Foolish Virgins

[Senator]

From Elder Oaks most recent GC address "Divine Helps for Mortality":

"With so many powerful helps to guide us in our mortal journeys, it is disappointing that so many remain unprepared for their appointed meeting with our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ. His parable of the ten virgins, spoken of so frequently in this conference, suggests that of those invited to meet Him, only half will be prepared. We all know examples of the unprepared: returned missionaries who have interrupted their spiritual growth by periods of inactivity, youth who have jeopardized their spiritual growth by separating themselves from Church teaching and activities, men who have postponed their ordination to the Melchizedek Priesthood, men and women—sometimes the posterity of noble pioneers or worthy parents—who have departed the covenant path short of making and keeping covenants in the holy temple."

 

 

I read this to mean, we now have an official church sanctioned naming of who our contemporary "foolish virgins" are.  They've been identified!

And here we have been mulling over better ways to talk/approach those who have stepped away from the church. We are way off the mark!

[teddyaware]

25 minutes ago, Senator said:

From Elder Oaks most recent GC address "Divine Helps for Mortality":

"With so many powerful helps to guide us in our mortal journeys, it is disappointing that so many remain unprepared for their appointed meeting with our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ. His parable of the ten virgins, spoken of so frequently in this conference, suggests that of those invited to meet Him, only half will be prepared. We all know examples of the unprepared: returned missionaries who have interrupted their spiritual growth by periods of inactivity, youth who have jeopardized their spiritual growth by separating themselves from Church teaching and activities, men who have postponed their ordination to the Melchizedek Priesthood, men and women—sometimes the posterity of noble pioneers or worthy parents—who have departed the covenant path short of making and keeping covenants in the holy temple."

 

 

I read this to mean, we now have an official church sanctioned naming of who our contemporary "foolish virgins" are.  They've been identified!

And here we have been mulling over better ways to talk/approach those who have stepped away from the church. We are way off the mark!

As the Book of Mormon so powerfully testifies, there comes a point in time when beating around the bush becomes ineffectual and counterproductive. Have you considered the possibility that President Oaks, an ordained prophet, seer and revelator, is inspired of the Lord enough to know that the time has come when coddling and  “nice Jesus” approaches are no longer going to work in many cases, and that the time has come to engage in the conflict against unrighteousness by “bearing down in pure testimony?”

18 Now Alma did not grant unto him the office of being high priest over the church, but he retained the office of high priest unto himself; but he delivered the judgment-seat unto Nephihah.

19 And this he did that he himself might go forth among his people, or among the people of Nephi, that he might preach the word of God unto them, to stir them up in remembrance of their duty, and that he might pull down, by the word of God, all the pride and craftiness and all the contentions which were among his people, seeing no way that he might reclaim them save it were by bearing down in pure testimony against them. (Alma 4) 

It’s often been a cause for wonder when I see how so many members of the church fail to give the Lord’s anointed the benefit of the doubt. But then I remember that throughout history there have always been large numbers within the Lord’s kingdom who turn against the prophets and convinced themselves that they know better. Nothing new under the sun.

 

 

[CV75]

2 hours ago, Senator said:

From Elder Oaks most recent GC address "Divine Helps for Mortality":

"With so many powerful helps to guide us in our mortal journeys, it is disappointing that so many remain unprepared for their appointed meeting with our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ. His parable of the ten virgins, spoken of so frequently in this conference, suggests that of those invited to meet Him, only half will be prepared. We all know examples of the unprepared: returned missionaries who have interrupted their spiritual growth by periods of inactivity, youth who have jeopardized their spiritual growth by separating themselves from Church teaching and activities, men who have postponed their ordination to the Melchizedek Priesthood, men and women—sometimes the posterity of noble pioneers or worthy parents—who have departed the covenant path short of making and keeping covenants in the holy temple."

 

 

I read this to mean, we now have an official church sanctioned naming of who our contemporary "foolish virgins" are.  They've been identified!

And here we have been mulling over better ways to talk/approach those who have stepped away from the church. We are way off the mark!

Not so fast! 

