Scott Lloyd Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Bonnie Oscarson, the new Young Women general president, is giving her conference sermon now. This is a special occasion for me because she is the wife of my third mission president Paul Oscarson. He was only 30 at the time he began serving as our mission president in the newly created Sweden Goteborg Mission, and she was still in her mid-20s. I remember one of the young sisters in the branch where I was serving exclaiming: "Can you imagine being so young and being mama to all those missionaries?" I can relate to her talk, especially the part about growing up in the '60s and resisting the trends toward drug abuse and the "new morality," which, as she said in her talk and was uttered frequently by Church leaders at the time, was really "just the old immorality." Edited October 6, 2013 by Scott Lloyd
juliann Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 She was AWESOME! She blew through all of the women speaker stereotypes. Kudos. Excellent, strong sermon. 2
why me Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Bonnie Oscarson, the new Young Women general president, is giving her conference sermon now. This is a special occasion for me because she is the wife of my third mission president Paul Oscarson. He was only 30 at the time he began serving as our mission president in the newly created Sweden Gotebotg Mission, and she was still in her mid-20s. I remember one of the young sisters in the branch where I was serving exclaiming: "Can you imagine being so young and being mama to all those missionaries?" I can relate to her talk, especially the part about growing up in the '60s and resisting the trends toward drug abuse and the "new morality," which, as she said in her talk and was uttered frequently by Church leaders at the time, was really "just the old immorality."The conference seems to be about keeping to the iron rod and avoid the great and spacious building. Amazing how the GAs are dealing with the relativism of today. No surrender. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted October 6, 2013 Author Posted October 6, 2013 She was AWESOME! She blew through all of the women speaker stereotypes. Kudos. Excellent, strong sermon.One of my female colleagues here compared her to Julie Beck.
Calm Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 She blew through all of the women speaker stereotypes. Not quite...she is wearing pink. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted October 6, 2013 Author Posted October 6, 2013 One of the stereotypes she bucks is that she's from St. Louis, not Salt Lake City.
ERayR Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 The conference seems to be about keeping to the iron rod and avoid the great and spacious building. Amazing how the GAs are dealing with the relativism of today. No surrender. I think it should be obvious to those who claim those "old" men are unaware of what is going on that they are very aware. 2
Traela Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 One of the stereotypes she bucks is that she's from St. Louis, not Salt Lake City.Ah, is that why she sounds like a real person? 4
cinepro Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Not quite...she is wearing pink. Right, but I immediately noticed (and someone else in the room commented) that she didn't use the "sing-song" voice that most other women speakers seem to use, as if they were talking to five-year-olds. So that was nice. 3
Popular Post volgadon Posted October 6, 2013 Popular Post Posted October 6, 2013 Right, but I immediately noticed (and someone else in the room commented) that she didn't use the "sing-song" voice that most other women speakers seem to use, as if they were talking to five-year-olds. So that was nice. The sing-song voice is why I cannot stand to listen to most women speakers at conference, and wait for the printed version. 6
ksfisher Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Bonnie Oscarson, the new Young Women general president, is giving her conference sermon now. This is a special occasion for me because she is the wife of my third mission president Paul Oscarson. He was only 30 at the time he began serving as our mission president in the newly created Sweden Goteborg Mission, and she was still in her mid-20s. I remember one of the young sisters in the branch where I was serving exclaiming: "Can you imagine being so young and being mama to all those missionaries?" I can relate to her talk, especially the part about growing up in the '60s and resisting the trends toward drug abuse and the "new morality," which, as she said in her talk and was uttered frequently by Church leaders at the time, was really "just the old immorality."Scott,What cities did you serve in? Trollhättan was my first area, November 1987 to March 1988. Not at the same time I realize.
