Popular Post JLHPROF Posted June 19, 2018 Popular Post Posted June 19, 2018 Believing Christ remains one of the best treatises on the atonement I've ever read. It was instrumental in my finally understanding how the atonement works in our lives. Thank you to Brother Robinson. http://www.bergmortuary.com/obituaries/Stephen-Robinson-5/#!/Obituaryhttps://www.heraldextra.com/lifestyles/announcements/obituaries/death-notices/article_3f1ec871-38c3-5a92-9368-4332f844c8e5.html 7
Kenngo1969 Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 Ditto, that. Sorry to hear of Brother Robinson's passing. Condolences to family, friends, and colleagues. Between the recent passings of Brothers Robinson and Tvedtnes, respectively, there is quite a "faculty" being built up on the other side. 2
Popular Post cinepro Posted June 19, 2018 Popular Post Posted June 19, 2018 For those who aren't familiar, here is the Ensign article that summarizes much of his book. Believing Christ 5
jkwilliams Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 I loved his first book. Helped me put the burden on Christ rather than myself. 71 is too young. 2
bluebell Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 His book Believing Christ is of the best gospel books ever written. Condolences to his family.
Robert F. Smith Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Though I did not know him, I do know that he was highly regarded among non-Mormon scholars, and was formerly the chairman of the dept of religion at Lycoming College in Pennsylvania. He was also a major contributor to David Noel Freedman's 6-volume Anchor Bible Dictionary, and a translator for James Charlesworth's 2-volume Old Testament Pseudepigrapha. Sorry to see him go so early. Edited June 19, 2018 by Robert F. Smith
Guest Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 8 hours ago, JLHPROF said: Believing Christ remains one of the best treatises on the atonement I've ever read. It was instrumental in my finally understanding how the atonement works in our lives. Thank you to Brother Robinson. http://www.bergmortuary.com/obituaries/Stephen-Robinson-5/#!/Obituaryhttps://www.heraldextra.com/lifestyles/announcements/obituaries/death-notices/article_3f1ec871-38c3-5a92-9368-4332f844c8e5.html I love his writings.
Guest Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 8 hours ago, jkwilliams said: I loved his first book. Helped me put the burden on Christ rather than myself. 71 is too young. Why too young.
Scott Lloyd Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said: Ditto, that. Sorry to hear of Brother Robinson's passing. Condolences to family, friends, and colleagues. Between the recent passings of Brothers Robinson and Tvedtnes, respectively, there is quite a "faculty" being built up on the other side. Meanwhile, we have lost a couple of able apologists, though I don't think either was very active in recent years. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 I had a quotation from Stephen E. Robinson as part of my sig line for a while. It was this: Quote I prefer my anti-Mormons straight up. 3
Kenngo1969 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scott Lloyd said: Meanwhile, we have lost a couple of able apologists, though I don't think either was very active in recent years. The best one can hope for is to leave an honorable legacy. I wasn't well acquainted with either of those gentlemen except through their published works (more so with Brother Robinson), but to the extent that such works provide a useful barometer in that regard, surely, each has, indeed, left such a legacy. (And I do like the quote from Brother Robinson.) Edited June 20, 2018 by Kenngo1969 1
Avatar4321 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 One of my old professors. Sorry to hear this though to be honest I'm surprised he made it this long. He wasn't a spring chicken when I took his class 20 years ago
Kenngo1969 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Here's the thread from By Common Consent on Brother Robinson's passing: https://bycommonconsent.com/2018/06/19/in-memoriam-stephen-e-robinson-1947-2018/
Calm Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Avatar4321 said: One of my old professors. Sorry to hear this though to be honest I'm surprised he made it this long. He wasn't a spring chicken when I took his class 20 years ago 71 is not that old. And better not be since I have only 11 years to go. Edited June 20, 2018 by Calm 2
Bernard Gui Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Calm said: 71 is not that old. And better not be since I have only 11 years to go. Aarrggghhh. I’m 71. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, Bernard Gui said: Aarrggghhh. I’m 71. You’re old enough to be my ... older brother. Edited June 20, 2018 by Scott Lloyd 2
Scott Lloyd Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Bernard Gui said: Aarrggghhh. I’m 71. Most of the pop singers I liked when I was growing up are in their 70s now. I don’t look at it as being old anymore. Edited June 20, 2018 by Scott Lloyd
mnn727 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Calm said: 71 is not that old. And better not be since I have only 11 years to go. Yeah, I agree, I only have 9 to go myself. Believing Christ is probably my favorite LDS book. I've retold the Parable of the Bicycle many times in various classes, and given away a number of the book. 1
Gray Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Robinson's Believing Christ was badly needed breath of fresh theological air. RIP.
