'garment Survey' On Any Church Statement?

[Tacenda]

Why the world is interested in our underwear is beyond me.

Well, just like Hamba said John Dehlin does. The church also puts itself out there. Not that that's a bad thing.

[Thinking]

Why the world is interested in our underwear is beyond me.

 

Because...80,000 missionaries are trying to convert the world.

[Ham Clam]

'Cause HuffPost needs to be cool and edgy.

[Duncan]

well it that if you ask  10 different Temple Presidents/Matrons/workers you can get ten different answers or advice or whatever! I was told not to put them on the floor but a friend of mine that I have had this discussion with wasn't ever told that that! They were told to wash them seperately from other whites but I wasn't! My Bro wasn't told anything in regards to garments other then to wear them all the time. It's like whoever you get on the day that you are endowed is what you think is the law and what you tend to live by. I don't ever recall being told anything regarding the care and keeping of garments since I was endowed

[Hamba Tuhan]

I was told not to put them on the floor but a friend of mine that I have had this discussion with wasn't ever told that that! ... I don't ever recall being told anything regarding the care and keeping of garments since I was endowed

 

I highly recommend reading the handbook the Church makes available to all members:

 

The garment is sacred and should be treated with respect at all times. Garments should be kept off the floor. They should also be kept clean and mended. After garments are washed, they should not be hung in public areas to dry. Nor should they be displayed or exposed to the view of people who do not understand their significance.

 

Members who have made covenants in the temple should be guided by the Holy Spirit to answer for themselves personal questions about wearing the garment.

Edited February 10, 2015 by Hamba Tuhan

[K-2]

Devery S. Anderson's book The Development of LDS Temple Worship 1846-2000 A Docuentary History, on pg. xl of the introduction, has this:

"According to a Church educator whose brother-in-law was in the Quorum of Twelve Apostles, the quorum once discussed doing away with garments altogether except when inside the temple. The idea originated with Apostle Melvin J. Ballard, according to the second-hand account, whose wife found the garments uncomfortable." (“Conversation with George T. Boyd, July 3, 1986,” Buerger Papers.)

Melvin J. Ballard sounds like a real faith-filled leader. God forbid that his wife should find garments uncomfortable.

[Duncan]

I highly recommend reading the handbook the Church makes available to all members:

 

sounds fine but honestly how many people would even know to read that in relation to the garments? Like if you are told this is what you need to know then why look elsewhere?

[The Nehor]

Devery S. Anderson's book The Development of LDS Temple Worship 1846-2000 A Docuentary History, on pg. xl of the introduction, has this:

"According to a Church educator whose brother-in-law was in the Quorum of Twelve Apostles, the quorum once discussed doing away with garments altogether except when inside the temple. The idea originated with Apostle Melvin J. Ballard, according to the second-hand account, whose wife found the garments uncomfortable." (“Conversation with George T. Boyd, July 3, 1986,” Buerger Papers.)

Melvin J. Ballard sounds like a real faith-filled leader. God forbid that his wife should find garments uncomfortable.

 

I for one encourage this. I was gratified when President Hinckley told us that the Quorum of the Twelve and the First Presidency basically took the Church apart and put it back together again to see if it was all needed. That kind of thing prevents stuff sticking around entirely due to inertia.

 

Also, yeah, can we lose the garments except in the temple?

[Rain]

In 1989 the matron told me and the other sisters in the room that garments go underneath. In around 2009 the matron told my friend and me that that used to be the case, but now it is your choice.

[The Nehor]

Why the world is interested in our underwear is beyond me.

 

I take it as a compliment. I must be very attractive.

[Calm]

Since it has been a slow day on pretty much everything besides Dehlin and SSM, I will post a link to a rather decent imo blog about practical tips for garment care and wear that is long enough to keep those of you tired of the typical two topics busy for a bit of the evening at least.  I've been reading it off and on for the last day or two:

 

http://www.theculturalhallpodcast.com/2012/09/12-practical-tips-for-wearing-lds-temple-garments/

[mfbukowski]

Devery S. Anderson's book The Development of LDS Temple Worship 1846-2000 A Docuentary History, on pg. xl of the introduction, has this:

"According to a Church educator whose brother-in-law was in the Quorum of Twelve Apostles, the quorum once discussed doing away with garments altogether except when inside the temple. The idea originated with Apostle Melvin J. Ballard, according to the second-hand account, whose wife found the garments uncomfortable." (“Conversation with George T. Boyd, July 3, 1986,” Buerger Papers.)

Melvin J. Ballard sounds like a real faith-filled leader. God forbid that his wife should find garments uncomfortable.

Let's see.

 

Anderson

An unnamed church educator

An unnamed brother in law of the unnamed educator who was allegedly an unnamed member of the Q of 12 who allegedly said that the Quorum allegedly "once" discussed "something".

 

And that is a "second hand" account?

 

I am not saying it is not true- just that that is a rather tenuous bit of evidence as presented

[VideoGameJunkie]

Garments are comfortable and I'd feel so weird not wearing them.

[Tacenda]

Since it has been a slow day on pretty much everything besides Dehlin and SSM, I will post a link to a rather decent imo blog about practical tips for garment care and wear that is long enough to keep those of you tired of the typical two topics busy for a bit of the Koop evening at least. I've been reading it off and on for the last day or two:

http://www.theculturalhallpodcast.com/2012/09/12-practical-tips-for-wearing-lds-temple-garments/

Thanks for sharing the blog. It looks like a lot of women suffer while wearing their garments. Glad the church is aware. One of the comments stood out. The woman who spoke to a temple matron privately about her issues and then proceeded to show her how her garments fit. It was an eye opener apparently, that this woman had to wear her garments so ill fitting. Luckily the temple matron knew the guy that designs the garment and he made some changes to the garments eventually. Not sure, but think it was the start of petite sizing, unless I got it mixed up with another comment.