Scott Lloyd Posted October 6, 2013 Author Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Ah, is that why she sounds like a real person? I've associated with her and Paul several times since the mission (I only served under them for about a month, and while they know me well from our subsequent associations they don't remember me from the mission). "Real" as she sounds, she seems more Utahn to me than many of the Utah-bashers I encounter here and elsewhere. And I mean that as a compliment. Edited October 6, 2013 by Scott Lloyd
Scott Lloyd Posted October 6, 2013 Author Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Scott,What cities did you serve in? Trollhättan was my first area, November 1987 to March 1988. Not at the same time I realize.Växjö first, then Malmö, Landskrona, the mission office in Stockholm, then Gävle and finally Karlskrona. Never got up to Norrland, where many were cold but few were frozen. But I was far enough south to see Copenhagen from a distance. And yes, I was there a bit earlier than you, 1974-76. Other than President Paul Oscarson, I served under his older brother Richard, and prior to that, Ron Folkersen. Interesting thing about the Oscarson brothers: While they were serving simultaneously as mission presidents in Sweden, their father was called to be a mission president in Scotland. Here's a story I wrote about the family back in 1998. Edited October 7, 2013 by Scott Lloyd
ksfisher Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Växjö first, then Malmö, Landskrona, the mission office in Stockholm, then Gävle and finally Karlskrona. Never got up to Norrland, where many were cold but few were frozen. But I was far enough south to see Copenhagen from a distance. And yes, I was there a bit earlier than you, 1974-76. Other than President Paul Oscarson, I served under his older brother Richard, and prior to that, Ron Folkersen. Interesting thing about the Oscarson brothers: While they were serving simultaneously as mission presidents in Sweden, their father was called to be a mission president in England. Here's a story I wrote about the family back in 1998.I served in both Växjö and Malmö. Malmö had to be my favorite place I served on my mission.
Scott Lloyd Posted October 6, 2013 Author Posted October 6, 2013 I served in both Växjö and Malmö. Malmö had to be my favorite place I served on my mission.It's where my ancestors lived, and i loved being there. Got to say, though, that I preferred the dialect farther north, around Göteborg and Stockholm.
gtaggart Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 She was AWESOME! She blew through all of the women speaker stereotypes. Kudos. Excellent, strong sermon.I agree completely. Excellent talk.
Calm Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Checking in to see what the scuttlebutt is about conference, gt?
Stone holm Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Ah, is that why she sounds like a real person? Lol....and Scott Lloyd didn't even rise to the bait.
Scott Lloyd Posted October 6, 2013 Author Posted October 6, 2013 Lol....and Scott Lloyd didn't even rise to the bait.Did you miss my post #12?
Stone holm Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Did you miss my post #12?Oops, wondered how you could have missed that shot at Utah...lol
The Nehor Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Right, but I immediately noticed (and someone else in the room commented) that she didn't use the "sing-song" voice that most other women speakers seem to use, as if they were talking to five-year-olds. So that was nice.This. I used to watch conference with my bishop's family and there was a half-joking rule there that you were allowed to sleep through talks given by women if you were over the age of 11.I think there is often an attempt made to sound maternal. Not sure why. Occasionally the men are paternal but usually they do this in Priesthood when addressing the Aaronic Priesthood. President Packer has a grandfatherly vibe but he can pull it off without being condescending. We used to call his talks "Grandpa Packer Explains How it is".
Stone holm Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 This. I used to watch conference with my bishop's family and there was a half-joking rule there that you were allowed to sleep through talks given by women if you were over the age of 11.I think there is often an attempt made to sound maternal. Not sure why. Occasionally the men are paternal but usually they do this in Priesthood when addressing the Aaronic Priesthood. President Packer has a grandfatherly vibe but he can pull it off without being condescending. We used to call his talks "Grandpa Packer Explains How it is".Elder Faust was the universal grandfather.
Traela Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 After thinking about it, I realized what I liked best about Sister Oscarson's delivery was that she wasn't all smiley. For some reason, women who do that really put me on edge. Maybe they are trying to hard?Her talk was good, too.
Kenngo1969 Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 After thinking about it, I realized what I liked best about Sister Oscarson's delivery was that she wasn't all smiley. For some reason, women who do that really put me on edge. Maybe they are trying to hard?Her talk was good, too. (Oh. Sorry. I had to do it, though. Never mind me.) 1
webbles Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 The sing-song voice is why I cannot stand to listen to most women speakers at conference, and wait for the printed version.For some reason, I've never noticed the sing-song voice. My wife had to point out what it was. Maybe I like being talked to as if I'm a little kid?
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