]

On 4/22/2021 at 10:00 AM, Meadowchik said:

It would be interesting to see an analysis that isolated the LDS participants and compared their health results to non-LDS participants. 

Does the study have details on how it scores the health results?  I know it uses the "General Social Survey" but I'm wondering what data points it uses and how it ranks them.

[webbles]

Looks like the study is now available to the public.  This link worked for me https://www.asanet.org/sites/default/files/attach/journals/apr21asrfeature.pdf

I'm going to see if I can rank the denominations using the health statistics that the study used.