Who loves their job and why?

[Tacenda]

1 hour ago, hagoth7 said:

And just for grins, I took another career quiz this morning.

That quiz's suggestions for me:

Your Interest

"Interests" describe the types of activities that you are drawn to; these will need to be present in a job or career that you are considering if you are to stay motivated. It is important to note that interest in an activity does not necessarily indicate skill.

•  Green (Communicating)

  People with green interests like job responsibilities and occupations that involve persuasion, sales, promotions, and group or personal contact. People with green Interests enjoy activities that include: motivating, mediating, selling, influencing, consensus building, persuading, delegating authority, entertaining, and lobbying. These Interests often lead to work in marketing, advertising, training, therapy, consulting, teaching, law, and public relations.

 

Your Style

"Style" describes the strengths that you could bring to a work environment when you are at your best. This is the way you like to get results. A work environment in which your strengths are appreciated is a big part of career satisfaction.

•  Yellow (ADMINISTRATING)

  People with yellow styles perform their job responsibilities in a manner that is orderly and planned to meet a known schedule. They prefer to work where things get done with a minimum of interpretation and unexpected change. People with a yellow style tend to be orderly, cautious, structured, loyal, systematic, solitary, methodical, and organized, and usually thrive in a research-oriented, predictable, established, controlled, measurable, orderly environment. You will want to choose a work environment or career path in which your style is welcomed and produces results.

 

I need to take this particular test, thank you! Do you have a link! Were there only these two colors? If these are the only ones, I'll decide which one I am. At first glance I'm a mix of both.  Oops, I read your comment over again, it appears these are your two colors, there must be more. I'd like the link or I can do some searching, thanks again!

Edited December 15, 2016 by Tacenda

[hagoth7]

2 hours ago, Tacenda said:

I need to take this particular test, thank you! Do you have a link! Were there only these two colors? If these are the only ones, I'll decide which one I am. At first glance I'm a mix of both.  Oops, I read your comment over again, it appears these are your two colors, there must be more. I'd like the link or I can do some searching, thanks again!

http://www.princetonreview.com/quiz/career-quiz

[waveslider]

2 hours ago, Tacenda said:

Wow, I would love to see your work if I ever get to go to Hawaii again! Have you thought of going online and selling that way? I bet you do beautiful work!

Yeah, I have already opened a business account with Amazon, but I haven't yet utilized it since I have been trying to build up the shop enough to step up production to the point where I can meet the demands. I made a website a long time ago, but it only shows some of my earliest works. I have sent a few things to people in the mainland, so I can always do that until I get the internet marketing up and running. What I produce is much better quality now days. I will be building a better website soon. You can check out the old one if you visit my profile and copy and paste my web address that is listed there, into your browser. It used to have a video of me making my bronzes, but WIX, the site I used to build my website, changed all it's formatting and disabled it until I pay to have them replace it for a new one. You can watch my video here for now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYGk1ixQpHE By the way, as a side note I wrote and recorded the music on the video, in my bedroom and I also edited the video myself. The raw footage was from a friend who came to help me make a video, but he was only able to be there for a limited amount of time so I actually used two different projects to show all the steps in my process of turning my sculptures into bronze since he couldn't wait for the bronze to freeze after pouring it a 2,200 degrees F.

 

[Jeanne]

47 minutes ago, waveslider said:

Yeah, I have already opened a business account with Amazon, but I haven't yet utilized it since I have been trying to build up the shop enough to step up production to the point where I can meet the demands. I made a website a long time ago, but it only shows some of my earliest works. I have sent a few things to people in the mainland, so I can always do that until I get the internet marketing up and running. What I produce is much better quality now days. I will be building a better website soon. You can check out the old one if you visit my profile and copy and paste my web address that is listed there, into your browser. It used to have a video of me making my bronzes, but WIX, the site I used to build my website, changed all it's formatting and disabled it until I pay to have them replace it for a new one. You can watch my video here for now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYGk1ixQpHE By the way, as a side note I wrote and recorded the music on the video, in my bedroom and I also edited the video myself. The raw footage was from a friend who came to help me make a video, but he was only able to be there for a limited amount of time so I actually used two different projects to show all the steps in my process of turning my sculptures into bronze since he couldn't wait for the bronze to freeze after pouring it a 2,200 degrees F.

 

Absolutely fascinating...it you love it..you are rich!!  What talent!