"Humility and trust in the Lord are the remedies for such deviations. As the Book of Mormon teaches, the Lord “doth bless and prosper those who put their trust in him” (Helaman 12:1). Trusting in the Lord is a particular need for all who wrongly measure the commandments of God and the teachings of His prophets against the latest findings and wisdom of man.

"I have spoken of the many mortal helps our loving Father in Heaven has given to help His children return to Him. Our part in this divine plan is to trust in God and seek and use these divine helps, most notably the Atonement of His Beloved Son, our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ. I pray that we will teach and live these principles, in the name of Jesus Christ, amen."

He is not naming who the foolish virgins are, he is describing behaviors for warning repentance purposes. It ain't over 'til its's over!

 

 

[bluebell]

3 hours ago, Senator said:

From Elder Oaks most recent GC address "Divine Helps for Mortality":

"With so many powerful helps to guide us in our mortal journeys, it is disappointing that so many remain unprepared for their appointed meeting with our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ. His parable of the ten virgins, spoken of so frequently in this conference, suggests that of those invited to meet Him, only half will be prepared. We all know examples of the unprepared: returned missionaries who have interrupted their spiritual growth by periods of inactivity, youth who have jeopardized their spiritual growth by separating themselves from Church teaching and activities, men who have postponed their ordination to the Melchizedek Priesthood, men and women—sometimes the posterity of noble pioneers or worthy parents—who have departed the covenant path short of making and keeping covenants in the holy temple."

 

 

I read this to mean, we now have an official church sanctioned naming of who our contemporary "foolish virgins" are.  They've been identified!

And here we have been mulling over better ways to talk/approach those who have stepped away from the church. We are way off the mark!

I'm not sure if I'm understanding correctly what you mean. 

For myself, I don't agree completely with his take.  I do think that people who are behaving the specific way that he speaks about are being foolish, but that's based on my opinion on what the best path toward God is.  

But, in my understanding, the foolish virgins are those who wanted to attend the wedding, but were kind of phoning it in.  In the examples that Pres. Oaks gives, it doesn't seem like some of those people want to attend the wedding at all.  It seems like some have eschewed the invitation and aren't waiting for the bridegroom in any sense of the word.  

[MrShorty]

5 hours ago, Senator said:

I read this to mean, we now have an official church sanctioned naming of who our contemporary "foolish virgins" are.  They've been identified!

Based on the oft quoted "approaching Mormon doctrine" document, does one statement by a church leader mean that this is "official church sanctioned?" Beyond that, does this mean that God would name these groups of people as "foolish virgins?"

[marineland]

18 hours ago, Senator said:

From Elder Oaks most recent GC address "Divine Helps for Mortality":

"With so many powerful helps to guide us in our mortal journeys, it is disappointing that so many remain unprepared for their appointed meeting with our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ. His parable of the ten virgins, spoken of so frequently in this conference, suggests that of those invited to meet Him, only half will be prepared. We all know examples of the unprepared: returned missionaries who have interrupted their spiritual growth by periods of inactivity, youth who have jeopardized their spiritual growth by separating themselves from Church teaching and activities, men who have postponed their ordination to the Melchizedek Priesthood, men and women—sometimes the posterity of noble pioneers or worthy parents—who have departed the covenant path short of making and keeping covenants in the holy temple."

I saw another teaching by Elder Oaks mentioned in the Religion 250 institute manual.

Page 111

"Of [the parable of the ten virgins], the Lord said, 'And at that day, when I shall 
come in my glory, shall the parable be fulfilled which I spake concerning the ten 
virgins' (D&C 45:56).

"Given in the 25th chapter of Matthew, this parable contrasts the circumstances 
of the five foolish and the five wise virgins. All ten were invited to the 
wedding feast, but only half of them were prepared with oil in their lamps when 
the bridegroom came. The five who were prepared went into the marriage feast, and 
the door was shut. The five who had delayed their preparations came late. The 
door had been closed, and the Lord denied them entrance, saying, 'I know you not' 
[Matthew 25:12]. 'Watch therefore,' the Savior concluded, 'for ye know neither the 
day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh' [Matthew 25:13].

