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A Simple Question For Latter-Day Saint Friends


A Simple Question For Latter-Day Saint Friends  

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  1. 1. Latter-Day Saints, do you have eternal life?

    • Yes
      39
    • No
      4


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Posted

Thanks!

 

Your question lacks context.  Do I have eternal life now?  Will I at some latter time?  Do I need to obey any commandments?  A little more context would be helpful.

Posted

I'll not respond to the poll, because it's a simplistic "are-you-still-beating-your-wife" kind of question.

 

But I will answer here.

 

My answer is, "Yes, with conditions."

Posted (edited)

I object to the incorrect capitalization of the word day in the poll: "Latter-Day Saints."  It's hyphenated, so it remains lower case.

 

Wasn't there a conference talk about that this weekend? ;)

Edited by MiserereNobis
Posted

Hi Friends,

 

There is only one "eternal life" in my theology and in LDS theology, so this question should be very simple.  Do you have eternal life (today, right now) or not?  I'm not telling you what you believe or how you choose to define "eternal life", nor do i wish to judge anyone for their opinions.

 

Thanks!

FLDS

Posted (edited)

No, because no judgment has happened and I am still living this mortal life.

 

On a preemptive note:

There is no such thing as eternal security, in the sense that once I accept Jesus I can do nothing of my self to lose salvation.

Edited by Mola Ram Suda Ram
Posted

Hi Friends,

 

There is only one "eternal life" in my theology and in LDS theology, so this question should be very simple.  Do you have eternal life (today, right now) or not?  I'm not telling you what you believe or how you choose to define "eternal life", nor do i wish to judge anyone for their opinions.

 

Thanks!

FLDS

I think you are trying to exclude us by definition. It's an old trick. It won't work.

Posted (edited)

The Latter-day Saints believe they are saved but don't go around boasting that they have already obtained the fullness of all the Lord's eternal blessings promised to the faithful who overcome the world. Instead, we follow the admonition and example of the Apostle Paul who said:

12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 3)

 

A better question would be  -- "do the Latter-day Saints believe they have been saved?"

 

Edited by teddyaware
Posted

Hi Friends,

 

There is only one "eternal life" in my theology and in LDS theology, so this question should be very simple.  Do you have eternal life (today, right now) or not?  I'm not telling you what you believe or how you choose to define "eternal life", nor do i wish to judge anyone for their opinions.

 

Thanks!

FLDS

 

Without you defining what you mean by eternal life you are asking a loaded question.  Looking for a few "gotchas" are you?

Posted

I'm not even sure the question is grammatically correct. On that basis I can't, in good conscience, answer it.

(Can someone help me out? Is it correct grammar or not? I keep thinking it might be but then change my mind.)

Posted

No tricks, no gimmicks, no gotchas and you're not "boasting" because the poll is anonymous.

 

Just want to see who on this site believes they have eternal life.

 

So far, 4 "yes" and 1 "no".  Thanks to those who have voted so far...

 

FLDS

Posted

No tricks, no gimmicks, no gotchas and you're not "boasting" because the poll is anonymous.

 

Just want to see who on this site believes they have eternal life.

 

So far, 4 "yes" and 1 "no".  Thanks to those who have voted so far...

 

FLDS

How long before you spring your trap?

Posted

No tricks, no gimmicks, no gotchas and you're not "boasting" because the poll is anonymous.

 

Just want to see who on this site believes they have eternal life.

 

So far, 4 "yes" and 1 "no".  Thanks to those who have voted so far...

 

FLDS

Once again, please explain better what you are asking.  Eternal life right now?  At some future date?  What type of life are you meaning by eternal life?  Is it this eternal life how I would define it?  How do you define eternal life?

Posted (edited)

No tricks, no gimmicks, no gotchas and you're not "boasting" because the poll is anonymous.

 

Just want to see who on this site believes they have eternal life.

 

So far, 4 "yes" and 1 "no".  Thanks to those who have voted so far...