[Tacenda]

4 hours ago, waveslider said:

Yeah, I have already opened a business account with Amazon, but I haven't yet utilized it since I have been trying to build up the shop enough to step up production to the point where I can meet the demands. I made a website a long time ago, but it only shows some of my earliest works. I have sent a few things to people in the mainland, so I can always do that until I get the internet marketing up and running. What I produce is much better quality now days. I will be building a better website soon. You can check out the old one if you visit my profile and copy and paste my web address that is listed there, into your browser. It used to have a video of me making my bronzes, but WIX, the site I used to build my website, changed all it's formatting and disabled it until I pay to have them replace it for a new one. You can watch my video here for now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYGk1ixQpHE By the way, as a side note I wrote and recorded the music on the video, in my bedroom and I also edited the video myself. The raw footage was from a friend who came to help me make a video, but he was only able to be there for a limited amount of time so I actually used two different projects to show all the steps in my process of turning my sculptures into bronze since he couldn't wait for the bronze to freeze after pouring it a 2,200 degrees F.

 

I love the sea turtle, what amazing work. I am way too impatient to do all that you do for each sculpture, no wonder I'm not an artist. 

[Kenngo1969]

My dad forged an entire career based on how cool the uniform looked, breaking into law enforcement with Army Military Police, where he served for 9 years, followed by about 3 years as a Security Police Officer at an Army installation, almost a year as a reserve officer for a local agency, then 30 more years full time with that same agency.  For what that's worth.  

[sunstoned]

On 11/16/2016 at 10:24 AM, bluebell said:

So not true!  I went back and got my degree when i was in my late 30s and I was not the oldest one by far.   One man was in his 60s and he was filling out applications for graduate school the last time i talked to him.  It wasn't weird at all.

I finished my doctorate when I was in my 50's.  The extra education allowed me to move from an industry job (software development) to a university faculty position.  I love teaching, and it is one of the few occupations where age is respected.  I don't think it is ever too late to go back to school.

[Marmonboy]

I could go back to school just for me, if I had piles of money. I don't, and in my field my remaining employable years are dwindling. It just doesn't make sense economically to beat my head against that particular wall again.

[bluebell]

10 hours ago, Marmonboy said:

I could go back to school just for me, if I had piles of money. I don't, and in my field my remaining employable years are dwindling. It just doesn't make sense economically to beat my head against that particular wall again.

You're probably right, but have you looked at grants?

 

[Marmonboy]

I haven't, no. What kind of grants are there for old guys who already have a BA? Besides, there are other issues at play here, which I decline to discuss.

[bluebell]

5 minutes ago, Marmonboy said:

I haven't, no. What kind of grants are there for old guys who already have a BA? Besides, there are other issues at play here, which I decline to discuss.

There are grants specifically for nontraditional graduate students, as well as grants and scholarships that anyone is eligible for.  But you know what is best for your situation.  

[hagoth7]

 

Bluebell said: "There are grants specifically for nontraditional graduate students..."

Never heard of such a thing. I thought grant funding ended once one had an undergraduate degree.

Can you elaborate a bit please?

 

 

[bluebell]

33 minutes ago, hagoth7 said:

 

Bluebell said: "There are grants specifically for nontraditional graduate students..."

Never heard of such a thing. I thought grant funding ended once one had an undergraduate degree.

Can you elaborate a bit please?

 

 

Here's some info-

Student Grants for Graduate School

[Garden Girl]

On 12/17/2016 at 9:22 AM, Marmonboy said:

I haven't, no. What kind of grants are there for old guys who already have a BA? Besides, there are other issues at play here, which I decline to discuss.

Hello Marmonboy...

I always loved my job in the Univ of CA/Cal State systems in CA.  My favorite was eight years as admin asst to the dean of a multi-dept college (research component).  I would help the assoc dean, dean, and some faculty prepare their grant requests to various state and federal agencies, etc.  They received thousands of dollars for their research, including funds for their research assts.  These were all men and women with advanced degrees.   If you attend a Univ, they have a Financial Aid Office that has info on types of grants available, large and small.  Even my husband's company used to give an annual grant to an engineering student... there's grant funds available.  So a stop in the financial aid office would answer your questions.  I had a student asst that funded her education with grants that supplemented her salary.  At the beginning of each year, she'd go to Fin Aid and go through the binders containing info from granting agencies.  Good Luck.

GG

[ERMD]

I would say I love what I do, although it can be a "great and terrible" thing.  I see people at their very worst, but also at their very best.  The days I go toe to toe with The Reaper and come out on top make all the years of study and training worthwhile.  Sometimes The Reaper wins, and it is then that I have to be sure that I did the best that could have been done.  Knowing that is what allows me to sleep at night.

[Kenngo1969]

All of those career quiz/assessment thingies I've ever taken (or at least most all of them) have said I'd make a good lawyer/judge.

