Bishop's Satellie Storehouses?

[Duncan]

In our Stake we have this thing of the Bishop's Satellite Storehouse. it's needlessly complicated IMO. So, basically how it works is the RSP or EQP fills out a food order form, it's get's approved by the Bishop, who probably skims it and it gets sent off, in our case to another province and then the Church has this deal with a local grocer's and the Church pays money, to them, to buy all this food. It then gets trucked in. So, then a ministering person and the person that needs it goes and gets it from a local chapel. The chapel gym is twice a month turned into a market. A friend and I and went to pick up goods for a brother in our ward and the Church must have spent a several thousand dollars for all that food and it's twice a month. Then you load it all up in your boot and drop it off at the person's place. it all seems nice but seems peculiar to me and I was wondering if other Stakes do this thing and how it's run there!

Edited May 27, 2018 by Duncan

[Robert F. Smith]

I live in Utah County, and so have access to a bishop's storehouse about 20 min away.  I used to home teach a struggling family that got regular food orders.  So I would take a high school age son from that family with me to the storehouse, fill my car with the food order, and deliver it to the family -- everybody helping to unload it.  Worked very well, and the food was fresh and of high quality.  The sons have since both served missions, the single mother head of household has remarried, and the effort was well worth it.

[Scott Lloyd]

3 minutes ago, Robert F. Smith said:

I live in Utah County, and so have access to a bishop's storehouse about 20 min away.  I used to home teach a struggling family that got regular food orders.  So I would take a high school age son from that family with me to the storehouse, fill my car with the food order, and deliver it to the family -- everybody helping to unload it.  Worked very well, and the food was fresh and of high quality.  The sons have since both served missions, the single mother head of household has remarried, and the effort was well worth it.

I love success stories. 

[rpn]

When I was involved in my area, there were shipments from the storehouse that were delivered, and then the people came to the church at the designated time to pick them up (and often it was someone else delivering to people who couldn't get there.    But for the last few years, it has just been RSP shopping at regular stores for things that aren't available by mail (which some things at distribution now are).

[mfbukowski]

We have a storehouse in LA.

Paperwork gets filled out as usual, and the recipients go to the storehouse and get the stuff. If they can't get it themselves, somebody gets it for them.

It's like a supermarket. 

Sorry it's so hard for others.

Edited May 27, 2018 by mfbukowski

[Kenngo1969]

6 hours ago, mfbukowski said:

We have a storehouse in LA.

Paperwork gets filled out as usual, and the recipients go to the storehouse and get the stuff. If they can't get it themselves, somebody gets it for them.

It's like a supermarket. 

Sorry it's so hard for others.

Dude, I realize that L.A. (note punctuation) is, like, the Center of the Universe, but you don't necessarily want to confuse a Board neophyte (cf. "Nephite," which is, like, a totally different animal ) who may not have gotten that memo.  Such a person might think that you're from, like, Louisiana, or something!   Not that there's anything wrong with Louisiana or with Louisianans, or anything; I talk to some of them on the phone on a fairly regular basis, and many of them are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet (c.f., people from L.A., many of whom are very nice, as well, but some of whom are absolutely convinced that my employer pays me $12 an hour (base) to lick their boots ...  )

Just sayin'!    Party on, Dude!

[Hamba Tuhan]

We don't have storehouses. If a ward member is in need, the RS or EQ president does an evaluation, the bishop approves it, and then an order is placed with one of the local supermarkets that does home delivery.

[Duncan]

8 hours ago, mfbukowski said:

We have a storehouse in LA.

Paperwork gets filled out as usual, and the recipients go to the storehouse and get the stuff. If they can't get it themselves, somebody gets it for them.

It's like a supermarket. 

Sorry it's so hard for others.

them's my sentiments

[bluebell]

I'm in Utah and we have actual Bishop's storehouses here, which are amazing to see and to learn how efficiently they function.  When I was RS president in Bismarck ND, there wasn't a bishop storehouse in the whole state (that i was aware of) and if someone needed food, I bought it for them at Walmart and then delivered it.  We had some pretty strict rules about what the church would and wouldn't pay for.

