How often do Celestial couples have sex?

[mbh26]

This question made me wonder about what the desires of a perfect person becomes?  Does he still want to have sex or has he found a way to be happy without it.  Is it strictly for reproduction?  What two men and women have similar wants and needs/wants?

I've struggled a bit with weight control now that my joints are breaking down and can't work out like I once did. I've had to learn to love the hunger of dieting, the pain of exercise and abhor sweets that taste so good, but honestly candy doesn't taste good to me especially when I know the whole story on how it effects.  I've made it taste bad because of my beliefs of what it does to my body.  I've psychologically conditioned myself this way on purpose, not because it was morally right or wrong but because I needed to be thinner.

So is that the concept of heaven for man, to somehow only have the desire to have sex when called upon to do so but the rest of the time you have no drive so you're still happy?  Or is it really a fullness of joy for a sexual being to live with unfullfilled drives 90% of the time which I wouldn't doubt was the case even for Kody Brown with his 4 wives and the mess that lifestyle seems to create because it pushes him to keep finding more women who might be interested in having a baby.  For most other men that drive is only fullfilled when his wife finally decides to have children.  Once she's done having children any fullfillment of sex drive ends for him for as long as he's married to her.  Or do women get sex drives closer to a man's sex drive in the resurrection.  That would definitely be an easy way to imagine paradise.  

So here's the question, do resurrected men have sex drives?  More interestingly, do resurrected women have sex drives?  

[Kenngo1969]

I think the threshold issue is, "Do they?"  And perhaps another threshold issue is, If the answer to the question whether they do or not is, "Yes," then, I think the next logical question is, "What's it like?"  Even if the answer to the threshold question is, "Yes," I don't think that, really, it's possible for finite, myopic mortals even to hazard a guess at answering the second question.  I'm not sure the second question is the kind of question that is answerable in terms that humans can even understand.

Are there any "bad" experiences or bad days in the Celestial Kingdom?  Perhaps there are, as Enoch asked God, "How is it that Thou canst weep?"  Moses 7:29.  Is the "worst" day in the Celestial Kingdom better than even the best possible day in mortality?  One would think so.  What is marital intimacy in the Celestial Kingdom like?    I dunno.  I don't even know what it's like here in mortality, so I'm not even gonna try to guess what it's like in the Celestial Kingdom.  

Edited June 3, 2023 by Kenngo1969

[The Nehor]

As often as they want.

When called upon to do so? Is there someone who tells you when to mate? This is your idea of heaven?

Ummmm……you think it is normal to only have sex when trying to have a child? What? You do realize that some women have a higher sex drive than their husband right? It is not rare.

[Tacenda]

9 hours ago, mbh26 said:

This question made me wonder about what the desires of a perfect person becomes?  Does he still want to have sex or has he found a way to be happy without it.  Is it strictly for reproduction?  What two men and women have similar wants and needs/wants?

I've struggled a bit with weight control now that my joints are breaking down and can't work out like I once did. I've had to learn to love the hunger of dieting, the pain of exercise and abhor sweets that taste so good, but honestly candy doesn't taste good to me especially when I know the whole story on how it effects.  I've made it taste bad because of my beliefs of what it does to my body.  I've psychologically conditioned myself this way on purpose, not because it was morally right or wrong but because I needed to be thinner.

So is that the concept of heaven for man, to somehow only have the desire to have sex when called upon to do so but the rest of the time you have no drive so you're still happy?  Or is it really a fullness of joy for a sexual being to live with unfullfilled drives 90% of the time which I wouldn't doubt was the case even for Kody Brown with his 4 wives and the mess that lifestyle seems to create because it pushes him to keep finding more women who might be interested in having a baby.  For most other men that drive is only fullfilled when his wife finally decides to have children.  Once she's done having children any fullfillment of sex drive ends for him for as long as he's married to her.  Or do women get sex drives closer to a man's sex drive in the resurrection.  That would definitely be an easy way to imagine paradise.  

So here's the question, do resurrected men have sex drives?  More interestingly, do resurrected women have sex drives?  

I don't believe there will be sex. Since some in the church say we won't even need to speak or eat, why would we have physical sex? And since women won't physically give birth but just create spirits, which is kind of not in my realm of thinking and don't believe any of it, the church doesn't mention physical sex except Brigham Young as far as God having physical sex with Mary.

[mbh26]

Interesting.  If a resurrected body can eat and drink?  Does it get hungry and thirsty as well?

[MiserereNobis]

And y'all wonder why people think you're a little weird 😜

[LoudmouthMormon]

8 hours ago, The Nehor said:

When called upon to do so? Is there someone who tells you when to mate? This is your idea of heaven?

1. Yep

2. Yes-  my wife when her baby urges and my sound financial planning matched up

3- Yeah, pretty much heaven on earth at those times.  Some of the happiest and most fulfilled times of my entire life.   Much better than that time I beat a speeding ticket.  Almost as good as that one time I beat @The Nehor in an argument.

Edited June 3, 2023 by LoudmouthMormon

[rodheadlee]

Every day.

