VideoGameJunkie Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Throughout my life I've had 3 cats that have touched my heart and each lived to be old ages and I cried over them. Are we to assume that eternal families will include our beloved pets? I'm not talking about pet goldfish, I'm talking about like our family dogs and cats that are part of our families. I'm interested in your thoughts, but my conclusion is it would be cruel of Heavenly Father not to include them in heaven with us and Heavenly Father would never be cruel to us.
Duncan Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) I don't like pets and stuff, especially dogs. I hope at least my piece of heaven is animal free! Blow your brains out with your budgies, bulldogs or baby buffalo's!!! Edited March 24, 2014 by Duncan
VideoGameJunkie Posted March 24, 2014 Author Posted March 24, 2014 I'll take them because they're part of my family! 3
strappinglad Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 I would hope that I would see and interact with my pets in the next life. I suspect that such will be allowed only if it is amenable to both parties. The master/pet relationship will likely be more egalitarian . 3
Brian 2.0 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Throughout my life I've had 3 cats that have touched my heart and each lived to be old ages and I cried over them. Are we to assume that eternal families will include our beloved pets? I'm not talking about pet goldfish, I'm talking about like our family dogs and cats that are part of our families. I'm interested in your thoughts, but my conclusion is it would be cruel of Heavenly Father not to include them in heaven with us and Heavenly Father would never be cruel to us.I could be remembering this wrong, but I read something from Orson Pratt saying that animals that fulfilled the measure of their creation got to come back as a higher life forms. Basically the intelligences of that animal will be added to or changed to form a higher animal and continuing to eventually form a human with the potential to be a God. Basically think that some of your intelligences that make you up may have been a blade of grass in some other world and that grass fulfilled the measure of its creation and became something else, eventually becoming what is part of you. I don't know if it was in that same quote but it was also talked about that outer darkness was spiritual annihilation, basically breaking you down to the intelligence level that would be formed into something else but those intelligences would never form together again with each other to form that person. Early church speculation was so rad.
Tacenda Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Man's best friend is a gift from God. He want's them back!
Duncan Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 I'll take them because they're part of my family! It says in Moroni 10 "without spot" so I don't care what the cartoon movie says I don't want dogs in Heaven!!! 1
Kenngo1969 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) I think so. Whatever happens, I don't think God will say, "I know you formed a special bond with that creature on Earth, and I wish you wouldn't have to go through eternity with a hole where that creature carved out its special place in your heart in mortality, but ..." I have faith that the Atonement of Jesus Christ heals all wounds, makes up for all losses, and makes everything right in the end. Edited March 24, 2014 by Kenngo1969
Kenngo1969 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 It says in Moroni 10 "without spot" so I don't care what the cartoon movie says I don't want dogs in Heaven!!!Yes, but it doesn't say, "Without Rover, Snookums, or Puddinhead"! 1
3DOP Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Will we be with our beloved pets? The question raises a question. Of course I want to be with my dear Mina...our little kitty (now big) that we nursed after her mommy left her under a piece of plywood. I love that kitty. But if Mina is immortal...what about that rooster that spurred my wife when she was little and became stew that night for its "transgression"? Does animal immortality depend on how they interacted with us? Or do we think all animals are immortal? Removing all sentiment, I am enjoying Mina now as God's gift to us, and God Himself in heaven. I find too many difficulties with any consistent criteria that allows for pet immortality. Edited March 24, 2014 by 3DOP 2
Duncan Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Will we be with our beloved pets? The question raises a question. Of course I want to be with my dear Mina...our little kitty (now big) that we nursed after her mommy left her under a piece of plywood. I love that kitty. But if Mina is immortal...what about that rooster that spurred my wife when she was little and became stew that night for its "transgression"? Does animal immortality depend on how they interacted with us? Or do we think all animals are immortal? Removing all sentiment, I am enjoying Mina now as God's gift to us, and God Himself in heaven. I find too many difficulties with any consistent criteria that allows for pet immortality. 3DOP you talk my language
JLHPROF Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 I think it is sad to consider that we won't be with beloved pets, but at the same time, they are lesser creatures - I don't see how they could enter into a celestial environment. I would hope there would be some opportunity for visitation even if they aren't eligible to live with God. Now I miss my two cats that have passed on...
