Buckeye Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Breaking news ... http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/us/boy-scouts-will-allow-girls-to-join/index.html Interestingly, the article says the decision was unanimous by the BSA board. I'm not sure how many seats the church has on the board, but it has at least one. Link to comment
california boy Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Buckeye said: Breaking news ... http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/us/boy-scouts-will-allow-girls-to-join/index.html Interestingly, the article says the decision was unanimous by the BSA board. I'm not sure how many seats the church has on the board, but it has at least one. Starting to sound more and more like Mutual. Maybe the church left a little too soon. 2 Link to comment
Duncan Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 My sister is a cub leader, she's a girl! Link to comment
bluebell Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I am counting down the days until the church leaves scouts all together. 4 Link to comment
Popular Post Buckeye Posted October 11, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, bluebell said: I am counting down the days until the church leaves scouts all together. I think Scott has an app for that! 7 Link to comment
Amulek Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, bluebell said: I am counting down the days until the church leaves scouts all together. Same here. When it comes to this particular activity arm of the priesthood, please feel free to sign me up to play the role of Ammon. 2 Link to comment
stemelbow Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Good move on their part. Link to comment
bluebell Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I'm also wondering how the Girl Scouts are handling the announcement. I'm wondering if they feel like the BSA is usurping some of their territory. Link to comment
Scott Lloyd Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Perhaps a survival move to bring in more registrations, preparing for the time when the Church pulls out altogether as a chartering organization. That's bound to have a potentially devastating impact. Link to comment
cinepro Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, Duncan said: My sister is a cub leader, she's a girl! Women have always been allowed to be leaders in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. 2 Link to comment
thesometimesaint Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 The boys have always been scouting the girls, and the girls have always been scouting the boys. Unfortunately such familiarity(scouting) just breeds. 1 Link to comment
JAHS Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hmm. I guess I will have to stop putting news item in the News section where they belong. 1 Link to comment
Calm Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, bluebell said: I am counting down the days until the church leaves scouts all together. We just got a Friends of Scouts campaign email and I was shocked I felt a surge of anger about it, it felt like the ward was asking people to throw their money away. I lost my loyalty to the program 20 some years ago as an Akela when I had to shell out ridiculous money for badges and getting anything extra as rewards or to help the boys bond with the program was completely out of my or my ward's reach. Training costs were ridiculous as well, so I never did more than the basics...and I needed it big time. (I had volunteered when they couldn't find a man for the calling...12 boys, including two ADD and a no experience leader who was much better with junior Primary). My son had a wonderful time, but besides his first den mother (we were in the States at that time) and first scout leader, the rest could have cared less about the ceremonial stuff and just put their effort into the doing aspect (ocean kayaking, mountain climbing, winter camps). 2 Link to comment
ElPatron Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, bluebell said: I'm also wondering how the Girl Scouts are handling the announcement. I'm wondering if they feel like the BSA is usurping some of their territory. Girl Scouts reaction is contained in this article. Half way through..... https://www.dallasnews.com/news/boy-scouts/2017/10/11/girls-will-allowed-join-cub-scouts-starting-2018-boy-scouts-2019 Link to comment
bluebell Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 35 minutes ago, Calm said: We just got a Friends of Scouts campaign email and I was shocked I felt a surge of anger about it, it felt like the ward was asking people to throw their money away. I lost my loyalty to the program 20 some years ago as an Akela when I had to shell out ridiculous money for badges and getting anything extra as rewards or to help the boys bond with the program was completely out of my or my ward's reach. Training costs were ridiculous as well, so I never did more than the basics...and I needed it big time. (I had volunteered when they couldn't find a man for the calling...12 boys, including two ADD and a no experience leader who was much better with junior Primary). My son had a wonderful time, but besides his first den mother (we were in the States at that time) and first scout leader, the rest could have cared less about the ceremonial stuff and just put their effort into the doing aspect (ocean kayaking, mountain climbing, winter camps). And most members have no idea that none of the money donated to FoS goes to the ward. My husband refuses to donate to FoS anymore. He'll donate to help boys in the ward with scout costs if needed, but not to the organization itself. Link to comment
bluebell Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 27 minutes ago, ElPatron said: Girl Scouts reaction is contained in this article. Half way through..... https://www.dallasnews.com/news/boy-scouts/2017/10/11/girls-will-allowed-join-cub-scouts-starting-2018-boy-scouts-2019 It won't let me read it without subscribing and i'm being lazy. What did it say? Link to comment
bluebell Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 41 minutes ago, Calm said: We just got a Friends of Scouts campaign email and I was shocked I felt a surge of anger about it, it felt like the ward was asking people to throw their money away. I lost my loyalty to the program 20 some years ago as an Akela when I had to shell out ridiculous money for badges and getting anything extra as rewards or to help the boys bond with the program was completely out of my or my ward's reach. Training costs were ridiculous as well, so I never did more than the basics...and I needed it big time. (I had volunteered when they couldn't find a man for the calling...12 boys, including two ADD and a no experience leader who was much better with junior Primary). My son had a wonderful time, but besides his first den mother (we were in the States at that time) and first scout leader, the rest could have cared less about the ceremonial stuff and just put their effort into the doing aspect (ocean kayaking, mountain climbing, winter camps). And the costs are insane! The last time we were at the scout office we bought a book and some of that iron on sticking stuff for badges and it cost us $50! 1 Link to comment
Gray Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 36 minutes ago, ElPatron said: Girl Scouts reaction is contained in this article. Half way through..... https://www.dallasnews.com/news/boy-scouts/2017/10/11/girls-will-allowed-join-cub-scouts-starting-2018-boy-scouts-2019 Maybe they'll start taking boys in response? Link to comment
Gray Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 This raises the question - will they be changing their name? Maybe they should just be called Scouts? 1 Link to comment
stemelbow Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Sounds like a bit of an ugly relationship between the two. Maybe both should go away and a new and improved ungendered scouts emerge. Link to comment
The Nehor Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, stemelbow said: Sounds like a bit of an ugly relationship between the two. Maybe both should go away and a new and improved ungendered scouts emerge. The Neutered Scouts? Link to comment
Avatar4321 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I don't have any issues with girls joining the cub scout programs. The soils we learn in scouting would benefit girls as much as boys I'm curious how campouts would work since there is no way boys and girls will be going later. I am surprised to hear about financing issues. It seems that these have started since they started compromising on standards. I could be wrong though. Link to comment
The Mean Farmer Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 31 minutes ago, stemelbow said: Sounds like a bit of an ugly relationship between the two. Maybe both should go away and a new and improved ungendered scouts emerge. Ungendered scouts, I get what you mean. Under that term I ask this - Will they still be camping? Link to comment
Jeanne Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 If it what a girl wants to do ...I am all for it. What most young LDS girls/young women need in the church (IMO) is more choices. Doesn't bother me...I think it is great..but I was under the assumption that scouting was almost/near done away with. 1 Link to comment
Buckeye Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Here is the church's response. Our girls are not joining, no surprise. But the tone seems to be fairly reasonable. I don't see this affecting much in my ward. "The Activity Days and Personal Progress programs of the church have long been in place to meet the needs of girls and young women in these age groups, and no change will be made in church programs," said LDS Church spokesman Eric Hawkins. "We recognize that the desire of the BSA is to expand their programs to serve more young people in the United States. The church, too, continues to look at ways to serve the needs of our youth worldwide." https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900002109/boy-scouts-of-america-plans-to-admit-girls.html 1 Link to comment
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