"The arithmetic of this parable is chilling. The ten virgins obviously represent 
members of Christ's Church, for all were invited to the wedding feast and all 
knew what was required to be admitted when the bridegroom came. But only half were 
ready when he came" (Dallin H. Oaks, "Preparation for the Second Coming," Ensign 
or Liahona, May 2004, 8).

This does not bode well if the Marriage Supper occurs in the highest division of 
the Celestial Kingdom for only exalted members of the Church of the Firstborn
(D&C 76:54).

"But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: 
but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went 
to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the 
marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, 
Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know 
you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the 
Son of man cometh".

[Stargazer]

3 hours ago, marineland said:

I saw another teaching by Elder Oaks mentioned in the Religion 250 institute manual.

Page 111

"Of [the parable of the ten virgins], the Lord said, 'And at that day, when I shall 
come in my glory, shall the parable be fulfilled which I spake concerning the ten 
virgins' (D&C 45:56).

"Given in the 25th chapter of Matthew, this parable contrasts the circumstances 
of the five foolish and the five wise virgins. All ten were invited to the 
wedding feast, but only half of them were prepared with oil in their lamps when 
the bridegroom came. The five who were prepared went into the marriage feast, and 
the door was shut. The five who had delayed their preparations came late. The 
door had been closed, and the Lord denied them entrance, saying, 'I know you not' 
[Matthew 25:12]. 'Watch therefore,' the Savior concluded, 'for ye know neither the 
day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh' [Matthew 25:13].

"The arithmetic of this parable is chilling. The ten virgins obviously represent 
members of Christ's Church, for all were invited to the wedding feast and all 
knew what was required to be admitted when the bridegroom came. But only half were 
ready when he came" (Dallin H. Oaks, "Preparation for the Second Coming," Ensign 
or Liahona, May 2004, 8).

This does not bode well if the Marriage Supper occurs in the highest division of 
the Celestial Kingdom for only exalted members of the Church of the Firstborn
(D&C 76:54).

"But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: 
but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went 
to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the 
marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, 
Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know 
you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the 
Son of man cometh".

To you, as a non-LDS Christian, who are the foolish virgins? They were invited to the wedding feast, and obviously showed up, so they must have some sort of belief or commitment, even if it clearly wasn't enough. So, according to you, who are they? Are they going to heaven or hell? 

[The Nehor]

So the question is if you are a wise virgin or a foolish virgin. If you aren’t a virgin at all presumably the parable doesn’t apply and you are DOOMED!!!!!!

[manol]

2 hours ago, The Nehor said:

If you aren’t a virgin at all presumably the parable doesn’t apply and you are DOOMED!!!!!!

Or exempt??

Seriously, I hardly think this parable is a call for judging oneself to be better than others.  I think it is a call for introspection.  One might start by asking God (rather than the Sunday School manual) what the oil symbolizes in one's own life. 

Edited April 22, 2025 by manol

[Teancum]

On 4/21/2025 at 4:22 PM, Senator said:

From Elder Oaks most recent GC address "Divine Helps for Mortality":

"With so many powerful helps to guide us in our mortal journeys, it is disappointing that so many remain unprepared for their appointed meeting with our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ. His parable of the ten virgins, spoken of so frequently in this conference, suggests that of those invited to meet Him, only half will be prepared. We all know examples of the unprepared: returned missionaries who have interrupted their spiritual growth by periods of inactivity, youth who have jeopardized their spiritual growth by separating themselves from Church teaching and activities, men who have postponed their ordination to the Melchizedek Priesthood, men and women—sometimes the posterity of noble pioneers or worthy parents—who have departed the covenant path short of making and keeping covenants in the holy temple."

 

 

I read this to mean, we now have an official church sanctioned naming of who our contemporary "foolish virgins" are.  They've been identified!

And here we have been mulling over better ways to talk/approach those who have stepped away from the church. We are way off the mark!

It is nice to know that the GAs continue to disparage and marginalize those who seek a different path. I am glad I don't bother with conference anymore. 

[Stargazer]

15 hours ago, Teancum said:

It is nice to know that the GAs continue to disparage and marginalize those who seek a different path.

Yes it is. And perhaps some of those different paths lead to different kinds of disasters in the end? Time will tell, I suppose.

15 hours ago, Teancum said:

I am glad I don't bother with conference anymore. 