[Bernard Gui]

When I was serving as bishop, one of our members visited a family that was receiving food from our area storehouse. She complained to the stake president that those people had real butter and she could only afford margarine. The president’s response was that she should remember they are eating at the Savior’s table. That’s why he was the stake president and I was not. My response would have been embarrassingly different.

I also have had good experiences with Deseret Industries supplying goods to our members and meaningful employment to some of our members including one of our sons who was struggling at the time.

Edited May 27, 2018 by Bernard Gui

[Jeanne]

I did not read other's responses okay?  But this seems like the long way to do something that could be easier...instead of going from point A to B..you seem to be going through the whole alphabet.  This is a wonderful thing but there has to be another way?????

[bluebell]

4 hours ago, Jeanne said:

I did not read other's responses okay?  But this seems like the long way to do something that could be easier...instead of going from point A to B..you seem to be going through the whole alphabet.  This is a wonderful thing but there has to be another way?????

How so?  The church's welfare system is one the most efficient in the world.  That's why so many world leaders visit welfare square in SLC.

[Jeanne]

58 minutes ago, bluebell said:

How so?  The church's welfare system is one the most efficient in the world.  That's why so many world leaders visit welfare square in SLC.

I agree about the welfare system..yes..I have had many non mormon friends that were so impressed with how the Church welfare system is done.  In particular, I was speaking to Duncan..thinking that because it isn't easier to do outside Utah..that they could find a process that was easier for them.  I shouldn't have said anything.  It is not all understandable to me. My apologies.

[Duncan]

6 minutes ago, Jeanne said:

I agree about the welfare system..yes..I have had many non mormon friends that were so impressed with how the Church welfare system is done.  In particular, I was speaking to Duncan..thinking that because it isn't easier to do outside Utah..that they could find a process that was easier for them.  I shouldn't have said anything.  It is not all understandable to me. My apologies.

I hear what you're saying, to me, it just seems like how is this system better than people going to the Bishop and requesting assistance and like Bluebell said, going to Wal-mart or wherever and getting food, people need food today not 2 weeks from now! hahahahhahaaha!  The practical part too is for my friend and I and you're supposed to bring the person who needs it there  but he couldn't make it but when you get there there is a volunteer so the 3 of us went around the tables with stuff and picked it all out but one person could have done it and it would get done just as well. I dunno it seemed that for here the two threads in the Church is how can we complicate this yet what is the bare minimum I have to do do get the least amount of work done. I was wondering if this is done elsewhere and how it's administered there

[mfbukowski]

16 minutes ago, Jeanne said:

I agree about the welfare system..yes..I have had many non mormon friends that were so impressed with how the Church welfare system is done.  In particular, I was speaking to Duncan..thinking that because it isn't easier to do outside Utah..that they could find a process that was easier for them.  I shouldn't have said anything.  It is not all understandable to me. My apologies.

Probably what you do not understand is that the church produces much of the food it gives away on farms owned by the church many of which are in Utah,  so the system is less efficient or unrealistic in other places, not to mention much more expensive to buy than produce the food.

Critics often complain about the way the church spends funds because they have no idea how or why it does what it does.

[mfbukowski]

23 hours ago, Duncan said:

In our Stake we have this thing of the Bishop's Satellite Storehouse. it's needlessly complicated IMO. So, basically how it works is the RSP or EQP fills out a food order form, it's get's approved by the Bishop, who probably skims it and it gets sent off, in our case to another province and then the Church has this deal with a local grocer's and the Church pays money, to them, to buy all this food. It then gets trucked in. So, then a ministering person and the person that needs it goes and gets it from a local chapel. The chapel gym is twice a month turned into a market. A friend and I and went to pick up goods for a brother in our ward and the Church must have spent a several thousand dollars for all that food and it's twice a month. Then you load it all up in your boot and drop it off at the person's place. it all seems nice but seems peculiar to me and I was wondering if other Stakes do this thing and how it's run there!