[3DOP]

According to my understanding, we should not expect to love our jobs. Work isn't intended to be "another day in paradise." It is about getting kicked out of Eden. It is God's will at the present time that we make the best out of earning our daily bread, but where there is work, it ain't heaven for me, and I don't love work. I accept that work is good and healthy for the body and spirit of my disordered soul (wounds of original sin).

It is a comfort to me that the offspring of Adam is not required to prefer work to rest. I cannot pretend that I like working. I like the weekend better than the weekday. I like vacation better than no vacation. Weekends and vacation are the glimpses of heaven, not the ordinary work day. I prefer leisure to labor and I know that is reasonable. I don't love my work at all. Often, I even hate work. But its okay, I love the hoped for promise of a return to Eden and an eternity of heavenly rest when the day of my work here is finally done.

As I said above, one tries to make the best of earning the daily bread. We try to be cheerful and not depress our neighbors with our mutual dissatisfaction. It seldom happens, but we might even hope to show how the "sweat of the brow" can be understood in a broader context than these fleeting moments of mortality that seem to last so long.

PS: Maybe I'll bring this up sometime in General Discussion where original sin is so disdained because the children cannot be punished for the sins of the parents. Why don't we get our shot at Eden? Why wasn't it just Eve who has pain in childbirth and Adam who has to work by the sweat of his brow or go hungry? I would argue that properly understood, "original sin" falls into the same category as these "punishments", which are obviously extended to the children.

Adam, who fell from "original innocence", naturally lost the ability to pass on what he lost to his offspring. Fathers can only give to the children what they have, not what they lack. "Original sin" is not the presence of something that God imposes on the souls of Adam's children. It is the lack of "original innocence" and all the blessings that would follow from that. I think that is an important distinction that often gets missed in conversations between Mormons and Catholics.

 

 

 

Edited December 29, 2016 by 3DOP

[Stargazer]

On ‎12‎/‎15‎/‎2016 at 2:44 PM, hagoth7 said:

And just for grins, I took another career quiz this morning.

That quiz's suggestions for me:

Your Interest

"Interests" describe the types of activities that you are drawn to; these will need to be present in a job or career that you are considering if you are to stay motivated. It is important to note that interest in an activity does not necessarily indicate skill.

•  Green (Communicating)

  People with green interests like job responsibilities and occupations that involve persuasion, sales, promotions, and group or personal contact. People with green Interests enjoy activities that include: motivating, mediating, selling, influencing, consensus building, persuading, delegating authority, entertaining, and lobbying. These Interests often lead to work in marketing, advertising, training, therapy, consulting, teaching, law, and public relations.

 

Your Style

"Style" describes the strengths that you could bring to a work environment when you are at your best. This is the way you like to get results. A work environment in which your strengths are appreciated is a big part of career satisfaction.

•  Yellow (ADMINISTRATING)

  People with yellow styles perform their job responsibilities in a manner that is orderly and planned to meet a known schedule. They prefer to work where things get done with a minimum of interpretation and unexpected change. People with a yellow style tend to be orderly, cautious, structured, loyal, systematic, solitary, methodical, and organized, and usually thrive in a research-oriented, predictable, established, controlled, measurable, orderly environment. You will want to choose a work environment or career path in which your style is welcomed and produces results.

 

Years and years ago I took an interest survey test at my community college.  This was while I studying to be a computer programmer, but before I had completed my degree.  The interest survey indicated that I might like to be an ECONOMIST!  I was surprised and bemused, since it was something I had never considered, and knew virtually nothing about.  The funny thing is, the computer programming degree requirements included taking a Microeconomics class, and when I later took the class I indeed found it extremely interesting.  I ended up spending the remainder of my working life programming computers, and I loved it, but I've also read a number of economics tomes and greatly enjoyed them.  I think I might have enjoyed being a professional economist.

I'm one of those curious individuals who tends to treat economists as rock stars -- I'm a great fan of Milton Friedman, Thomas Sowell and Friedrich Hayek. 

Not that anyone is asking for it, here's a list of my recommended books on economics:

• Jane Jacobs - The Economy of Cities
• Milton Friedman - Free to Choose
• Thomas Sowell - Basic Economics
• Friedrich Hayek - The Road to Serfdom

I don't know how I happened upon Jane Jacobs, who isn't a credentialed economist but who wrote a lot about the subject. Her book The Economy of Cities caught my attention and I found it very interesting.  I read it about thirty years ago.

