Popular Post smac97 Posted August 26, 2014 Popular Post Posted August 26, 2014 Kate Kelly is at it again: Kate Kelly stands frozen at an empty intersection in Salt Lake City. There is no traffic coming in either direction. "I need to wait for the signal," she says, "I'm obedient, I'm a Mormon." She laughs, her eyes twinkling behind her thick, retro-style glasses. But if Ms Kelly thinks she's an obedient Mormon, her Church leadership does not. She was excommunicated in June for founding a campaign to ordain women to the priesthood. "You know, normally excommunication in our Church is for really grave sins like murder and child abuse," she says. "I was excommunicated for stating a fact, which is that men and women are not equal in our Church." We all know she was not "excommunicated for stating a fact." Unlike other churches, including the Church of England which last month agreed to allow women priests to be promoted to bishop, the LDS Church does not have a professional priesthood. It operates what it calls a "lay" clergy - male members take turns to fulfil the roles. Take the bishop of Ms Kelly's former ward in Virginia - the man who excommunicated her. He is a lawyer for ExxonMobil. And once again Kate Kelly is working to publicize her bishop's employer. I previously asked the OW group to explain why she is publicizing this information, as I suspect she is attempting to engineer a Brendan Eich-type blowback on her bishop. As punishment. Retribution. She is also a lawyer, a human rights lawyer, and she sounds like one as she dissects the process her bishop and other male leaders followed to remove her from the Mormon faith. "We're talking about an Inquisition," she says. "The men who punished me think they are kicking me out of heaven." An "inquisition" which consisted of kindly-worded letters and other communications. Kate Kelly abuses the word when she applies it to her circumstance. It serves as both a baseless calumny against the Church and also a rather perverse form of self-aggrandizement. Ms Kelly was excommunicated for apostasy. Dictionaries define an apostate as someone who renounces their faith. But in Mormonism questioning church teaching and, "especially encouraging other people to take the same position," says Mike Otterson, will qualify someone as an "apostate". ... Ms Kelly says the charge of apostasy was "completely absurd" and she is appealing against the decision. I think we can expect to see her publish her letter to the First Presidency in the near future. It will be interesting to see if she calls them to repentance. Thanks, -Smac 10
The Nehor Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Well, she is now proactively lying. "Wo unto the liar, for (s)he shall be thrust....not peacefully prodded, not passively persuaded, not gently led but thrust down to hell." -Jacob as paraphrased by the Nehor 1
Scott Lloyd Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Kate Kelly is at it again: We all know she was not "excommunicated for stating a fact." And once again Kate Kelly is working to publicize her bishop's employer. I previously asked the OW group to explain why she is publicizing this information, as I suspect she is attempting to engineer a Brendan Eich-type blowback on her bishop. As punishment. Retribution.An "inquisition" which consisted of kindly-worded letters and other communications. Kate Kelly abuses the word when she applies it to her circumstance. It serves as both a baseless calumny against the Church and also a rather perverse form of self-aggrandizement.I think we can expect to see her publish her letter to the First Presidency in the near future. It will be interesting to see if she calls them to repentance.Thanks,-SmacIt's the BBC this time. I guess she's taking her act overseas. It was only a matter of time.
wenglund Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Sadly, the "I'm a victim" scam is a powerful manipulative tool these days, particularly when plied by oily lawyers through a state-run media organization. I've got to say, though, that KK must be making Andy Warhol proud with how feverishly she is working her 15 minutes of fame. Thanks, -Wade Englund- 2
Duncan Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 It's the BBC this time. I guess she's taking her act overseas. It was only a matter of time. well, the British members I know don't take too kindly to Americans telling them how to do things
Scott Lloyd Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 well, the British members I know don't take too kindly to Americans telling them how to do thingsI was just reflecting that it was 50 years ago this year that the Beatles came to America. Now, a half-century later, our export to them is ... Kate Kelly! 2
sethpayne Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 I was just reflecting that it was 50 years ago this year that the Beatles came to America. Now, a half-century later, our export to them is ... Kate Kelly! Well, but let's not forget that British rock was heavily influenced by the export of American Blues -- both Chicago and Southern. John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf etc... In return we've received Zeppelin, Clapton, the Beatles and more. I think the exchange has been a fair one. 2
Bart Burk Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) The media loves to bash organizations that are trying to follow Christ. Edited August 26, 2014 by Bart Burk 1
Duncan Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 I was just reflecting that it was 50 years ago this year that the Beatles came to America. Now, a half-century later, our export to them is ... Kate Kelly! hahhahahhhahhahahahhahahahhaha! well, not quite a fair trade......................!