Why waste one's time on something one will just end up disparaging? 

Edited April 23, 2025 by Stargazer

[teddyaware]

14 hours ago, Teancum said:

It is nice to know that the GAs continue to disparage and marginalize those who seek a different path. I am glad I don't bother with conference anymore. 

And if the those who end up choosing to be numbered among the foolish virgins aren’t warned with enough frequency and fervency, you can count on the fact that on the day of judgement they’ll be screaming bloody murder about how unfair it is that they weren’t given sufficient warning! Of moral necessity, the prophets are under strict obligation to give repeated clear warnings to the members of the church so that those who have been fully warned will know beforehand the consequences of their own inaction. Giving sufficient warning of the fate that inevitably awaits those who willfully remain unprepared is called “ridding one’s garments of the blood and sins of this generation.”

When sufficient warning is given, the foolish virgins will have no one to blame but themselves when the doors to marriage super of the Lamb are shut. And I promise you that the day is going to come when when all of this bellyaching about the prophets of God who are simply doing their job will be clearly understood by all, even the foolish virgins, to be the caterwauling of the spiritually immature who refuse to grow up and face the reality of living in an existence that’s affirmed on the eternal principle of opposition in all things.

Edited April 23, 2025 by teddyaware

[MustardSeed]

21 minutes ago, teddyaware said:

Of moral necessity, the prophets are under strict obligation to give repeated clear warnings to the members of the church

Do you fancy yourself a prophet? 

[manol]

1 hour ago, teddyaware said:

And if the those who end up choosing to be numbered among the foolish virgins aren’t warned with enough frequency and fervency, you can count on the fact that on the day of judgement they’ll be screaming bloody murder about how unfair it is that they weren’t given sufficient warning! Of moral necessity, the prophets are under strict obligation to give repeated clear warnings to the members of the church so that those who have been fully warned will know beforehand the consequences of their own inaction. Giving sufficient warning of the fate that inevitably awaits those who willfully remain unprepared is called “ridding one’s garments of the blood and sins of this generation.”

When sufficient warning is given, the foolish virgins will have no one to blame but themselves when the doors to marriage super of the Lamb are shut. And I promise you that the day is going to come when when all of this bellyaching about the prophets of God who are simply doing their job will be clearly understood by all, even the foolish virgins, to be the caterwauling of the spiritually immature who refuse to grow up and face the reality of living in an existence that’s affirmed on the eternal principle of opposition in all things.

 

It sound to me like you are looking forward to God's vengeance crushing the souls of those you would look down on.  Let me suggest a different paradigm:

God is in all (D&C 88:41).  This means the God in you is also in the one you mock or vilify or condemn.  But in order for ANY of us to be made perfect, we NEED them, and they NEED us (D&C 128:18).  So... really, there is no "them".  There is really only "us", each of us perhaps being at a different place on the path, the advanced disciple being of no greater value than the struggling beginner (Acts 10:34 and Parable of the Lost Sheep).   Exaltation is actually reunion, and not separation... otherwise, Christ will have failed to accomplish his mission (Moses 1:39). 

In my opinion. 

Edited April 23, 2025 by manol

[Stargazer]

4 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

Do you fancy yourself a prophet? 

Just for grins...

Numbers 11:29 And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the Lord’s people were prophets, and that the Lord would put his spirit upon them!

 

[JVW]

18 hours ago, The Nehor said:

So the question is if you are a wise virgin or a foolish virgin. If you aren’t a virgin at all presumably the parable doesn’t apply and you are DOOMED!!!!!!

I'm a foolish virgin, but the kind of virgin definition that applies only when considering the strict definition of the term. My sense of urgency is broken, as is my willpower and self-discipline. I can't say that I'm proud of my status, but I'm not going to lie to myself and deny it either.

[MustardSeed]

44 minutes ago, Stargazer said:

Just for grins...

Numbers 11:29 And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the Lord’s people were prophets, and that the Lord would put his spirit upon them!

 

Well then- there are two kinds of people in the world.  Those who feel called to cry repentance to those they judge us sinners, and those who don’t.

I think it would be easy to determine here who falls into which category.  We all have to live with a consequences of our own chosen category.

