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  1. Well, I would never say I don't like you, but I'm sure there's a lot of people in your life you don't like. I've read through hundreds if not thousands of old threads on this forum and it's always the same handful of women who start attacking people if they don't agree or say something they deem out of line. I know Scott was kidding a couple months ago when he said, uh oh, the jackels are after me again, but he's correct, that's what it feels like. I'm sorry to say it but when you girls get together you can be down right cruel. This poster is banned. There is too much to clean up so let's get back on topic.
  2. I'm confident you don't understand how you come across to anyone with half a brain. When I pray tonight I'm thanking God for letting me live with women who think the exact opposite as you come across
  3. From the second or third day I joined this forum I've been called all kinds names and been insulted and I think it's always been by a handful of women who act like they own this board. You guys are mean. I've tried to be upbeat, cheerful, compliment people and just be an all around good person. But a man says one wrong sentence on here there is a group of women who won't let go until there's no more meat on the bone. One wrong sentence will derail a thread and send people off in a tizzy because you don't agree. It's ridiculous!!
  4. Well, I decided months ago if you, raingirl or Julianne were in my ward, I would sell my house and move to a different stake because I wouldn't want my daughter's to be in any class you might teach in young women's. I don't believe in child abuse.
  5. You want me to prove women can float on clouds? Well I guess if you supply the cloud I'll see if you could float on it. Might work, might not, who knows, I'm not a scientist, just a dumb roofer.
  6. Aaaahh shucks morning star! I teed that question up perfectly for you. I was hoping you would say, well Atlanticmike, if you really want to know why don't you look in the mirror dumb xss! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ That would of been great! Oh well😁 I'll keep tryin.
  7. Thank you morning star!!! That's all I wanted to hear. I was getting tired of the man bashing on this thread. Young men are less likely to report any type of sexual abuse so we really don't know what percentage of women actually sexually assault young men and even young women. Do men do modt of the assaults, of course, I'm not denying that. But this pretending that women are innocent and are nothing but sweat angels floating on clouds while men are brute beast just dying to get into the women's locker room is ridiculous. Just about every man I know would go out of their way to protect any innocent child or women.
  8. πŸ‘ Scouts was a positive influence in my life also. Did you get your eagle?
  9. Are you suggesting that it might of been a good idea for the church to of parted ways with the BSA because of sexual abuse? If so, then that kinda opens up the discussion about what we do with the sexual abuse inside other organizations like religions, including ours.
  10. Dang , I was just telling calm about my aunt who refused to go in public bathrooms in fear of a black women had sat on the toilet seat. I can remember being in at a rest stop in the mountains of Virginia, I was probably 10 or so, and my aunt almost peed her pants because she wouldn't go in the bathroom. They made us kids go get drinks out if the vending machine so they could pull the van around back past the semi trucks so my aunt could squat down an pee on the ground. I'll never forget that day, it's seared into my brain. I don't know why some people are transgender. I personally feel like some people are possibly born with a chemica imbalance, possibly something happened in the womb. I also feel like some trans people are possibly dealing with certain trauma that happened to them and identifying as a different gender than what they see in the mirror because somehow they think it will relieve pain they can't figure out how get rid of. But that's all speculation on my part. One thing I do know though is the pain and torment they live with daily because of feeling confused is probably more than I could bear. There's a lot of emotion being discussed on this subject, number one being fear of the unknown. Fear is an important emotion, it's helped keep us humans around for a long time on this floating rock. Fear is used by other people to control what we think in every part of our lives. Our parents use fear to raise us, some religions use fear to control us, politicians use fear to gain votes. Our brains are wired to make sure we stay alive at all cost, that's why change comes slowly for us humans. What we've been discussing for the past day and a half when it comes to the transgender issue has more to do with us heterosexuals understanding someone who is transgender isn't a threat to us or our loved ones, more than it has to do with figuring out why someone is trans. I've said this before but I'm going to say it again. I knew my daughter was gay before she did, I accepted it before she did. Being a very conservative Mormon guy I realized what was in store for my daughter years before she ever told my wife and I she was gay. So I started preparing her for the day she wanted to tell us she is attracted to women. But one thing I've never told you about is how I had to prepare myself. I knew if I wanted to be there for my daughter for the rest of my life I had to come to grips with the fact that if my daughter was actually gay, I basically had two choices, accept her for who she is or risk losing a very important relationship because of a circumstance I can't control. So I chose to accept her. It's the best decision I have ever made in my life so far. The hardest part though was changing my long held perception of what a gay person really was. Early in my life they were pure sin, agents of the devil. I was taught this early on. I had to come to grips with what was actually real, and what I was actually letting fear tell me what I percieved as "real". I view the transgender issue the same way. Most of what we hear from both sides of the isle is total bullxxxx when it comes to the transgender issue. The issue is a political pawn and they're using it to scare and manipulate people on both sides. The actual people who suffer the most are the transgender individuals themselves. Personally, I think it's best to understand that we don't understand.
