2 hour block

[Prof]

In another thread, the 2 hour block was brought. Basically, member would attend 2 hours on Sunday in stead of 3. Sacrament and then Priesthood/RS. I was curious about why the Church was considering it. Does anyone know? 

I can see a lot of positives: more time for families, more time for ministering, easier logistics for buildings with multiple units, fewer people called as teachers who could do something else.

I can see some negatives: less time for instruction, especially tough on new converts and investigators.

There are probably other reasons for and against.

Anyone know the Churches reasoning for considering it?

[Hamba Tuhan]

17 minutes ago, Prof said:

Anyone know the Churches reasoning for considering it?

As pogi himself stated, it's probably just a rumour. 

[Bernard Gui]

Or, realistically, more time for tv football, screens, social media?

Edited July 4, 2018 by Bernard Gui

[Tacenda]

24 minutes ago, Prof said:

In another thread, the 2 hour block was brought. Basically, member would attend 2 hours on Sunday in stead of 3. Sacrament and then Priesthood/RS. I was curious about why the Church was considering it. Does anyone know? 

I can see a lot of positives: more time for families, more time for ministering, easier logistics for buildings with multiple units, fewer people called as teachers who could do something else.

I can see some negatives: less time for instruction, especially tough on new converts and investigators.

There are probably other reasons for and against.

Anyone know the Churches reasoning for considering it?

I would much rather it be a Sunday School vs. RS/PH class.

[smac97]

22 minutes ago, Prof said:

In another thread, the 2 hour block was brought. Basically, member would attend 2 hours on Sunday in stead of 3. Sacrament and then Priesthood/RS. I was curious about why the Church was considering it. Does anyone know? 

I can see a lot of positives: more time for families, more time for ministering, easier logistics for buildings with multiple units, fewer people called as teachers who could do something else.

I can see some negatives: less time for instruction, especially tough on new converts and investigators.

There are probably other reasons for and against.

Anyone know the Churches reasoning for considering it?

A few thoughts:

A. A two-hour block could either be structured to eliminate Sunday School altogether, or else alternate the second hour (one Sunday would have Sunday School, the next Sunday would have RS/Priesthood, and so on).  

B. A two-hour block could either increase the number of units meeting in a building.  This would probably only make sense in some parts of the "Mormon Corridor," as otherwise this proposal would likely increase drive times for units serving "outlying" areas.

C. As an alternative to item B, we could keep the number of units per building as-is, but encourage members to stay for what would have been the third hour to mingle with each other and strengthen friendships.

D. A two-hour block could encourage families and individuals to study the Gospel more, rather than rely exclusively on the three-hour block (that would be my hope, anyway).

Thanks,

-Smac

[pogi]

31 minutes ago, Prof said:

In another thread, the 2 hour block was brought. Basically, member would attend 2 hours on Sunday in stead of 3. Sacrament and then Priesthood/RS. I was curious about why the Church was considering it. Does anyone know? 

I can see a lot of positives: more time for families, more time for ministering, easier logistics for buildings with multiple units, fewer people called as teachers who could do something else.

I can see some negatives: less time for instruction, especially tough on new converts and investigators.

There are probably other reasons for and against.

Anyone know the Churches reasoning for considering it?

It is a tender mercy for parents with young children.

[Prof]

6 minutes ago, smac97 said:

 

D. A two-hour block could encourage families and individuals to study the Gospel more, rather than rely exclusively on the three-hour block (that would be my hope, anyway).

Thanks,

-Smac

That would be my hope as well.

[sunstoned]

Two hours is a reasonable commitment in time and effort for lesson/instruction type activities.  As a college professor, I know I have to break up my 1:15 hour classes with some activities to keep attention spans from going south.

[blueglass]

Could have RS and priesthood one night/month?  RS always has an activity or dinner in our Ward on one night/month.  For  Priesthood we get together rarely unless it's church basketball season.

[Guest]

32 minutes ago, Hamba Tuhan said:

As pogi himself stated, it's probably just a rumour. 

I believe it is rumor, threads such as these pop up often. I think more than anything it is an adult wish list. 

[Hamba Tuhan]

33 minutes ago, smac97 said:

A two-hour block could encourage families and individuals to study the Gospel more, rather than rely exclusively on the three-hour block (that would be my hope, anyway).

Two-thirds of all adults in the Church are single. As one of those, I can say that I highly value having a formal opportunity to study/discuss the gospel with others each week.