[Pyreaux]

Do evil inclinations like lust exist in heaven? Lust is necessary for procreation here. But as hashed out hundreds of times, it was not necessary when Mary conceived even a "natural" Son of the Father, nor for spirit birth. Though the importance of gender and coupling is necessary. We can only have confidence that Heaven seems to be an ideal reality, we'll be satisfied, whatever that means.

Edited June 3, 2023 by Pyreaux

[Amulek]

In before the lock.

Woot!

 

[CV75]

12 hours ago, mbh26 said:

This question made me wonder about what the desires of a perfect person becomes?  Does he still want to have sex or has he found a way to be happy without it.  Is it strictly for reproduction?  What two men and women have similar wants and needs/wants?

I've struggled a bit with weight control now that my joints are breaking down and can't work out like I once did. I've had to learn to love the hunger of dieting, the pain of exercise and abhor sweets that taste so good, but honestly candy doesn't taste good to me especially when I know the whole story on how it effects.  I've made it taste bad because of my beliefs of what it does to my body.  I've psychologically conditioned myself this way on purpose, not because it was morally right or wrong but because I needed to be thinner.

So is that the concept of heaven for man, to somehow only have the desire to have sex when called upon to do so but the rest of the time you have no drive so you're still happy?  Or is it really a fullness of joy for a sexual being to live with unfullfilled drives 90% of the time which I wouldn't doubt was the case even for Kody Brown with his 4 wives and the mess that lifestyle seems to create because it pushes him to keep finding more women who might be interested in having a baby.  For most other men that drive is only fullfilled when his wife finally decides to have children.  Once she's done having children any fullfillment of sex drive ends for him for as long as he's married to her.  Or do women get sex drives closer to a man's sex drive in the resurrection.  That would definitely be an easy way to imagine paradise.  

So here's the question, do resurrected men have sex drives?  More interestingly, do resurrected women have sex drives?  

I think this might offer someinsight: D&C 130:2 And that same ^asociality which exists among us here will exist among us there, only it will be coupled with ^beternal glory, which glory we do not now enjoy.

[The Nehor]

34 minutes ago, Pyreaux said:

Do evil inclinations like lust exist. Lust is necessary here. But as hashed out hundreds of times, it's not necessary when Mary conceived even a "natural" Son of the Father, nor for spirit birth. Though the importance of gender and coupling is necessary. We can only have confidence that Heaven seems to be an ideal reality, we'll be satisfied, whatever that means.

Wait, lust is evil now?

[CA Steve]

We are kids in a sandbox discussing which toy is better, Barbie or Tonka trucks.

If you somehow discovered that exalted beings have no interest in sex would you still want to be one? Why or why not?

[InCognitus]

3 hours ago, rodheadlee said:

Every day.

That's horrible.

"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." (2 Peter 3:8)
 

[LoudmouthMormon]

Just a reminder, us good little mormons have a blessed-by-church-leadership "how to do it" book:

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The ultimate how-to handbook, written especially for women, is power-packed with hope and help for creating a mutually fulfilling sexual relationship in marriage. As three books in one, this marriage book, sex book, and parenting book uses a fresh and frank approach and shines light and truth on the sanctity of the marital sexual relationship. It provides comprehensive solutions for creating complete ONEness by improving emotional, spiritual and physical intimacy in marriage.

 

[MrShorty]

Such and interesting, compelling question. Some thoughts rattling around in my head (in no particular, an probably worth less than you paid for them):

1) If it's not inappropriate to steal an idea from the asexual community, but I find a demisexual-esque component to my own sexual desire.The stronger my relationship with my wife, the more I desire her. What is going to happen when that romantic love is refined into something perfectly and Celestial? RE: the title question -- how often? I don't know. In a vague sense, I can accept the "as often as they want" answer, but it's just too vague and generic.

2) What really is sexual desire? I recall something a secular sex therapist said into a space where a couple is having difficulty negotiating differences in desire. She said that the higher desire spouse needs to consider exactly what they want from sex before "imposing" on the lower desire spouse. If the desire is for pleasure and orgasm, take care of yourself. Pursue your spouse when you want to connect with your spouse. Many in religious circles denigrate the former as "unholy" and promote the latter as "holy." Will our desire in heaven always be towards a person, or does the desire for pleasure and orgasm continue into the next life?

3) Someone mentioned that "lust" (whatever that is, but it is almost always considered negative or lesser or telestial or some such) won't exist in heaven. What do we mean by lust? Most importantly in that definition, does lust encompass all forms of sexual desire, or can sexual desire be outside of lust?

4) I would venture to say that a major part of my own faith "crisis" or "journey" or whatever you want to call it includes journeying out of "purity culture" into somewhere where my sexual desires are not automatically evil or sinful or even "less than" other desires. A place where eros is on the same level as philia and agape (within the right contexts). I find that a big part of that journey has caused me to question and doubt and supplant teachings from my youth about the nature and place of sexuality in the Gospel. How will that journey continue to extend into the Celestial realms? What will I learn as I grow?

5) Over the years, I have often felt that we fail to have a "grand, unified theology of sexuality." We have thoughts and ideas for singles, for couples, for LGBT+, and others where we talk about how we think sexuality fits into whatever place that person finds themselves, but these disparate attempts to understand sexuality don't readily overlap. It seems to me that we have something to learn that will bring all of those disparate ideas into something unified and meaningful.