MorningStar Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 I couldn't even stand that kind of voice when I was a kid. 2
Stargazer Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 I couldn't even stand that kind of voice when I was a kid. What I can't stand is people who end every sentence with a rising tone, even if it isn't a question. 2
Hamba Tuhan Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 What I can't stand is people who end every sentence with a rising tone, even if it isn't a question. I recommend not holidaying in Australia then. 1
Storm Rider Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 The criticisms of the sing-song intonation is the main reason I cannot listen to President Monson. He comes across, to me personally, as a throwback on the vaudeville acts of yesteryear. It is fingernails on a chalkboard for me and I often feel guilty for having this feelings, but it is what it is. 1
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Ah, is that why she sounds like a real person? Realy? So the old sterotype of Utah rears it's head again. Women from SLC are not "real" people. I actually find this some what offensive. But since I am who I am I take no offense. Carry on.
Stone holm Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Realy? So the old sterotype of Utah rears it's head again. Women from SLC are not "real" people. I actually find this some what offensive. But since I am who I am I take no offense. Carry on. Lol...how about real people living in a bubble is that less offensive?....didn't think so. Its not all people in Utah....and its not they are not real, its just that its a different reality...many would say a better reality, which I would not dispute...well in some cases I would....but...oh well, sigh...
Scott Lloyd Posted October 7, 2013 Author Posted October 7, 2013 After thinking about it, I realized what I liked best about Sister Oscarson's delivery was that she wasn't all smiley. For some reason, women who do that really put me on edge. Maybe they are trying to hard?Her talk was good, too.As much as I have lauded Sister Oscarson for her talk -- delivery and all -- she did strike me as a bit nervous -- understandably and forgiveably so. Which leads me to the thought that the women who come across as excessively smiley at the pulpit might be smiling a lot to mask their own nervousness. So I think we need to be a bit more patient in how we regard general conference speakers, women and men, and view them as fellow Latter-day Saints who, like most of us, are trying to do their best in a situation that can be more than a little frightening. 1
rpn Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Why are we criticizing the way people who are no doubt trying their best to do what they are asked to do? We don't like the voice someone uses? So pray to hear His voice in the delivery instead, and for control of our own tongues and hearts for noticing and commenting? 4
volgadon Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Why are we criticizing the way people who are no doubt trying their best to do what they are asked to do? We don't like the voice someone uses? So pray to hear His voice in the delivery instead, and for control of our own tongues and hearts for noticing and commenting? The message is fine, it is the affectations used in delivery that get in the way.
Tacenda Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 The criticisms of the sing-song intonation is the main reason I cannot listen to President Monson. He comes across, to me personally, as a throwback on the vaudeville acts of yesteryear. It is fingernails on a chalkboard for me and I often feel guilty for having this feelings, but it is what it is.Yesterday while he was sharing about missing his wife, it sounded normal and from the heart, not performed.
Scott Lloyd Posted October 7, 2013 Author Posted October 7, 2013 What I can't stand is people who end every sentence with a rising tone, even if it isn't a question.I share your annoyance, but the rising intonation in which declarative sentences are made to sound like questions is characteristic of the younger generations in our society more so than it is of general conference speakers.
Calm Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 The message is fine, it is the affectations used in delivery that get in the way.I find it easy to forgive anyone who has the nerve to get up in front of a camera and trying to reach out in a way that conveys their sincerity and desire to teach and reach and reassure and scold and everything else all at once....especially those who would never in a million years do it for any other reason than to fulfill a calling from the Lord. That some might have developed some camouflage to help them get through it is hardly surprising. If it sounds annoying to me, I generally just express gratitude that it is not my job to do so and find something to occupy that part of my brain that is having a negative reaction enough so I can listen to the actual message. 2
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Lol...how about real people living in a bubble is that less offensive?....didn't think so. Its not all people in Utah....and its not they are not real, its just that its a different reality...many would say a better reality, which I would not dispute...well in some cases I would....but...oh well, sigh...It could be offensive when you talk smack dude and you use it as a pejoritive. There are no real bubbles in utah any more than there is a bubble in CA or WV. So w/e
Calm Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 There are no real bubbles in utah any more Unfortunately this is true as the bubble bottle was dropped and all the bubbles drained out into the grass....but that didn't stop my 1 year old granddaughter from walking around the house blowing bubbles all afternoon anyway...apparently she could see them just fine because she got big smilies on her face and got royally ticked off when we asked if we could have the bottle so we could make more bubbles for her. Sometimes people prefer their imaginary bubbles to the real thing. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted October 7, 2013 Author Posted October 7, 2013 Unfortunately this is true as the bubble bottle was dropped and all the bubbles drained out into the grass....but that didn't stop my 1 year old granddaughter from walking around the house blowing bubbles all afternoon anyway...apparently she could see them just fine because she got big smilies on her face and got royally ticked off when we asked if we could have the bottle so we could make more bubbles for her. Sometimes people prefer their imaginary bubbles to the real thing.Deft.
