Bernard Gui Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Chum said: Her roommate's service wombat that was just diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder Couldn’t decide if he was a wom or a bat?
Calm Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scott Lloyd said: You’re just going to ignore the deliberate and illustrative awkwardness in my referring to you with “they” and “their,” then? That was the point of my post, not trying to guess your preferences (although, when somebody calls something “new-fangled silliness,” it’s generally a safe assumption that he or she doesn’t much care for it). I don’t see it as awkward. Anymore than a game of Twister. Stretch yourself. Quote although, when somebody calls something “new-fangled silliness,” it’s generally a safe assumption that he or she doesn’t much care for it) My experience is that it is generally safe to assume they are making a joke. Edited September 30, 2021 by Calm 1
Chum Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: Couldn’t decide if he was a wom or a bat? I was about to think that.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Calm said: I don’t see it as awkward. Anymore than a game of Twister. Stretch yourself. My experience is that it is generally safe to assume they are making a joke. Maybe I was joking when I said you didn’t much like it. I actually don’t think you care much about it — any more than I care what your preference is. But referring to you as “they,” when your gender is well known to me, seems a little nutty — and obviously so. Takes all kinds to make a world, I guess. Edited October 1, 2021 by Scott Lloyd
bOObOO Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 21 hours ago, Fair Dinkum said: And I, Fair Dinkum, saw that I must soon go down to my grave were I to remain here; wherefore, I said unto my friendimies on MD&D: Take these words. And I told you the things in my heart, and I honestly tried to seek understanding and answers to difficult questions. And I make an end of my posting here upon this board, which posting has been small compared to @smac97 @Scott Lloyd @Robert F. Smith but especially when compared to @Calm; and to the reader I bid farewell, hoping that many of my brethren may read my words. Brethren*, adieu. *and of course like any good Mormon man when I say Brethren, inferred in that term, women instinctively know we men mean Sisters too, right? We just can't say the actual words, but you all understand. I hope you're still planning to watch and listen to all of the General Conference addresses, including the next session coming this weekend. Shirking on your responsibility to declare the gospel whenever you can is no good reason to shirk your other responsibilities.
The Nehor Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: Elitism is in the eye of the beholder. In feudal times? No. 4 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: To me, political correctness, which exerts much of the pressure on modern vernacular to change, is a form of elitism. It is not.
Bernard Gui Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chum said: I was about to think that. I’ve seen a wombat. They are real. They do not have wings or fangs. Edited September 30, 2021 by Bernard Gui
Chum Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Bernard Gui said: I’ve seen a wombat. They are real. They do not have wings or fangs. I should have gone with service badger. I don't know what I was thinking. 2
Scott Lloyd Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Nehor said: In feudal times? No. It is not. The 18th century was not in feudal times, which ended in the 12th. In any case, I stand by my statement that political correctness is a form of elitism. Authoritarianism too. Edited October 1, 2021 by Scott Lloyd 2
mfbukowski Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 11 hours ago, MiserereNobis said: I would love it if my students refuted me when I corrected their grammar by pointing to William and the Werewolf. Grammar. It's the difference between knowing your sh*t and knowing you're sh*t. Yeah but you still have to factor in the Shinola factor!