 

FLDS

I just voted. So now I ask if you would kindly review post #12 and explain, according to your own understanding, what it is Paul was teaching those already believing and committed Philippian Christians.

Edited by teddyaware
Posted

Everyone seems worried you might spring a "hah! Gotcha!" on us if we say yes.

 

Well, I am perfectly comfortable saying "Yes", in my religion I believe I have eternal life.

 

Spring away.

Posted

Everyone seems worried you might spring a "hah! Gotcha!" on us if we say yes.

 

Well, I am perfectly comfortable saying "Yes", in my religion I believe I have eternal life.

 

Spring away.

 

I am not worried I just don't feel like playing his/her childish games.

Posted (edited)

Hi Friends,

There is only one "eternal life" in my theology and in LDS theology, so this question should be very simple. Do you have eternal life (today, right now) or not? I'm not telling you what you believe or how you choose to define "eternal life", nor do i wish to judge anyone for their opinions.

T

Thanks!

FLDS

Still at it Mark...

Here are those who have eternal life

John 17: 3 (if memory serves)

"For this is life eternal, that they might know Thee, and Jesus Christ whom thou hath sent".

So yes, I have "Eternal Life" right now.

Edited by Bill “Papa” Lee
Posted

Teddyaware, while I can appreciate your personal observation, I would say that Paul had not "already attained" that which is mentioned in the previous verse and not "eternal life" (just my opinion).

 

ksfisher, I'm not sure how else to ask but "Do you believe that you have "eternal life" right this very second?" 

 

No "traps", I respect your points of view on this topic.

 

Thanks for any honest feedback out there!

FLDS

Posted (edited)

While I teased with my last poll I posted.  Here's my real answer... no.  And I would think most believers [ETA: LDS that is] should say "not yet".
 
Here's "Eternal Life" form LDS.org and I see no definition of that word where we could "have eternal life" currently.
 
https://www.lds.org/topics/eternal-life?lang=eng&query=eternal+life
 

Eternal life is the phrase used in scripture to define the quality of life that our Eternal Father lives. The Lord declared, “This is my work and my glory—to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man” (Moses 1:39). Immortality is to live forever as a resurrected being. Through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, everyone will receive this gift. Eternal life, or exaltation, is to live in God's presence and to continue as families (see D&C 131:1–4). Like immortality, this gift is made possible through the Atonement of Jesus Christ. However, to inherit eternal life requires our “obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel” (Articles of Faith 1:3).

Additional Information
When we are baptized and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, we enter the path that leads to eternal life. The prophet Nephi taught:
“The gate by which ye should enter is repentance and baptism by water; and then cometh a remission of your sins by fire and by the Holy Ghost.
”And then are ye in this strait and narrow path which leads to eternal life; yea, ye have entered in by the gate; ye have done according to the commandments of the Father and the Son; and ye have received the Holy Ghost, which witnesses of the Father and the Son, unto the fulfilling of the promise which he hath made, that if ye entered in by the way ye should receive“ (2 Nephi 31:17-18).
Nephi emphasized that after we have entered this ”strait and narrow path,“ we must endure to the end in faith:

”After ye have gotten into this strait and narrow path, I would ask if all is done? Behold, I say unto you, Nay; for ye have not come thus far save it were by the word of Christ with unshaken faith in him, relying wholly upon the merits of him who is mighty to save.


“Wherefore, ye must press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope, and a love of God and of all men. Wherefore, if ye shall press forward, feasting upon the word of Christ, and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father: Ye shall have eternal life” (2 Nephi 31:19-20).


After we are baptized and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, much of our progress toward eternal life depends on our receiving other ordinances of salvation: for men, ordination to the Melchizedek Priesthood; for men and women, the temple endowment and marriage sealing. When we receive these ordinances and keep the covenants that accompany them, we prepare ourselves to inherit eternal life.


 Everything indicates that any mortal alive on this earth right now does not currently "have eternal life" if we are going by the LDS definition of eternal life.

Edited by Brian 2.0
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