[Garden Girl]

I had a very enjoyable 30-year career with the California University systems... the first 16 years at Univ of CA at Riverside... 8 of which were my favorite as part of the Coll of Bio-Ag Sciences as admin asst to the dean of the Coll and Director of the Agric Experiment Station... I loved my job, and the research that took place as  part of the Station... I could have stayed for years and hated to leave when a career change for my husband took us to San Francisco... but, I was fortunate to transfer to the Cal State Univ system (San Fran St Univ) for the next 14 years... I loved the different aspects of the academic world that I experienced with my work... from a wide variety of scientific research... to the Univ library at SFSU... really good years...

GG

[Kenngo1969]

9 minutes ago, Garden Girl said:

I had a very enjoyable 30-year career with the California University systems... the first 16 years at Univ of CA at Riverside... 8 of which were my favorite as part of the Coll of Bio-Ag Sciences as admin asst to the dean of the Coll and Director of the Agric Experiment Station... I loved my job, and the research that took place as  part of the Station... I could have stayed for years and hated to leave when a career change for my husband took us to San Francisco... but, I was fortunate to transfer to the Cal State Univ system (San Fran St Univ) for the next 14 years... I loved the different aspects of the academic world that I experienced with my work... from a wide variety of scientific research... to the Univ library at SFSU... really good years...

GG

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[katherine the great]

Kinda late in the conversation but I love my job!  Well, I love one of my jobs.  I love teaching at community college, but I don't so much love teaching at the university.  Oh, almost forgot to add the why: community college = small classes and engaged students while university = mega lecture classes and many students who simply should not be in college. 

Edited January 9, 2017 by katherine the great

[Kenngo1969]

6 hours ago, katherine the great said:

Kinda late in the conversation but I love my job!  Well, I love one of my jobs.  I love teaching at community college, but I don't so much love teaching at the university.  Oh, almost forgot to add the why: community college = small classes and engaged students while university = mega lecture classes and many students who simply should not be in college. 

I can probably guess reasonably accurately, based on what (admittedly little information) I know about your background, but, what subject(s) do you teach, if you don't mind sharing?  

[sb1]

I actually really love my job. I'm an analyst for the government and I basically read all day long. It's sometimes boring stuff, but often very interesting. As a bonus, since I saw some of the discussion regarding how to pay for university later in life or while you're working, my job actually pays for their employees to earn higher degrees (and even second or third undergrad degrees). There is a catch that you have to work for them for 2 years for every year they pay for your education.

I used to have a really crumby job that paid very well but that just burned me out on so many levels. I'm glad I made the move. 

[The Nehor]

On 12/28/2016 at 10:31 PM, 3DOP said:

According to my understanding, we should not expect to love our jobs. Work isn't intended to be "another day in paradise." It is about getting kicked out of Eden. It is God's will at the present time that we make the best out of earning our daily bread, but where there is work, it ain't heaven for me, and I don't love work. I accept that work is good and healthy for the body and spirit of my disordered soul (wounds of original sin).

It is a comfort to me that the offspring of Adam is not required to prefer work to rest. I cannot pretend that I like working. I like the weekend better than the weekday. I like vacation better than no vacation. Weekends and vacation are the glimpses of heaven, not the ordinary work day. I prefer leisure to labor and I know that is reasonable. I don't love my work at all. Often, I even hate work. But its okay, I love the hoped for promise of a return to Eden and an eternity of heavenly rest when the day of my work here is finally done.

As I said above, one tries to make the best of earning the daily bread. We try to be cheerful and not depress our neighbors with our mutual dissatisfaction. It seldom happens, but we might even hope to show how the "sweat of the brow" can be understood in a broader context than these fleeting moments of mortality that seem to last so long.

PS: Maybe I'll bring this up sometime in General Discussion where original sin is so disdained because the children cannot be punished for the sins of the parents. Why don't we get our shot at Eden? Why wasn't it just Eve who has pain in childbirth and Adam who has to work by the sweat of his brow or go hungry? I would argue that properly understood, "original sin" falls into the same category as these "punishments", which are obviously extended to the children.

Adam, who fell from "original innocence", naturally lost the ability to pass on what he lost to his offspring. Fathers can only give to the children what they have, not what they lack. "Original sin" is not the presence of something that God imposes on the souls of Adam's children. It is the lack of "original innocence" and all the blessings that would follow from that. I think that is an important distinction that often gets missed in conversations between Mormons and Catholics.

This is probably right. I know there are things to do in heaven but the drudgery and uncertainty of it all are gone.

On the bright side if I never marry I can probably retire at around 50 the way things are going.

[Tacenda]

2 hours ago, The Nehor said:

This is probably right. I know there are things to do in heaven but the drudgery and uncertainty of it all are gone.

On the bright side if I never marry I can probably retire at around 50 the way things are going.

Have you thought of taking a community cooking class or Harmon's has those cooking classes. I think it might be a good place to meet women.