Guest Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 2 hours ago, CountryBoy said: you've seen it all? Ever seen an autopsy? Tornado? Hurricane? Gunshot wound? Crushed skull? The Black Forest in Germany? The Mayan Ruins? Just curious / I have seen all but one...Mayan Ruins.
Duncan Posted May 19, 2016 Author Posted May 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Storm Rider said: So I take it that you and others think that it is better to buy from anyone else except a LDS. Is that your position? Why do you think buying oil from your local grocery store is better than from an entrepreneur who happens to be LDS? If you don't want to buy from an individual then don't. Is there a problem? Am I missing something so deep that my simple mind cannot grasp it? oil is oil and besides of which I am not ordering something i can buy from across the street. I am not buying any but if others want to then have at it, I won't stop you. I just don't see the advantage of the product
Duncan Posted May 19, 2016 Author Posted May 19, 2016 1 hour ago, CountryBoy said: I was well-rounded once....I lost 90 pounds....:) round is a shape! 1
Storm Rider Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 17 minutes ago, Duncan said: oil is oil and besides of which I am not ordering something i can buy from across the street. I am not buying any but if others want to then have at it, I won't stop you. I just don't see the advantage of the product Some people shop at Nordstrom and some people shop at Walmart. You cannot see the advantage from buying from one or the other? It sounds more like something else is going on other than you don't like that some people may buy from this location rather than your chosen location. The thing about life is you get to choose. How about you choosing without denigrating what someone else does or what someone else chooses? Does that make sense? For the record, this product or website is not something I would use. However, I find it the strange that some people go out of their path of tolerance and inclusiveness to condemn this choice. It is easy, you don't want it, don't buy it. Why expend the effort to denigrate it? 1
Duncan Posted May 19, 2016 Author Posted May 19, 2016 21 minutes ago, Storm Rider said: Some people shop at Nordstrom and some people shop at Walmart. You cannot see the advantage from buying from one or the other? It sounds more like something else is going on other than you don't like that some people may buy from this location rather than your chosen location. The thing about life is you get to choose. How about you choosing without denigrating what someone else does or what someone else chooses? Does that make sense? For the record, this product or website is not something I would use. However, I find it the strange that some people go out of their path of tolerance and inclusiveness to condemn this choice. It is easy, you don't want it, don't buy it. Why expend the effort to denigrate it? I am not denigrating it , I think it's unecessary is all. I just buy a little bottle of oil from Co-Op, but I wouldn't buy it from the Princess Poo-Bah Palace of Oil or anything 1
Storm Rider Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 20 minutes ago, Duncan said: I am not denigrating it , I think it's unecessary is all. I just buy a little bottle of oil from Co-Op, but I wouldn't buy it from the Princess Poo-Bah Palace of Oil or anything Good for you. I am glad for you. Allow that same freedom to someone else that may like the convenience of ordering from this site or any other site. What is the problem with that? Denigrate is defined as to make (something) seem less important or valuable. Yup, let's be honest. If you weren't denigrating it then you just bought a $1,000 of oil from the same site. Duncan, you are better than this.
Duncan Posted May 19, 2016 Author Posted May 19, 2016 Just now, Storm Rider said: Good for you. I am glad for you. Allow that same freedom to someone else that may like the convenience of ordering from this site or any other site. What is the problem with that? Denigrate is defined as to make (something) seem less important or valuable. Yup, let's be honest. If you weren't denigrating it then you just bought a $1,000 of oil from the same site. Duncan, you are better than this.
sunstoned Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 11 hours ago, Duncan said: https://myoilvault.com/#gs.SyTU0b0 What do you make of this product? Granted it's unconsecrated oil but still I prayed about it and I think it is okay.
BCSpace Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 11 hours ago, Duncan said: https://myoilvault.com/#gs.SyTU0b0 What do you make of this product? Granted it's unconsecrated oil but still I wouldn't trust that the oil had been properly and authoritatively consecrated so I would do it myself. 1
Tacenda Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Pa Pa said: I have seen all but one...Mayan Ruins. That needs to be your next cruise, minus the health problems.
