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  1. 1) Jesus has always been God. There never was a time when he was not God. I do not believe he was the first spirit child born to heavenly parents who then went on to become a God. 2] There are various opinions on whether King Melchizedek is eternal or not. Hebrews 7:3 says, "Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually". Supposedly he did not have heavenly parents (and did not have earthly parents either in LDS theology?). Some propose that Melchizedek was actually a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ. 3) I don't believe that the Davidic kings existed before they were born on Earth. 4) About Psalm 82, the gods mentioned there are the wicked Jewish human judges. 5) Similar answer as #3. 6) Before I can answer, please explain what you mean by begetting or begotten? 7) To me, from everlasting to everlasting describes the eternal nature of God, not an intelligence who progressed from a man to a God. Joseph Smith taught God is not from everlasting to everlasting. If the phrase "from everlasting to everlasting" is a finite phrase that clearly means there is a time before each so-called "everlasting", then Joseph Smith's logic implies there is no time before each so-called "everlasting". Tony
  2. I believe Jesus is God even before his birth to Mary.
  3. How did Jesus and the Holy Ghost become children of their heavenly parents?
  4. I'm into lesson 11 of the manual (Religion 275) now and have some questions. "False prophets and false teachers ... also attempt to redefine the nature of the Godhead,..." What are some examples of false views of the nature of the Godhead? Prior to Jesus and the Holy Ghost being born of heavenly parents, did the Godhead consist solely of Heavenly Father?
  5. Not suffering in heaven, but suffering after their mortal death (Alma 40:11-14); continuing after their resurrection (Alma 40:23-26).
  6. Regarding your first point, I think those passages refer to after resurrection. Regarding your second point, the introduction notes to Alma 40 says, "The righteous dead go to paradise and the wicked to outer darkness to await the day of their resurrection."
  7. I'm into lesson 9 of the manual (Religion 275) now and had a question on this quote. Pages 40-41 - Explain that the "kingdom of God" has at least two separate meanings—one earthly and one celestial. Invite a student to read aloud the following statement by Elder Bruce R. McConkie (1915–85) of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, and help students understand that in Alma 7:19 the "kingdom of God" refers to the celestial kingdom: "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as it is now constituted is the kingdom of God on earth. ... In the eternal worlds, the celestial kingdom is the kingdom of God. ... The gospel is designed to prepare men for an inheritance in the celestial kingdom of God" (Mormon Doctrine, 2nd ed. [1966], 415–17.) Page 42 - Sin leads to spiritual death and prevents us from entering God's kingdom. If the earthly and celestial divisions constitute the Kingdom of God as the church teaches, then will the misery of the telestial inhabitants be just as severe as the terrestrials because both groups did not endure to the end and were cast out; where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Alma 11:40; 2 Nephi 31:16, 20; 3 Nephi 27:17; Matthew 8:11-12; Luke 13:27-29)?
  8. Psalm 82:6 says "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High". Who are those gods and what is the setting?
  9. I have seen some church teachings that Adam sinned and others that he did not sin in the Garden of Eden. You may want to add a disclaimer in your paper when you mention "original sin".
  10. One important testimony to have is the testimony of God about himself. Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me (Isaiah 43:10).
  11. Apart from military and police use, does the AR-15 have a reason to be owned by the ordinary civilian instead of smaller handguns like the Glock or Ruger?
  12. Based on what the manual said, "salvation" in the Book of Mormon is synonymous with exaltation.
  13. I'm into lesson 8 of the manual (Religion 275) now and had a question on this quote. Page 35 Invite students to read 2 Nephi 2:6–9, looking for what the prophet Lehi said makes salvation possible. • According to Lehi, what makes salvation possible in God’s plan? (Students should identify the following: We can be saved only through the merits, mercy, and grace of Jesus Christ. You might share the following definition of what it means to be saved or to receive salvation: “Salvation in its true and full meaning is synonymous with exaltation or eternal life and consists in gaining an inheritance in the highest of the three heavens within the celestial kingdom. With few exceptions this is the salvation of which the scriptures speak” What few exceptions in the Book of Mormon show salvation is not exaltation?
  14. @Fether Thank you both for your comments. I also found it mentioned in the True to the Faith book in the definition for Eternal Life on page 52. Remember that as you give your greatest effort and repent of your sins, the Atonement of Jesus Christ will compensate for your weakness and for the inequities, injuries, and pains you experience in this life: "We know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do" (2 Nephi 25:23).
  15. What do you mean Heavenly Father is the perfect human?
  16. If salvation in the Book of Mormon means exaltation, that would lead me to conclude everyone else suffers damnation.
  17. I'm into lesson 7 of the manual (Religion 275) now and have some questions about things mentioned on these pages. Page 31 - The Book of Mormon restores plain and precious truths that have been lost from the Bible. When we study the Book of Mormon, our understanding of the doctrines in the Bible is clarified. Would you be able to provide 2 to 3 of the plain and precious truths that have been lost from the Bible and how these are clearly clarified and explained by the Book of Mormon? Tony
  18. Can you specify one or two of the most significant problems that we face today, mentioned solely in the Book of Mormon and not in other scriptures, which makes the Book of Mormon of great worth today?
  19. What is the most significant prophecy about the Gentiles in the Book of Mormon that is not found in any other books of canon?
  20. Let's pick an example for each time era to simplify matters. What problems were the writers of the Book of Mormon aware of that would exist in Joseph Smith's day and/or our day that makes the Book of Mormon of great worth? The seminary manual's teaching seems to single out the Book of Mormon without giving similar praise to the Bible, Pearl of Great Price, or the Doctrine and Covenants so there must be something that really stands out in the Book of Mormon.
  21. For now, I don't have anything beyond my initial question.
  22. I'm into lesson 6 of the manual (Religion 275) now and have some questions about things mentioned on these pages. Page 27 - What is the meaning of Moroni’s declaration that the Book of Mormon contains “the fulness of the everlasting Gospel”? To help answer this question, display the following statement by President Ezra Taft Benson and ask a student to read it: “The Lord Himself has stated that the Book of Mormon contains the ‘fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ’ (D&C 20:9). That does not mean it contains every teaching, every doctrine ever revealed. Rather, it means that in the Book of Mormon we will find the fulness of those doctrines required for our salvation. And they are taught plainly and simply” (Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Ezra Taft Benson [2014], 131). • What are some of the “doctrines required for our salvation” contained in the Book of Mormon? (These doctrines include the Atonement, faith in Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism, and the gift of the Holy Ghost.) 29 - Why is it important to know that Moroni and other Book of Mormon writers were aware of the problems we face today? (As you discuss this question, emphasize the following truth: The teachings in the Book of Mormon are of great worth to us today because the writers were aware of the problems we would face.) What problems that we face today, solely mentioned in the Book of Mormon and not in other scriptures, make the Book of Mormon of great worth today? The old versions of the Book of Mormon (going back to 1981) say the Bible contains the fulness of the gospel but this has been removed from the 2013 version. Why was that change made? Tony
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