strappinglad Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 It seems that Ms. Kelly wouldn't know an inquisition if it jumped up and bit her on her ...thick retro-style glasses. 1
ERayR Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 I was just reflecting that it was 50 years ago this year that the Beatles came to America. Now, a half-century later, our export to them is ... Kate Kelly! From my POV it's a fair trade
Popular Post MorningStar Posted August 27, 2014 Popular Post Posted August 27, 2014 Oh look. She's still annoying. 11
Teancum Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 Oh look. She's still annoying. I am actually starting to agree with you on this one. She seems to be enjoying the limelight. Calling what happened an inquisition is ludicrous. Maybe she is taking advantage of the spotlight. She will be a bit more obscure when she goes to Kenya. 3
Hamba Tuhan Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 She will be a bit more obscure when she goes to Kenya. I wouldn't bank on it.
VideoGameJunkie Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 Wouldn't it be interesting if Kate Kelly joined this forum. Someone link her to this site so she can make a thread.
Senator Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 Nah, its funner to talk crap about her and thrust her to hell in her absence.
strappinglad Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) Nice thread! Is this a warp thread or a weft thread? As for the OP, to me, the more she speaks to the media, the more it confirms that the actions by her leaders were necessary and proper. By the way, Senator, you are the only poster that used the phrase' thrust to hell' . Edited August 27, 2014 by strappinglad 1
Senator Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 Is this a warp thread or a weft thread? As for the OP, to me, the more she speaks to the media, the more it confirms that the actions by her leaders were necessary and proper.By the way, Senator, you are the only poster that used the phrase' thrust to hell' .See post #2
strappinglad Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 I stand corrected. Nehor, it's all your fault quoting scripture like that.
The Nehor Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 Nah, its funner to talk crap about her and thrust her to hell in her absence. Agreed. I stand corrected. Nehor, it's all your fault quoting scripture like that. I can't help how spiritual I am. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) Well, but let's not forget that British rock was heavily influenced by the export of American Blues -- both Chicago and Southern. John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf etc... In return we've received Zeppelin, Clapton, the Beatles and more. I think the exchange has been a fair one.You skipped the luminaries of the mid-sixties British Invasion: The Dave Clark Five, Herman's Hermits, the Searchers, Peter and Gordon, Chad and Jeremy, the Rolling Stones, Gerry and the Pacemakers, Petula Clark, Dusty Springfield, Billy J. Kramer and the Dakotas, and more. Edited to add: Freddy and the Dreamers, the Spencer Davis Group, the Animals, Wayne Fontana & the Mindbenders, Manfred Mann, the Fortunes and the Hollies. I know, you're probably too young to remember any of them. Edited further to add: The Kinks, the Zombies, the Yardbirds, the Who and the Moody Blues. Edited August 27, 2014 by Scott Lloyd 2
Storm Rider Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 I am actually starting to agree with you on this one. She seems to be enjoying the limelight. Calling what happened an inquisition is ludicrous. Maybe she is taking advantage of the spotlight. She will be a bit more obscure when she goes to Kenya. She unfortunately has become the type of individual that having her ten seconds of fame now hungers and thirsts for just one more second, any second to regain her perceived importance in the world. She is someone to be pitied because she has lost touch with reality and is firmly in the grasp of anyone/anything but the Holy Spirit. 1
Tacenda Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 She unfortunately has become the type of individual that having her ten seconds of fame now hungers and thirsts for just one more second, any second to regain her perceived importance in the world. She is someone to be pitied because she has lost touch with reality and is firmly in the grasp of anyone/anything but the Holy Spirit.Nah..
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