Ginger Snaps Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, BCSpace said: I wouldn't trust that the oil had been properly and authoritatively consecrated so I would do it myself. Despite the confusing title of this thread and the confusing product description on the website header, it doesn't actually come consecrated. https://myoilvault.com/pages/faqs#gs.rPeK=6Q Poorly designed website all around. It's seriously confusing to market it as "Consecrated Oil" and then say it doesn't come "pre-blessed". ETA: I can see this as a nice convenience product for missionaries or servicemen, especially those going overseas. But for the standard American member, it just seems wasteful. Edited May 19, 2016 by Ginger Snaps 1
BCSpace Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 18 minutes ago, Ginger Snaps said: Despite the confusing title of this thread and the confusing product description on the website header, it doesn't actually come consecrated. https://myoilvault.com/pages/faqs#gs.rPeK=6Q Poorly designed website all around. It's seriously confusing to market it as "Consecrated Oil" and then say it doesn't come "pre-blessed". ETA: I can see this as a nice convenience product for missionaries or servicemen, especially those going overseas. But for the standard American member, it just seems wasteful. I understand. I chose to react to the thread title.
canard78 Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 18 hours ago, Mars said: topic says 'consecrated' original post says 'unconsecrated' please fix. Board nanny... Besides, the website linked to has "LDS Consecrated Oil Packets" as the pager header linked to. Calling it consecrated oil on the website and topic header seems a reasonable way of referencing what is being sold or discussed. It does seem a little crass to have a branded packet of oil to tear open for the occasion and then "follow the instructions on the packet" (including how to give the actual blessing). On the other hand... carrying that vial around on your keychain is a bit of a hassle. I once got frisked at airport security because the silver key-chain vial looked like a bullet. It was my first time flying (flying out on my mission) and I was already intimidated by the security gate process.
canard78 Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 5 hours ago, BCSpace said: I understand. I chose to react to the thread title. You mean you jumped to conclusions? That's not like you BCSpace...
busybee Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, Duncan said: https://myoilvault.com/#gs.SyTU0b0 What do you make of this product? Granted it's unconsecrated oil but still This smacks of 'money changers in the temple' to me. Opportunistic and unnecessary. Edited May 19, 2016 by busybee 2
Mars Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 11 minutes ago, canard78 said: Board nanny... Besides, the website linked to has "LDS Consecrated Oil Packets" as the pager header linked to. Calling it consecrated oil on the website and topic header seems a reasonable way of referencing what is being sold or discussed. It does seem a little crass to have a branded packet of oil to tear open for the occasion and then "follow the instructions on the packet" (including how to give the actual blessing). On the other hand... carrying that vial around on your keychain is a bit of a hassle. I once got frisked at airport security because the silver key-chain vial looked like a bullet. It was my first time flying (flying out on my mission) and I was already intimidated by the security gate process. Oh it is not nannying. 1
Gray Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 16 hours ago, Ahab said: The charge was probably for the oil, not the blessing, I'm guessing. Patriarchal blessings don't involve oil today. Was oil used in the 19th century?
Gray Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 16 hours ago, Pa Pa said: Don't know, but I do not think that would fall under "buying a blessing". Technically it could be, but I think a more accurate way to think of it is paying for the patriarch's time.
jkwilliams Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Gray said: Patriarchal blessings don't involve oil today. Was oil used in the 19th century? Not that I'm aware of.
JLHPROF Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Gray said: Patriarchal blessings don't involve oil today. Was oil used in the 19th century? I don't think so. Anointing is used for specific purposes, none of which are bestowed in a Patriarchal blessing.
Tacenda Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 John Bytheway is promoting it now on his FB page. I'm on the fence about it.
Rain Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 35 minutes ago, Tacenda said: John Bytheway is promoting it now on his FB page. I'm on the fence about it. Is he promoting it or is it an ad that was placed there by a service? I was just on another site when it came up. One of those things where the sevice sees you looked at something, figured you were interested and then keeps placing it here and there.
Tacenda Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rain said: Is he promoting it or is it an ad that was placed there by a service? I was just on another site when it came up. One of those things where the sevice sees you looked at something, figured you were interested and then keeps placing it here and there. He made this public post below, along with the website's photos and info. Hope it's okay I posted it here. "ICYI -- My wife's friend was trying to think of a way to make it easier to carry around consecrated oil, so that you could be ready in case you were asked to give a blessing. He got together with some friends and they invented "Oil Vault." It is the size and thickness of a credit card and fits your wallet. It's a great idea! Take a look at www.myoilvault.com." Edited May 19, 2016 by Tacenda 1
bluebell Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Tacenda said: He made this public post below on FB. Hope it's okay I posted it here. "ICYI -- My wife's friend was trying to think of a way to make it easier to carry around consecrated oil, so that you could be ready in case you were asked to give a blessing. He got together with some friends and they invented "Oil Vault." It is the size and thickness of a credit card and fits your wallet. It's a great idea! Take a look at www.myoilvault.com." Oh man, that will put the nail in the coffin as far as Duncan is concerned. He hates JB! 3
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