[Senator]

17 hours ago, manol said:

Or exempt??

Seriously, I hardly think this parable is a call for judging oneself to be better than others.  I think it is a call for introspection.  One might start by asking God (rather than the Sunday School manual) what the oil symbolizes in one's own life. 

I think you are in the right direction.

I'm having a hard time articulating what it is that is bothering me.  But something about the messaging rubs me wrong.

Look, I get that one of the jobs of the messengers of God is to call people to repentance, and for that reason it is not my intent, nor wish, to shoot the messenger.  But being as it is that neither the messenger nor the message is infallible, I must weight it, and digest it through my own spiritual filters

Of all the myriad examples of behaviors that would render us unprepared to meet the Savior, he isolated out these particular individuals who are not toeing the pristine LDS prescribed path, and has, in a sense, branded then as exemplars of the foolish virgin. Like a good ol' scarlet letter on their chest, a "FV" instead of an "A".  Are we not all unprepared to meet Jesus in some fashion? Does he give any consideration as to what is transpiring  in their lives, that might give meaning to their current state?  Life's grist that actually cries for a meeting with Jesus, instead of a rebuff?

I don't know, maybe I'm totally wrong.  But I don't see this as helpful. 

Edited April 23, 2025 by Senator

[teddyaware]

1 hour ago, manol said:

 

It sound to me like you are looking forward to God's vengeance crushing the souls of those you look down on.  Let me suggest a different paradigm:

God is in all (D&C 88:41).  This means the God in you is also in the one you mock or vilify or condemn.  But in order for ANY of us to be made perfect, we NEED them, and they NEED us (D&C 128:18).  So... really, there is no "them".  There is really only "us", each of us perhaps being at a different place on the path, the advanced disciple being of no greater value than the struggling beginner (Acts 10:34 and Parable of the Lost Sheep).   Exaltation is actually reunion, and not separation... otherwise, Christ will have failed to accomplish his mission (Moses 1:39). 

In my opinion. 

I’m not at all looking forward to the day of God’s vengeance because I’m an imperfect sinner, just like you. The Lord’s warning to be a diligent and prepared wise virgin applies to me as well as you, and I tremble at the warning to heed his warning to get serious and be prepared to enter the wedding feast of the Lamb while his arm of his mercy is still extended toward me. You surmised wrong! Just because I understand the Lord’s clear warning doesn’t make me a hypocrite.

What I’m trying to understand is why in the world there’s so much twisting, contorting and straining to take the Lord’s simple, easy to understand warning at his word?! There are three degrees of heavenly glory and only the wise virgins are going to obtain the fullness of eternal glory in the celestial kingdom. Period! This is a simple concept that’s easy enough for even a young child to understand! It’s simple: God is indeed most merciful, but his mercy cannot rob justice and justice demands that only those who are earnestly striving to live the celestial law will be worthy enough to obtain exaltation. It’s time for all of us, Including Yours Truly, to grow up and stop behaving like willful, rebellious, petulant children who don’t like living in the world of consequences. Read and weep…

21 And they who are not sanctified through the law which I have given unto you, even the law of Christ, must inherit another kingdom, even that of a terrestrial kingdom, or that of a telestial kingdom.

22 For he who is not able to abide the law of a celestial kingdom cannot abide a celestial glory. (Doctrine and Covenants 88)

Edited April 23, 2025 by teddyaware

[Doctor Steuss]

At least it's a tacit admission that the law of chastity was kept, and leaving wasn't because of a desire to sin.

Baby steps.

[The Nehor]

1 hour ago, JVW said:

I'm a foolish virgin, but the kind of virgin definition that applies only when considering the strict definition of the term. My sense of urgency is broken, as is my willpower and self-discipline. I can't say that I'm proud of my status, but I'm not going to lie to myself and deny it either.

I have been told the Second Coming is imminent my whole life. If God wanted the human psyche to be in a state of perpetual urgency then God designed us wrong.

[The Nehor]

25 minutes ago, Doctor Steuss said:

At least it's a tacit admission that the law of chastity was kept, and leaving wasn't because of a desire to sin.

Baby steps.