Kenngo1969 Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 I recommend not holidaying in Australia then.Eh?
Hamba Tuhan Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Eh? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPIeOezvLgo
danieldemol Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Right, but I immediately noticed (and someone else in the room commented) that she didn't use the "sing-song" voice that most other women speakers seem to use, as if they were talking to five-year-olds. So that was nice.I know a gentleman who speaks like that to adults. Whenever he says something to me in the sing song voice, even if it is a serious matter, I have to resist the urge to reply, "coochy coochy coo"
danieldemol Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Wow, this emoticon comes out different to what I expected:
Storm Rider Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Yesterday while he was sharing about missing his wife, it sounded normal and from the heart, not performed. I know my own weaknesses and I read his talks for the last several years. There is no need to beat a dead horse; some of us have issues with some things; hopefully we can overcome them, but for now we make choices that allow us to avoid what annoys and still reap the rewards of what is shared at conference.
Tacenda Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 I know my own weaknesses and I read his talks for the last several years. There is no need to beat a dead horse; some of us have issues with some things; hopefully we can overcome them, but for now we make choices that allow us to avoid what annoys and still reap the rewards of what is shared at conference.Most definitely, and you can't blame him. People in that age group, like my dad, did try to entertain in a way. They care enough about the other person that they try to uplift with jokes (teasing), my dad would do this, or by wiggling their ears, as Pres. Monson once shared. They have righteous intentions. They don't want to come across as a downer, but feel the need to cheer up one another. 1
Calm Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 Talk here: http://www.lds.org/general-conference/print/2013/10/be-ye-converted?lang=eng
Glenn101 Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 I find it easy to forgive anyone who has the nerve to get up in front of a camera and trying to reach out in a way that conveys their sincerity and desire to teach and reach and reassure and scold and everything else all at once....especially those who would never in a million years do it for any other reason than to fulfill a calling from the Lord. That some might have developed some camouflage to help them get through it is hardly surprising. If it sounds annoying to me, I generally just express gratitude that it is not my job to do so and find something to occupy that part of my brain that is having a negative reaction enough so I can listen to the actual message. I can honestly say that if I were called upon to give a talk in General Conference, there would be no sing song voice, no rising intonation, no smiling face when delivering a serious message. There would be .... a very loud silence. Glenn 3
Calm Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 I can honestly say that if I were called upon to give a talk in General Conference, there would be no sing song voice, no rising intonation, no smiling face when delivering a serious message. There would be .... a very loud silence. GlennI suspect I wouldn't even manage to get to the podium but would be found puking my guts out in the bathroom...at home. 2
Kenngo1969 Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) 1. Fill Salt Lake City's Energy Solutions Arena, full capacity 19,911, and don't tell me what my topic is until five minutes before I go on. 2. Point out a reasonably good-looking, eligible female and suggest that I go ask her out. I'll let you guess which one of the foregoing situations is more likely to leave me going, "Ah-hubbada, hubbada, hubbada ..." (Not so much any more, though. I've come to the conclusion that you can lead a filly to water, but you can't make her drink: if she prefers to not drink from my particular stream, so be it. I have sole possession of the remote control, the ability to come and go and do as I please (within reason and subject to schedule constraints), to eat what I want, when I want (again, within reason), and to watch whatever movie I want or to do whatever else I want without worrying about whether she cares or not. All of these things might be poor substitutes for being in a situation in which I would have to care about them, but, while I'm open to the possibility (however remote), I'll take what I can get.) Edited October 9, 2013 by Kenngo1969
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