Avatar4321 Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Was reading a blog on this by Dr. Peterson earlier. Sorry I don't have a link. Does anyone have more info on this? Edited March 7, 2015 by Avatar4321
bluebell Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson/2015/03/opposing-church-leadership-at-the-next-general-conference.html
smac97 Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson/2015/03/opposing-church-leadership-at-the-next-general-conference.htmlHmm. The commenters at the above link are loosely tying this group to Jeriilyn Hassel Pool, who is affiliated with the Ordain Women group. She is also part of FMH ("Feminist Mormon Housewives") and the "Rational Faith" blog. Some of the comments about her are fairly venomous, which is unfortunate, unproductive, and unbecoming. Thanks, -Smac
tonie Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Hmm. The commenters at the above link are loosely tying this group to Jeriilyn Hassel Pool, who is affiliated with the Ordain Women group. She is also part of FMH ("Feminist Mormon Housewives") and the "Rational Faith" blog. Some of the comments about her are fairly venomous, which is unfortunate, unproductive, and unbecoming. Thanks, -Smac Maybe I missed, but Peterson did not provide a source to the comments. And a google search of the direct quotes, ONLY show his patheos blog as the source. Is there a website or FB page from which Peterson got the quotes? nevermind, after search for several other direct quotes, I discovered the source site is anyopposed .org Edited March 7, 2015 by tonie
mfbukowski Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Old stuff They did that for the ERA also back in the old days for you youngsters. No biggie. They yelled and got ignored Edited March 7, 2015 by mfbukowski 2
mfbukowski Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 I am sure all the Baptists, Catholics, Presbyterians, and a few others in the world would dissent also, they just don't take the time to show up to say so. 1
Bobbieaware Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 I am sure all the Baptists, Catholics, Presbyterians, and a few others in the world would dissent also, they just don't take the time to show up to say so. Dissenters are important. Without them the scriptures would be really, really, really boring.
Avatar4321 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) What's a "bling?"Apparently it's what the autocorrect thinks a blog is Edited March 7, 2015 by Avatar4321
why me Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson/2015/03/opposing-church-leadership-at-the-next-general-conference.htmlFrom the blog: To their credit, the organizers of this protest add that “Participants are to be aware that that this is a peaceful vote and not a disruption of General Conference. Participants are encouraged to dress and behave respectfully due to the sacredness and decorum of the Conference setting. Any indication of violent or malicious intent will be reported to law enforcement authorities.” Dan makes a mistake in the above post. Those who wish to organize this protest are doing so for media attention. They would love a protest that gets noticed. However, they need to cloak their actions with above 'mormonisms'. However, they do not want a violent protest but they do want a well organized protest and I don't think that they care how the protestors are dressed but they would most llkely get in dressed in mormon stereotypes. Two thousand people raising their hand by not sustaining the leadership is not behaving respectively nor are these people who are requested to request tickets to protest doing so by declaring their intent to the stake leaders etc. 4
mfbukowski Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Dissenters are important. Without them the scriptures would be really, really, really boring.Scriptures are not about entertainment. If you find them boring, don't read them. You are getting nothing out of them. 1
Bobbieaware Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Scriptures are not about entertainment. If you find them boring, don't read them. You are getting nothing out of them. I don't find the scriptures boring because of the dissenters. They're like the bad guys, while the prophets are the good guys. If there were no bad guys, the narrative would be too one dimensional. 1
The Nehor Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 I don't find the scriptures boring because of the dissenters. They're like the bad guys, while the prophets are the good guys. If there were no bad guys, the narrative would be too one dimensional. I try to kick the good guy/bad guy worldview out of my head when reading the scriptures. When I do it is too easy to seem myself on the "good" side and miss the messsage of the scriptures entirely. The prophets do not consider themselves wonderfully good people and I refuse to believe that that is some kind of self-flagellating lie that God winks at. I think they see more clearly what good is. 1
Duncan Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 These people are a bunch of lame-O's, they lost the element of surprise! The key to disobedience is don't volunteer any information! They should have said nothing and just do it!! Now, people are going to be suspicious and this and that and don't these people read GI JOE comic books anymore? 3
why me Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) These people are a bunch of lame-O's, they lost the element of surprise! The key to disobedience is don't volunteer any information! They should have said nothing and just do it!! Now, people are going to be suspicious and this and that and don't these people read GI JOE comic books anymore?Actually, I think that you misunderstood. They are getting just what they wanted: free air time and dan has helped their cause indirectly. It goes like this: develop an idea, make it known to a select group, get people to comment on it through social media, get as many people speaking about it as possible. And hope that the idea works in April and if not april then in October. The point is to keep discension in the social domain to show 'weaker' members that dissent is an alternative and to show disgruntled members that they are not alone. . Edited March 7, 2015 by why me 3
Bobbieaware Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 I try to kick the good guy/bad guy worldview out of my head when reading the scriptures. When I do it is too easy to seem myself on the "good" side and miss the messsage of the scriptures entirely. The prophets do not consider themselves wonderfully good people and I refuse to believe that that is some kind of self-flagellating lie that God winks at. I think they see more clearly what good is.Regardless. It's the dynamic of opposition in all things that makes anything interesting, including the scriptures and life in general, So, of all the "bad guys" in the scriptures, which one do you most identify with?
Bob Crockett Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 There was that guy in the white suit who tried to charge the pulpit in the 1970s. Marchant? And then, several "NO ERA NO" chants during the votes. That reminds me of reading of Brigham Young's efforts to remove one of the MMM participants, William Dame, a stake president. His stake wouldn't sustain his removal so Brigham Young left Dame for another 10 years, but only after Pres. Young gave the stake a tongue-lashing.
Shanky82 Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) The name of the website is anyopposed. I was hesitant to mention or provide a link because I don't want to provide these websites with any more foot traffic than what they already get but someone on this thread already mentioned it. Edited March 7, 2015 by Shanky82
Boanerges Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Old stuffThey did that for the ERA also back in the old days for you youngsters.No biggie. They yelled and got ignored I remember that, and it was in the tabernacle no less - a much cozier venue than the current mega hall. If it is real, nothing will come of it.
mfbukowski Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 The name of the website is anyopposed. I was hesitant to mention or provide a link because I don't want to provide these websites with any more foot traffic than what they already get but someone on this thread already mentioned it.It's not all that easy to even get into conference. Maybe they will forge tickets?
Kenngo1969 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 What's a "bling?" Apparently it's what the autocorrect thinks a blog isI have lots of bling on my blog. Check it out: https://greatgourdini.wordpress.com/. (Sorry. Couldn't resist. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled, on-topic programming following this shameless bit of self-promotion. ) 1
Coreyb Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 One of the guys at the infants on thrones podcasts did a minisode on the ERA era ( ) dissenting votes. It was interesting. I read some comments insinuating that he was behind the effort.http://infantsonthrones.com/any-opposed/
Scott Lloyd Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I am sure all the Baptists, Catholics, Presbyterians, and a few others in the world would dissent also, they just don't take the time to show up to say so. I daresay most of them don't care enough to be regarded as dissenters.
Scott Lloyd Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I don't find the scriptures boring because of the dissenters. They're like the bad guys, while the prophets are the good guys. If there were no bad guys, the narrative would be too one dimensional.I see what bobbieaware is saying. Scriptures teach by means of stories (consider Mormon's frequent use of "and thus we see that ...") and any good story has conflict. 1
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