People who can’t imagine that anyone would leave except to have a bunch of orgies are really telling on themselves.

[MustardSeed]

8 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

I have been told the Second Coming is imminent my whole life. If God wanted the human psyche to be in a state of perpetual urgency then God designed us wrong.

Oh! Maybe it was this Messaging and too many games of musical chairs growing up that had me chewing anti anxiety meds so much as a young adult. 

[JVW]

34 minutes ago, Senator said:

I think you are in the right direction.

I'm having a hard time articulating what it is that is bothering me.  But something about the messaging rubs me wrong.

Look, I get that one of the jobs of the messengers of God is to call people to repentance, and for that reason it is not my intent, nor wish, to shoot the messenger.  But being as it is that neither the messenger nor the message is infallible, I must weight it, and digest it through my own spiritual filters

Of all the myriad examples of behaviors that would render us unprepared to meet the Savior, he isolated out these particular individuals who are not toeing the pristine LDS prescribed path, and has, in a sense, branded then as exemplars of the foolish virgin. Like a good ol' scarlet letter on their chest, a "FV" instead of an "A".  Are we not all unprepared to meet Jesus in some fashion? Does he give any consideration as to what is transpiring  in their lives, that might give meaning to their current state?  Life's grist that actually cries for a meeting with Jesus, instead of a rebuff?

I don't know, maybe I'm totally wrong.  But I don't see this as helpful. 

I understand what you're saying. I do think something more needs to be considered though.

We all deceive ourselves all the time. Each person thinks they have the best perspective on life, and think they are making the best choices with the best information they have. In other words, nobody is ever wrong, especially in modern culture. This is a lie.

We are all lying to ourselves in a myriad number of ways. And it is impossible for me to fully illuminate all of the ways in which I am lying to myself. If an attempt is made by someone else, whether it be uncouth or gentle, to help me pierce through the facade I've built up, then I personally really appreciate it. If I don't want to hear it or get offended by it, then (to me) that could mean a few things (or a combination of them):

- I'm arrogant, proud, and unwilling to change. I think I'm already good and the person doesn't know me and they are stupid and way off the mark.

- They hit the target. Because I'm feeling hurt by it, that may mean that a lie I've been telling myself has just been uncovered and I should take some time to try and fully expose it and replace it with truth.

- They are evil, vile, hateful people who want to hurt me and I should try to shrug it off because it's not good for anyone to listen to it.

- Probably 10 more things it could mean that aren't coming to mind.

In the case of this General Authority. I don't think he was trying to be mean, hateful, or unloving. I don't think he was trying to get "wise virgins" to judge or condemn "foolish virgins". I think he was providing an opportunity for introspection and open a door for at least one person, somewhere, to consider that maybe they've been lying to themselves thinking they were wise when they've actually been foolish. And that is a very loving thing to do. I wish more people would try to call me out on my crap, even if they're wrong, because I'm up to my eyeballs in it so I can't see anything else.

From my experience speaking with many members, I believe that people vastly overestimate how many will be receiving Celestial Glory, and how many people will be prepared to receive Christ during His Second Coming. So maybe that's why this message is rubbing people the wrong way. Also, in this thread many people have said there's a bunch of paths back to God, and I think that's really strange to read because Jesus was crystal clear that He is The Way, there is no other way. Those who are not following Jesus Christ (or the Light of Christ) are walking on a path away from God, according to Jesus. I don't have time to look up a bunch of scriptures to support this, but I'm pretty sure it says it all over the place.

[JVW]

15 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

I have been told the Second Coming is imminent my whole life. If God wanted the human psyche to be in a state of perpetual urgency then God designed us wrong.

I understand what you're saying.

In my case my lack of a sense of urgency is mostly likely from my ADHD. For instance, I should be feeling a sense of urgency to look for work because my current company is a clothing company and is getting smacked upside the head with the tariff situation. But I don't feel any urgency. Or seeing the trillions of debt in most countries around the world should get me feeling urgent to settle my debts and stockpile stuff away for when the super duper great depression happens. There's a lot of stuff that is easily observable in my life that's coming down the pipe that I should feel a sense of urgency to work to mitigate before the bomb explodes, but I'm just kind of broken in that way.