cinepro Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Last Saturday evening, our Stake had a meeting for married couples where we were promised to hear speakers that would tell us how to strengthen our marriages. While I generally dislike Saturday evening meetings, I'm not one to pass up on a cheap date, so I was glad to attend, not expecting much. At the very least, I can promise you I was not bored! The meeting, under the guidance of the Stake President (who said we might have to re-dedicate the chapel afterwards), consisted of a talk by a married couple who do marriage counseling, an LDS OB/GYN, and the SP himself. While at least 50% of the remarks involved cliches about marriages and innuendo (if there were any couples in attendance where the wife had a stronger sex drive than the husband, their situation was not addressed or acknowledged), there was plenty to keep everyone interested. Certainly, I would venture a guess it was the first time the words "orgasm", "sexual lubricant" and "Viagra" were used over the pulpit in that building. They also showed a couple YouTube videos that were pretty funny: Can't find the other one, but it was a comedian joking about the supposed decline in men's sexual desire after the age of 18. It was the first Church meeting I've been to in years where no one was on their cell phone and everyone was paying attention. 2
omni Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Our leaders are finally getting it on how to increase attendance. Maybe your SP can get a hold of my SP to liven things up a little.
BCSpace Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 We had meetings like this as youth in the 1980's. For example, as a youth council we asked for married couples to speak on marriage relationships including sexual and we got them. Obviously they didn't go into mechanical detail, but we were always taught that sex within marriage is good and that we should look forward to it.
Tacenda Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) We had meetings like this as youth in the 1980's. For example, as a youth council we asked for married couples to speak on marriage relationships including sexual and we got them. Obviously they didn't go into mechanical detail, but we were always taught that sex within marriage is good and that we should look forward to it.I remember a conversation with my sister-in- laws once. One of them discussed howgood her and her husband's sex life was. I was shocked, I just don't talk about these things in public. She and her husband are very orthodox LDS. They have served as mission presidents, served another mission and now currently are temple presidents. (Can I say presidents if it includes the wife?) Edited March 10, 2014 by Tacenda
cinepro Posted March 10, 2014 Author Posted March 10, 2014 So, what questions did you ask? The OB/GYN had spoken to different Relief Society groups in the Stake over the years, and I guess he allowed them to write down questions that he would answer. He told us he would share some with us, but he ran out of time.
Damien the Leper Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 I remember when the phrase "Stay moral...go oral" was said by the Bishop in a joint EQ and RS meeting. I wanted to laugh so hard because I had never heard something like that said before from the pulpit. I refrained from laughing because many of the congregation looked as though they were going to have full blown meltdowns.
halconero Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Awesome. Vaginal intercourse is talked about in the Garden of Eden, and by Jesus Christ. It should be talked about in Church.I remember advice from my mission president and advice that a healthy sexual relationship is a pillar of a strong marriage and in exaltation.Edit: It's been only 4 minutes and I have a PM decrying me for "coarse language." I would respond in private to say, but to preempt any other messages all I'll say is go read the Chastity chapter in the Gospel Principles manual. Use the proper words, folks, we're all adults here. Edited March 10, 2014 by halconero 2
BookofMormonLuvr Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 I remember a conversation with my sister-in- laws once. One of them discussed howgood her and her husband's sex life was. I was shocked, I just don't talk about these things in public. She and her husband are very orthodox LDS. They have served as mission presidents, served another mission and now currently are temple presidents. (Can I say presidents if it includes the wife?) Are they from WA State by any chance?
Tacenda Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Are they from WA State by any chance?No, they're from Utah!
mtomm Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Perhaps those of us that won't get to attend such a meeting can benefit from this article. I'm sure that most here would take umbrage with the last point but the rest of it seems to be quite useful. 12 things that impact your sexual satisfaction
Duncan Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) Awesome. Vaginal intercourse is talked about in the Garden of Eden, and by Jesus Christ. It should be talked about in Church.I remember advice from my mission president and advice that a healthy sexual relationship is a pillar of a strong marriage and in exaltation.Edit: It's been only 4 minutes and I have a PM decrying me for "coarse language." I would respond in private to say, but to preempt any other messages all I'll say is go read the Chastity chapter in the Gospel Principles manual. Use the proper words, folks, we're all adults here. oh man! the most vulgar expressions I have ever heard over the pulpit were made by a AA70 from S. Alberta and our Stake President in a adult member fireside a few years and a stake Priesthood Mtg from kinda around the same time Edited March 11, 2014 by Duncan
MorningStar Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Awesome. Vaginal intercourse is talked about in the Garden of Eden, and by Jesus Christ. It should be talked about in Church. Chapters and verses?
