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  1. Science is neutral on morals. Thus we are left with subjective reasoning which can and does change. This type of subjective morals is alive and maybe not so well in the U.S. of A. I do not think I can take this any further. I would only be repeating myself. I will allow you the last word.
  2. Agreed. In the Biblical case it surely seems to be referring to an organized body of people.
  3. Do you believe that id did not apply to Matthias who was selected to take the place of Judas Iscariot or to Paul who was an apostle but not one of the twelve?
  4. Because "God hath set some in the church." (1 Corinthians 12:28) "And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." (Acts 2:47) Sounds like two good reasons to look for such a church.
  5. I am not going to simply say that all moral codes are moral relativism because that does not leave room for the possible existence of an objective morality and an entity or entities that exist on a higher plane than ours which know and understand objective morals. I was not arguing for the existence of such an one, only what morals would in the absence thereof.
  6. Negative. I have merely been maintaining that human beings are subjective (I hope that there is no real dispute on that point) and that moral codes originated by human beings are also subjective and subject to change as human perspectives change.
  7. I agree with that. But I have not been debating anything about the existence of God. My posts have all been assuming that there is no God with the point being that all moral codes would be subjective. Moral relativism.
  8. All of my posts have been assuming that there is no God. It is others who keep throwing God into the mix.
  9. I am not arguing for the existence of God here. There would first have to be a consensus that there indeed is a god in order to try to find the real one. What I am debating is in opposition to your last statement. I have yet to see a cogent argument for objective morality without God. Every argument revolves around the premise that someone or a group of someones has found that eternal truth but they inevitably run into a conflict when it is pointed out that there are other people and cultures that would disagree with the someone or group of someones. The basic argument seems to be that if
  10. Isn't there a difference between sacrificing oneself versus being sacrificed?
  11. If there is no God, that would be mostly true. I do not know about the authoritarian part. It would seem to me to be the other way around.
  12. Ah, my friend, The Nehor, your post has some logical inconsistencies. Now, to save myself, I have to point out that I did not say people act out of logic. My point was that without God, or some type of higher moral authority that knows it all, then all moral codes are morally relative. That is the logic I was referring to. Now, when you talk of societies with horrible or amoral gods, by what moral authority do you pronounce that a god of another nation i horrible or amoral? You are either speaking as a person who has been taught a moral code from an ultimate authority, or as one who view
  13. Negative. My whole point and the examples I have put forth have been just to point out that without God all moral codes (those you may agree with and those that may strike you as repugnant) are moral relativism.
  14. The problem is that there is so much more that cannot be verified empirically. The existence of God cannot be proven empirically nor has anyone shown the ability to disprove His existence. Humans have indeed shown the ability to create nations, creeds, cultures they thought/think are good, but then point at other nations, creeds, cultures that do no adhere to their own standards as not good. Of course you define good from the set of values you have erected for yourself, and I would probably agree with most of them. But without God, we do not have the moral authority to label something els
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