  11. I'm trying to follow your logic about a locker room being a safe space for women. If a locker room is a safe space, why shouldn't a college campus be? It seems to me if you had male only and female only colleges, on campus sexual assaults should go way down. True?
  12. Serious question calm, because I'm trying to understand where you're coming from. So I just read a bunch of articles on how 20 to 30% of college females have been a victim of some kind of sexual assault. Do you think it would be a good idea to have male only and female only colleges?
  13. I didn't see him accuse anyone of racism. In my opinion he was pointing out that when societal norms are being tested, even changed, there's a lot of fear involved, just like back in the 50s and 60s when it came to blacks moving into white neighborhoods. I had an aunt that passed away a couple years ago at the age of 93. She wouldn't use a public bathroom unless she absolutely had to because she feared a black woman might of sat on the toilet seat. Like I said in another post, gay men were portrayed as unhealthy to society for the longest time, I would hope no one on here still believes that. And now trans women are being portrayed as unsafe to be around on a religious gorum that stands for loving all of God's children. Im assuming what he was trying to convey was the "fear factor" of a new norm, not trying to paint anyone as racist. But I think you already understand that.
  14. The church leaving the BSA was probably the final deathblow to scouts. I don't see it lasting much longer. Also, the interest in scouting just wasn't there anymore, I spent a large portion of my time telling boys to turn off their stupid phone. I could be wrong, but it also seemed like in the last 10 or so years, the attention span of the boys I taught wasn't long enough to listen for more than 5 minutes. Maybe that's me just becoming an old fogey, who knows.
  15. In the 1950s gay men were often depicted by government and media as child molesters. In 1974 the Florida legislature warned people about the supposed danger of gay men in public bathrooms and how gay men posed a threat to health and mental well being to a large portion of the population. Don't even get me started on the fear some white people had back about using the same bathroom as a black person. A large percentage of whites thought black people were unclean and dangerous. I'm not scared of people in the LGBT community, how bout you?
  16. My daughter is a lesbian and she's attracted to females, should she be allowed to shower with other women? All kinds of articles online about women raping women. Marie Claire magazine plus many other sources talks about women raping women. You should check out those articles as well.
  17. So you read an article and now your possibly convinced that the T in lgbtq are a bunch of sexually predators? Or possibly faking being trans ? If so, does that mean the other letters represented, L Lesbian, G Gay, B Bisexual and Q Queer, should I question if they're also possibly faking ?
  18. So transgender people are dangerous? Do you mean like back in the 60s and 70s when white women felt unsafe with black families moving into "their" neighborhoods? PS. Came back to add this because I just read a new thread Scott started about the boy scouts. How do you feel about the Boy Scouts letting girls join a all male organization? Is that a safe situation? Let's say it's a troop of 15 males and 1 female, how safe is that? That's what I don't understand about this argument. You're arguing females have the right to fell "safe" meaning biological males are dangerous, but at the same time femenist are trying to break down any organization that is male only traditionally, even for young boys. Using your logic, would college campuses be safer if we separated the sexes again in the name of safety? We could do an experiment, let's make University of Virginia all female and Virginia Tech all male. If rape and harassment claims go down then maybe we should try it throughout the USA, for safety.
  19. Lawsuits and political correctness killed the Boy Scouts. I get extremely upset everytime I think about it tell ya truth.
  20. Spotify, rock out to your favorite music. By the way, that's a long trip for work man, dang!
  21. Well, the conversation has been about what body parts makes some people uncomfortable in a locker room. So, if a transgender woman who has had surgery to look more like a woman uses a women's locker room, does that make you feel more comfortable in their presence?
  22. I've only met a few transgender people in my life. Let me tell you a funny story. When I go surfing in the morning there's a spot where a group of 1 to 20 surfers will be in the water at a time. I'm sitting on my board and start talking to this dude next to me, he's about my age, and we hit it off, he's a cool dude, tells me about his wife and how she will come to the beach in the summer and watch him surf and let the kids play. We had a great conversation and when we walked to our vehicles I got dressed and walked over to his car, he was about 4 cars away, and I turn to talk to him and he's putting on women's clothes. It took about 3 or 4 seconds I guess to register in my brain what was actually going on in that moment, I could tell he was a laid back person, so in my weird sense of humor I said, xxck man, why are you borrowing your wife's clothes, is the washer broken😁. Well, immediately she started laughing and appreciated that I could make an awkward situation light-hearted and fun. She has no desire for any kind of surgery and lives as a woman. Through that friendship I've met someone who she's close to who has a very tough time mentally with being transgender and got a breast augmentation and has probably had more surgeries, I'm not sure though, haven't seen her in a while. I have a question if you don't mind answering. Do you see a transgender female who hasn't had surgery differently than a transgender female who has? Please don't answer if it makes you uncomfortable.
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