I am sure they have a deal with  a local food distribution company so it is less expensive this way.

Recipients need to plan if they want free food. 

In emergencies bishops can use other funds to get the food quicker and more expensively 

[Duncan]

16 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

I am sure they have a deal with  a local food distribution company so it is less expensive this way.

Recipients need to plan if they want free food. 

In emergencies bishops can use other funds to get the food quicker and more expensively 

it's a local grocer's yes, they have this deal with them and the church pays them and it's all picked up locally. I get the planning but does there really need to be them, me and a volunteer with a cart, I dunno. For us yestarday we didn't bring our person and they didn't say boo about it!!! So, I told his ministering servant don't worry about getting him next time, it doesn't seem to matter

[Calm]

They have multiple people to ensure the system is not taken advantage of.  Volunteer knows what stuff is where and also can keep track of restocking (might not be technically needed with your set up).  Ward rep to ensure the bishop knows what is going on and then the person in need to ensure they get what they need and not useless stuff....from what I have heard reported (husband volunteers at Storehouse)

Edited May 28, 2018 by Calm

[mfbukowski]

48 minutes ago, Calm said:

They have multiple people to ensure the system is not taken advantage of.  Volunteer knows what stuff is where and also can keep track of restocking (might not be technically needed with your set up.  Ward rep to ensure the bishop knows what is going on and then the person in need to ensure they get what they need and not useless stuff....from what I have heard reported (husband volunteers at Storehouse)

Exactly.

It's to assure that the food order doesn't suddenly include a dozen filet mignon that weren't on there originally 

 

[Kenngo1969]

57 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

Exactly.

It's to assure that the food order doesn't suddenly include a dozen filet mignon that weren't on there originally 

 

Dang!  Now I'm hungry!  

[mfbukowski]

3 hours ago, Calm said:

They have multiple people to ensure the system is not taken advantage of.  Volunteer knows what stuff is where and also can keep track of restocking (might not be technically needed with your set up).  Ward rep to ensure the bishop knows what is going on and then the person in need to ensure they get what they need and not useless stuff....from what I have heard reported (husband volunteers at Storehouse)

... like the dozen filet mignon which get sold off the back of a truck...  

Yes, it has happened many times.

[Jeanne]

18 hours ago, mfbukowski said:

Probably what you do not understand is that the church produces much of the food it gives away on farms owned by the church many of which are in Utah,  so the system is less efficient or unrealistic in other places, not to mention much more expensive to buy than produce the food.

Critics often complain about the way the church spends funds because they have no idea how or why it does what it does.

That is not always the critics fault...do ALL of your members really know how all this works.  I  just took this from memory way over 30 years ago.  A jab at critics is not always a nice thing to do..I was a MORMON!

[Garden Girl]

Fellow posters...

I, for one, am incredibly thankful for the Church's welfare system, and the assistance my divorced mom received 74 years ago when I was about 4 years old (a time when divorced women were looked down upon)... in fact thinking about it now I can still see in my mind the big truck, with the pretty Beehive painted on the side, rolling down our long driveway and these two very friendly and polite men jumping down and beginning to carry in boxes of food, and two beautiful quilts...

Our dad had run off and hid where mom couldn't find him for child support.  We lived in a small town... it was during the war and Mom earned what she could by cleaning houses.  We were quite poor and my mom was so grateful to the Church... They brought supplies for several months and helped her find work in a doctor's office.  Things became better.  As soon as she was able to support us she no longer needed assistance.  Mom made our home happy and cheerful, and spotless, including my sis and I... it wasn't until my sis and I were older that we realized just how poor we had actually been.   If it hadn't been for the Church assistance... 

Eventually she married my step-dad, who a few years later became a convert and on Oct 3, 1955 we were sealed as an eternal family in the SLC temple... and here over 70 years since we first needed help, the Church still continues, even worldwide... to help people...

GG