Tiki Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 "Will We Be With Our Beloved Pets In Heaven?"Unless you go to hell. The you'll be with your unbeloved pets.
VideoGameJunkie Posted March 24, 2014 Author Posted March 24, 2014 This is a question I'll pray about for an answer in the temple because I've never seen any doctrine or a GA talk about our beloved pets whom we love. 1
AndyDnom Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Yes of course. Everyone will be with everyone, because we're all related. If families are sealed to each other, we're all going to be sealed in one big family. Just think of how many people Kevin Bacon will be sealed to!
Freedom Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Animals Since animals have spirits it seems sensible that they would be resurrect. But what about mosquitoes, viruses and amoebas? What about plants?
VideoGameJunkie Posted March 24, 2014 Author Posted March 24, 2014 I don't worry about those mosquitoes, viruses, and amoebas. I only worry about my 3 cats.
strappinglad Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) I understand that there are 10 times more bacteria in our bodies than there are human cells. In this life we would have great difficulty surviving without them . I believe that is true of most life forms .One best make friends of one's bacterial passengers. One may want them on side in the hereafter. Edited March 24, 2014 by strappinglad
JAHS Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Animals will be resurrected and will be somewhere in heaven. President Joseph Fielding Smith said:"The Lord created all things for a purpose. Nothing has he created to be destroyed, but that all things might endure forever. . .So we see that the Lord intends to save, not only the earth and the heavens, not only man who dwells upon the earth, but all things which he has created. The animals, the fishes of the sea, the fowls of the air, as well as man, are to be re-created, or renewed, through the resurrection, for they too are living souls. (Conference Report 1928 Oct: 99-100)The Doctrine and Covenants says:"For all old things shall pass away, and all things shall become new, even the heaven and the earth, and all the fulness thereof, both men and beasts, the fowls of the air, and the fishes of the sea;" (D&C 29:24)Joseph Smith said:"John heard the words of the beasts giving glory to God, and understood them. God who made the beasts could understand every language spoken by them. The four beasts were four of the most noble animals that had filled the measure of their creation, and had been saved from other worlds, because they were perfect: they were like angels in their sphere. We are not told where they came from, and I do not know; but they were seen and heard by John praising and glorifying God. [see Rev.4:6] (General conference of the Church held on the floor of the Nauvoo Temple, April 8, 1843 HC5:343-44)According to Joseph Fielding Smith:"As to where the beasts, birds, and fish, and all other creatures will go after the resurrection we can only express an opinion. John saw many of them in heaven in the presence of God (Rev. 5:13). It is very probable that they, like mankind, will be distributed in the various kingdoms, celestial, terrestrial, and telestial. We may well believe that in each of these kingdoms such creatures will be assigned." (Answers to Gospel Questions, vol. 2) All dogs go to heaven. Cats...... I don't know......
Garden Girl Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 There are "many mansions" in Heavenly Father's kingdom... I do believe that somewhere there is a sphere for pets such as dogs and cats. When I see how very smart my Bobbie-cat is in our interactions, I can't believe there is nothing for him. I would hope that it would include some form of contact, but maybe that is for this life only, to give us happiness and pleasure... and they move on and we move on. (but I do not believe they are eventually going to be like us or progress like us). GG
The Nehor Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 People who like cats are people who like narcissists. We can therefore assume they are all going to hell. 4
thesometimesaint Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 I honestly don't know. But I sincerely hope so.
thesometimesaint Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 People who like cats are people who like narcissists. We can therefore assume they are all going to hell. Dogs only think they are people, cats know they are.
Kenngo1969 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 People who like cats are people who like narcissists. We can therefore assume they are all going to hell. Dogs have owners; cats have staff.
Calm Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Animals Since animals have spirits it seems sensible that they would be resurrect. But what about mosquitoes, viruses and amoebas? What about plants?I see most life forms as part of earth's own life system (think of trees as hair, bugs as the bacteria we have in our bodies to process food, etc.). What spirit they have is simply embodied into another life form when they die...kind of like the world has a set amount of spiritual energy and matter that is shared by all the life forms that are part of it.I also see potentially some of the higher life forms as individual spirit creatures who will progress in their own way, who may even had a veil dropped over their souls such that what we see here is a small part of what they really are. I think it would be rather boring if the only spirits of eternal significance were human.
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