Kenngo1969 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 11 hours ago, Bernard Gui said: Aarrggghhh. I’m 71. No se preocupe, Hermano muy mio. Some people are 71 going on 100, and some people are 71 going on 40. There's such a thing as a "young 71" and an "old 71." I strongly suspect that, in both cases, you belong in the latter category. My dad just turned 81. He has a mischievous, fun-loving streak about him (too much so, sometimes! ). Most people don't believe him when he gives him the actual number. Besides, no matter how old we are, we're mere infants (or perhaps toddlers) in Eternal terms. And no matter how old we might be, we'll all be Forever Young after the resurrection, anyway. "Forever Young" as performed by original performers Alphaville, was The Senior Class theme of the Tooele High School Class of 1988, and was covered at graduation by Roger Nix, Rick Coil, and Brendan Thorpe (wherever you are, warm regards from a fellow classmate, gentlemen). Rod Stewart's tune of the same name, which, honestly, I prefer. It's a lot less fatalistic and much more optimistic, with some terrific life advice. (And at the time the video was made, Rod Stewart had the cutest little redhead you'll ever see in your life! ) 2
cacheman Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Kenngo1969 said: No se preocupe, Hermano muy mio. Some people are 71 going on 100, and some people are 71 going on 40. There's such a thing as a "young 71" and an "old 71." I strongly suspect that, in both cases, you belong in the latter category. My dad just turned 81. He has a mischievous, fun-loving streak about him (too much so, sometimes! ). Most people don't believe him when he gives him the actual number. Besides, no matter how old we are, we're mere infants (or perhaps toddlers) in Eternal terms. And no matter how old we might be, we'll all be Forever Young after the resurrection, anyway. "Forever Young" as performed by original performers Alphaville, was The Senior Class theme of the Tooele High School Class of 1988, and was covered at graduation by Roger Nix, Rick Coil, and Brendan Thorpe (wherever you are, warm regards from a fellow classmate, gentlemen). Rod Stewart's tune of the same name, which, honestly, I prefer. It's a lot less fatalistic and much more optimistic, with some terrific life advice. (And at the time the video was made, Rod Stewart had the cutest little redhead you'll ever see in your life! ) I prefer Stewart's song too. ...probably because it reminds me of Bob Dylan's original 'Forever Young' song. I'm not sure how to post videos, but here are the lyrics: May God bless and keep you alwaysMay your wishes all come trueMay you always do for othersAnd let others do for you May you build a ladder to the starsAnd climb on every rungMay you stayForever young Forever youngForever youngMay you stayForever young May you grow up to be righteousMay you grow up to be trueMay you always know the truthAnd see the lights surrounding you May you always be courageousStand upright and be strongAnd may you stayForever young Forever youngForever youngMay you stayForever young May your hands always be busyMay your feet always be swiftMay you have a strong foundationWhen the winds of changes shift May your heart always be joyfulMay your song always be sungAnd may you stayForever young Forever youngForever youngMay you stayForever young This was the song we chose for the mother-son dance at our son's wedding. FYI - if you graduated in 88, then I'll be forever young as you! 😎 1
Popular Post Stormin' Mormon Posted June 20, 2018 Popular Post Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) I read "Believing Christ" as a freshman at BYU more than 20 years ago. Looking back on that year now, I'm convinced that I was having some serious emotional health problems, and these issues were not helped by the fact that I was unfairly heaping the guilt of a failed perfectionism onto my own shoulders. Dr. Robinson's book came to me at a time in my life when an understanding of grace was both sorely lacking and sorely needed. After my mission, I took a couple of religion classes from him, but being the shrinking violet I was, I never interacted with him one-on-one, nor told him how much his books helped me through a difficult time. I still find myself repeating his thoughts and teaching his lessons in my seminary and Sunday school classes. I don't think there's been another LDS scholar who has influenced my spiritual life to same degree that Dr. Robinson did. A few amusing anecdotes from the classes I took with him have stuck with me through the years: On the first day of class, Dr. Robinson tried to impress upon us how different his religion classes were from those of his colleagues who had come to BYU via CES. "Other classs will have you mapping out the journeys of Paul." And here he threw his hands into the air in a frustrated gesture, inadvertently throwing his piece of chalk across the room, "Who the hell cares?" Later that semester, he took some time off for surgery. He described it to us as "surgery for fat people who don't want to die." Edited June 20, 2018 by Stormin' Mormon 6
Bernard Gui Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 14 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: Most of the pop singers I liked when I was growing up are in their 70s now. I don’t look at it as being old anymore. When they were just fresh-faced kids, they told us not to trust anyone over 30. OK.
Bernard Gui Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Gray said: Robinson's Believing Christ was badly needed breath of fresh theological air. RIP. A good book no doubt, but as opposed to Jesus the Christ, anything by BH Roberts, Truman Madsen, or Hugh Nibley, The Articles of Faith and Marvelous Work and a Wonder, the published collected talks of so many great General Authorities, The Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, The New Testament, etc., etc., etc.? You know, all those stale-air oldy-moldies. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Bernard Gui said: When they were just fresh-faced kids, they told us not to trust anyone over 30. OK. It was the radical leftists and the hippies who were saying that. But yeah, I clearly remember that stupid cant. 1
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