NEDRA Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) I remember when the phrase "Stay moral...go oral" was said by the Bishop in a joint EQ and RS meeting. I wanted to laugh so hard because I had never heard something like that said before from the pulpit. I refrained from laughing because many of the congregation looked as though they were going to have full blown meltdowns.I've heard this in church, but only as an example how NOT to be be chaste or moral. What could your bishop possibly have meant? Among single people, that phrase means to go ahead and have oral sex so you'll still technically be within the bounds of chastity. Of course, that is not correct. Among married people, in what would "going oral" have anything to do with being moral, at all? Edited March 11, 2014 by NEDRA 1
halconero Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) Chapters and verses? Genesis 2: 24 - Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Mark 10: 8 - And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. Of course, these can also refer to the uniting of couples in other forms, but the original manuscripts also imply sexual intercourse between man and woman. This can be seen in Paul's use of the scriptures: 1 Corinthians 6: 15-16 - Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. Edit: Also, it was known from ancient times that the scriptures speak approvingly of the consumption of celery as a strengthener of marriage. Edited March 11, 2014 by halconero 1
Damien the Leper Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 I've heard this in church, but only as an example how NOT to be be chaste or moral. What could your bishop possibly have meant? Among single people, that phrase means to go ahead and have oral sex so you'll still technically be within the bounds of chastity. Of course, that is not correct. Among married people, in what would "going oral" have anything to do with being moral, at all? Apologies. He was discussing the rationalization used by teens, young adults and adults. He discussed the fallacies of the perspective.
mfbukowski Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 We had meetings like this as youth in the 1980's. For example, as a youth council we asked for married couples to speak on marriage relationships including sexual and we got them. Obviously they didn't go into mechanical detail, but we were always taught that sex within marriage is good and that we should look forward to it.Golly I guess I must be a genius. I didn't even need to be taught to look forward to having sex
mfbukowski Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Apologies. He was discussing the rationalization used by teens, young adults and adults. He discussed the fallacies of the perspective.LOLOh. That's very different. Nevermind.
busybee Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) I think we can do better at educating our members on sexuality within an LDS context. We are taught that sex is wrong and then expected to change that mindset immediately we get married. There is a very real problem with Good Girl/Boy Syndrome in married LDS couples. I think meetings like this are great. I think couples who are GETTING married should have these kind of informative meetings to help them understand that sex is a wonderful blessing in a marriage. In fact, the youth need to be taught this as well. Of course we need to teach the Law of Chastity, but we keep the law because it is God's law, not because sex is "bad". The list of things that impact sexual satisfaction is dead on. Even no.12. That doesn't in any way imply that I think the Law of Chastity is damaging, just HOW we teach it can sometimes cause difficulties in achieving true intimacy as God intended. Edited March 13, 2014 by busybee 2
jaxenro Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 I'm not sure I see the purpose of this but lots of these things baffle me
Bikeemikey Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Cos it's fun!Also divorce rate is massively lower in marriages that report high sexual satisfaction! Edited March 16, 2014 by Bikeemikey
jaxenro Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 Must be a different dynamic for those that grow up in the church. Sometimes you all seem a little sheltered
maxrep12 Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/article-77-14666-lets-talk-about-(mormon)-sex.htmlhttp://mormonstories.org/natasha-parker/The two women in the above links do a great job discussing sex and intimacy with lds members. The culture and teaching structure of the church are still far behind in meeting these very real needs of its members.
Calm Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/article-77-14666-lets-talk-about-(mormon)-sex.htmlhttp://mormonstories.org/natasha-parker/The two women in the above links do a great job discussing sex and intimacy with lds members. The culture and teaching structure of the church are still far behind in meeting these very real needs of its members.However, not all they teach is in alignment with LDS teaching on the matter.
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