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  1. Again, you clearly misread what Nelson said. He explicitly says there are (at least) two types of people who struggle with faith: 1. Lazy learners 2. Lax disciples It's right there in the quote that you're posting. Why do you think people are hyper fixated on the "lazy learner" category, and totally ignoring the "lax disciple" category? To be clear, I don't necessarily agree with this or anything else Nelson says. I'm just mystified by the energy with which some exMos are promoting a false narrative about what he actually said. I mean, you're actually posting the quote (whi
  2. Since Nelson didn't say that everyone who leaves the Church is a "lazy learner", the existence of energetic-learners such as yourself does not falsify his statement. But since you misread his statement and assumed it applied to you (or all exMos), which is something a lazy-learner would do, who knows?
  3. Sad to hear. He will live on through his books for a long time to come.
  4. If the intent of the law is to expose students to other religion-based theories, then the mandate should be to have a module for some period (one class? one week?) that covers all the religious and philosophical theories about how the earth may have come to be. So you would have a science teacher talking about Biblical creationism, Native American myths, eastern philosophy etc. At that point, how is that appropriate for a science class, and how would a science teacher even be qualified to teach these different philosophies? And why would this be limited to the origin of the Earth? Should
  5. When the history of the Covid pandemic is written, this isn't going to be on the list of our finest moments. A lot has gone right in the development, testing, approval and distribution of the vaccines, but there have been some blunders along the way.
  6. Who are the fully vaccinated people who have died? Keep in mind "fully vaccinated" means one J&J or two Moderna/Pfizer, with enough time for the vaccine to take effect. Who was "fully vaccinated" and then contracted Covid and died from it?
  7. As explained in the article, the vaccines are not 100% effective against cases. People will still get infected and test positive. This has been known all along. So it would be expected for some people who have been fully vaccinated to test positive. And certainly, even vaccinated people need to exercise caution around high-risk people who haven't been vaccinated. So they're not "breakthrough" cases as if the virus has become powerful enough to somehow force its way past the vaccines. It's simply confirming what we knew all along. I would even expect a few vaccinated people to end up in t
  8. Well, not to be nit-picky, but it's his dad that owns the pest control business.
  9. Yes, the LA Temple is our local Temple, and I suspect my wife would chain herself to the doors if they messed with those murals.
  10. Wow. Perhaps it was inevitable, but I can't help but think that these changes to Church traditions (Boy Scouts, pageants, pioneer Temples) will have unforeseen impacts to the Church culture.
  11. Does everyone agree that there is simply no possible way for Anthon (or any other living person) to actually verify a translation of Reformed Egyptian -> English? I mean, Mormon himself said that "none other people" back then could read it, so how would it be possible for Anthon to figure it out? So any story that claims Anthon claimed he could verify the translation is either incorrect, or Anthon was lying or mistaken?
  12. Lucy Smith's account also says that no translation had been done at the time Martin went to New York (spelling and grammar cleaned up):
  13. Additionally, here is the version of the story from Joseph's 1832 diary (spelling and grammar cleaned up). According to this entry, Martin didn't have a translation to show, just some characters. The translating didn't start until he got back.
  14. And my favorite blog on the subject, from a non-member who investigates unknown texts: https://ciphermysteries.com/2009/06/01/the-anthon-transcript
  15. Davis's response sounds amazingly similar to something I said dozens of times on my mission. "Don't believe what someone else wrote about the book. You need to read it yourself to know if it's true!"
  16. I think it's easy to underestimate the impact of the pandemic on the Church. I mean, who hasn't looked around the Church at at least one point in their lives and noted the lasting impact of the 1918 pandemic? (Other than this one, of course...) That being said, I think the church was in the biggest pickle with missionary work. The missionary program is a massive logistics machine, and it couldn't just be shut down on a dime and then reopened. Think of the countless leases, utility bills, auto expenses etc. that would continue. It would be a massive drain on the Church's balance sheet. And
  17. You're really missing out. The Babylon Bee is my favorite satirical site. It's satire from a Christian/Conservative viewpoint, but they poke fun at all the different christian sects (including LDS; you might want to avoid those), as well as the more annoying aspects of Conservatism. https://babylonbee.com/
  18. But that still leaves the translation problem. If the translation is tied that closely to the actual text (the word for "horse" or "elephant" must be translated as "horse" or "elephant", even if it's referring to a different animal), then how is it possible to have 19th century artifacts or influences in the translation? Ultimately, you have two different translation theories: the "loose" translation and the "tight" translation, and defenders must insist that both were used, with Joseph ping-ponging back and forth between a tight translation and a loose translation. Such an elastic theory m
  19. Wow. The world is a crazier place than I imagined.
  20. What's your definition of "hardly absorbed"? Because there appear to be several studies that show supplements are more-than-hardly absorbed, depending on the delivery method. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6631968/ Also...
  21. Good news. You're both right.
  22. That analogy only works for translations being done where the translator is fluent in both languages. In the case of the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith didn't actually read Reformed Egyptian. And the translation process was precise enough to convey words that Joseph Smith didn't know, so it wasn't limited to words Joseph Smith had in his vocabulary. I mean, once you have a process that can convey words like "Coriantumr", "Zemnarihah" and "Riplakish" (not to mention "cumom" and "curelom"), it's kind of hard to say that the translation process couldn't convey words like "tapir" or "chinchill
  23. Except for Vitamin D. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-77093-z
  24. My ward in California is doing nothing. The stake is doing a drive-through Primary activity with different stations set up in a church parking lot.
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