Ipod Touch Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 4:30 PM, Scott Lloyd said: Actually, it bothers me more that he used the word inferred when he should have said implied. People Who Constantly Point Out Grammar Mistakes Are Pretty Much Jerks, Scientists Find -2
teddyaware Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ipod Touch said: People Who Constantly Point Out Grammar Mistakes Are Pretty Much Jerks, Scientists Find Actually, Scott’s comment speaks to the proper usage of words, based on their actual definition, rather than on grammar. I’m grateful Scott made this point because I now have a clearer understanding of the difference between inferring and implying. To infer is to make an educated guess, while imply means to hint. Edited October 1, 2021 by teddyaware 2
Popular Post Amulek Posted October 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted October 1, 2021 18 hours ago, Bernard Gui said: Couldn’t decide if he was a wom or a bat? Myself, I rather like the bat, It's not a mouse, it's not a rat. It has no feathers, yet has wings, It's quite inaudible when it sings. It zigzags through the evening air And never lands on ladies' hair, A fact of which men spend their lives Attempting to convince their wives. -Ogden Nash 6
Bernard Gui Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 12 hours ago, Chum said: I should have gone with service badger. I don't know what I was thinking. I would have gone with echidnas, but that’s just my preference. 2
Popular Post Amulek Posted October 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted October 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Ipod Touch said: People Who Constantly Point Out Grammar Mistakes Are Pretty Much Jerks, Scientists Find Thanks for sharing. I'll be sure to check it out once I finish reading up on How to Deal With Passive-Aggressive People. 6
Bernard Gui Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, Amulek said: Myself, I rather like the bat, It's not a mouse, it's not a rat. It has no feathers, yet has wings, It's quite inaudible when it sings. It zigzags through the evening air And never lands on ladies' hair, A fact of which men spend their lives Attempting to convince their wives. -Ogden Nash There once was a wombat from Hobart Who rode with Mad Max in a go-cart. When asked of the propriety Of keeping such society, He answered, “I’m just a spare part.” -Bernardo Gui 3
Chum Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: I would have gone with echidnas, but that’s just my preference. If we're going to downsize, I'm thinking service virus and being covered in comfort. Oh hey. It's my turn to be the terrible person.
Chum Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: There once was a wombat from Hobart Who rode with Mad Max in a go-cart. When asked of the propriety Of keeping such society, He answered, “I’m just a spare part.” Please choose a reply. I love Irish Haiku Hey it's a lamerick Maya Angelou has a temple surprise waiting for you You call that Poe-etry?
Scott Lloyd Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 3 hours ago, teddyaware said: Actually, Scott’s comment speaks to the proper usage of words, based on their actual definition, rather than on grammar. I’m grateful Scott made this point because I now have a clearer understanding of the difference between inferring and implying. To infer is to make an educated guess, while imply means to hint. Precisely! To put it another way, to infer pertains to receiving, while to imply pertains to sending. 1
mfbukowski Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Ipod Touch said: People Who Constantly Point Out Grammar Mistakes Are Pretty Much Jerks, Scientists Find You should have actually read the article "Overall, everybody rated the fictional housemate applicants with typos and grammatical errors in their emails as worse than those with perfect spelling and grammar. "
mfbukowski Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: Precisely! To put it another way, to infer pertains to receiving, while to imply pertains to sending. Or, to infer is what the author wants YOU to think vs implying is what you want HIM to think, while never saying either explicitly. 1
mfbukowski Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Chum said: Please choose a reply. I love Irish Haiku Hey it's a lamerick Maya Angelou has a temple surprise waiting for you You call that Poe-etry? E tried.
Chum Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, mfbukowski said: E tried. I'll be less punchy next time.
Scott Lloyd Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, mfbukowski said: Or, to infer is what the author wants YOU to think vs implying is what you want HIM to think, while never saying either explicitly. Um, no. Inferring is something you might do when receiving a message; implying is something you might to when sending a message. Examples: John didn’t say so explicitly, but I inferred from his wording and tone that he didn’t like what I did yesterday. Or … I didn’t say so explicitly when I spoke to John, but I implied through my wording and tone that I didn’t like what he did yesterday. A synonym for imply is insinuate. A synonym for infer is conclude. Or deduce. Edited October 1, 2021 by Scott Lloyd
mfbukowski Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: Um, no. Inferring is something you might do when receiving a message; implying is something you might to when sending a message. Examples: John didn’t say so explicitly, but I inferred from his wording and tone that he didn’t like what I did yesterday. Or … I didn’t say so explicitly when I spoke to John, but I implied through my wording and tone that I didn’t like what he did yesterday. Yeah. Read what I said again, carefully this time. Then show me exactly how it differs from what you said. It doesn't You may INFER what the author IMPLIED. That's the reason he implied it That is the reason one implies without being explicit OR YOU may IMPLY what you want the reader to INFER without being explicit. Nevermind. It's just a different way of seeing it. I am speaking about WHY one implies something, not HOW Implication is a kind of passive aggressive thing. I want you to think something I do not want to say. I am tricking you into inferring it. And then you fall into my nefarious plan. And what does that imply? Edited October 1, 2021 by mfbukowski
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