[Hamba Tuhan]

19 minutes ago, Bill "Papa" Lee said:

I think more than anything it is an adult wish list. 

Not this adult...

[bluebell]

I don’t want to give up SS altogether, but I do want it to be way different than it is now. 

[JAHS]

2 hours ago, smac97 said:

As an alternative to item B, we could keep the number of units per building as-is, but encourage members to stay for what would have been the third hour to mingle with each other and strengthen friendships.

I know of other churches that do this. After they have their service they have  a visiting hour afterwards and have coffee and cakes and mingle.  We could do something besides coffee.

[bsjkki]

Would this make people more willing to serve in Primary or less...hmmm. (I'm sorry to say a lot of Primary teachers do not enjoy their calling.)

[Hamba Tuhan]

3 minutes ago, JAHS said:

I know of other churches that do this. After they have their service they have  a visiting hour afterwards and have coffee and cakes and mingle.

One of the wards I served in as a missionary met from 3pm till 6pm each Sunday (five units in the building) and had a ward dinner literally every week after church ended. Another ward that I served in covered a huge geographical area, and we pretty much all spent an hour socialising after church each week informally.

My current ward has a formal 'visiting hour' once a month with food (we call it our 'second Sunday social'), but we're the kind of people who tend to hang around after church together anyway.

[Hamba Tuhan]

3 minutes ago, bsjkki said:

I'm sorry to say a lot of Primary teachers do not enjoy their calling.

Interesting. In my ward, primary teacher is considered a plum calling!

[Duncan]

2 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said:

Two-thirds of all adults in the Church are single. As one of those, I can say that I highly value having a formal opportunity to study/discuss the gospel with others each week.

I didn't know you're single!!!!!!!!!!!! I know a single lady in your part of the forest, she's a scouser

Edited July 4, 2018 by Duncan

[Hamba Tuhan]

2 minutes ago, Duncan said:

I know a single lady in your part of the forest ...

I'm an anonymous poster on an internet forum. What makes you think you know my part of the forest?

Quote

... she's a scouser ...

Has she seen a doctor about this?

[Duncan]

4 minutes ago, Hamba Tuhan said:

I'm an anonymous poster on an internet forum. What makes you think you know my part of the forest?

Has she seen a doctor about this?

if you even know what a scouser is.................!

[Hamba Tuhan]

5 minutes ago, Duncan said:

if you even know what a scouser is.................!

It certainly sounds contagious ...

[bsjkki]

 

I have some that love it and some who look like they’re being tortured each week. The men in our ward seem happier in primary than the ladies. A lot of the ladies like going to Relief Society and feel deprived if they are not there. (On the other hand, I am one who views Relief Society as a form of torture.)

Edited July 4, 2018 by bsjkki

[Tacenda]

2 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said:

One of the wards I served in as a missionary met from 3pm till 6pm each Sunday (five units in the building) and had a ward dinner literally every week after church ended. Another ward that I served in covered a huge geographical area, and we pretty much all spent an hour socialising after church each week informally.

My current ward has a formal 'visiting hour' once a month with food (we call it our 'second Sunday social'), but we're the kind of people who tend to hang around after church together anyway.

Oh Hamba, you would have quite the shock to be a member in Utah. I've never heard of any of this happening in church here, no wonder you always have such positive things to say about everything to do with your wards/stakes.

[mfbukowski]

5 hours ago, Prof said:

In another thread, the 2 hour block was brought. Basically, member would attend 2 hours on Sunday in stead of 3. Sacrament and then Priesthood/RS. I was curious about why the Church was considering it. Does anyone know? 

I can see a lot of positives: more time for families, more time for ministering, easier logistics for buildings with multiple units, fewer people called as teachers who could do something else.

I can see some negatives: less time for instruction, especially tough on new converts and investigators.

There are probably other reasons for and against.

Anyone know the Churches reasoning for considering it?

Look at your sacrament meeting attendance- just the adults

Compare it to Gospel Doctrine class.  Look in the hallways- and they are vacant right because all the adults are in Sunday School, transfixed and illuminated by the stimulating lessons?

THAT is the reason.

[Tacenda]

2 hours ago, bsjkki said:

Would this make people more willing to serve in Primary or less...hmmm. (I'm sorry to say a lot of Primary teachers do not enjoy their calling.)

I think the same of RS. But if it were to change back to when the RS had their own curriculum, not the same as the men and we had cultural lessons like before, I could get on board.