Dario_M Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) I heard that in the old days you needed to show up in the temple for your endowmend. And in the temple you needed to take all your clothes off so that they could bless every body part of you with oil. That is a storie that i have heard from an Ex Mormon. Correct me if i'm wrong. 😁 Edited February 21, 2023 by Dario_M
MustardSeed Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, Grug the Neanderthal said: How so? You’ll get there, if you look hard enough.
MustardSeed Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Dario_M said: I heard that in the old days you needed to show up in the temple for your endowmend. And in the temple you needed to take all your clothes off so that they could bless every body part of you with oil. That is a storie that i have heard from an Ex Mormon. Correct me if i'm wrong. 😁 There are a lot of Myths. Consider yourself corrected. The only thing that matters is what is happening today. If you have no plans to go, then it really doesn’t matter 🙂 Edited February 21, 2023 by MustardSeed
Dario_M Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, MustardSeed said: There are a lot of Myths. Consider yourself corrected. The only thing that matters is what is happening today. If you have no plans to go, then it really doesn’t matter 🙂 I have no plans to go to the temple. 😉
MustardSeed Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dario_M said: I have no plans to go to the temple. 😉 Very well then. Carry on.
bluebell Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Grug the Neanderthal said: Sure. And I have no problem accepting that. I definitely haven’t suggesting that you do this. Just pointing out that when you insist that you haven’t lost anything with the temple changes that you don’t actually know this and that in a future day you may change your mind. That’s all. And you don’t actually know you have lost anything and in a future day may change your mind. Like I said before, it’s a useless statement to make since it is equally applicable to your beliefs, and to everyone else’s. All you are really saying is that no one knows anything and everyone could be wrong about everything they believe and we might all be sorry in the end. We might as well just say this at the beginning of every thread and save ourselves the trouble. 😁 2
Grug the Neanderthal Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 46 minutes ago, MustardSeed said: You’ll get there, if you look hard enough. No, that’s a cop out. Please enlighten me with what you are referring to.
JLHPROF Posted February 21, 2023 Author Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, MustardSeed said: There are a lot of Myths. Consider yourself corrected. 🙂 Really? 🤨 Edited February 21, 2023 by JLHPROF
Bernard Gui Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 7 hours ago, Calm said: No, not silence as I have tinnitus as well. I need to lower the volume only. I can’t use earplugs/earbuds either, so it’s headphones. Do you mean the moldable silicone ones or something else? Yes, moldeable. I use them in the temple chapel because the organ music is very distracting for me. You can fit it to your outer ear. It does not have to go in the ear canal. I have had tinnitus since I was 22. I remember the day it started. If it were an “A” pitch I could tune my violin to it.😀 There are musician earplugs that reduce the volume but maintain all frequencies.
MustardSeed Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: Really? 🤨 Was there a time when Jenna Tallia was touched? Voice to text and I’m not changing it lol 2
Grug the Neanderthal Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, bluebell said: you don’t actually know you have lost anything It’s not hard to show that teachings in the endowment have been removed and therefore lost to those individuals who never hear about them, like my kids who haven’t been endowed yet.
MustardSeed Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Grug the Neanderthal said: No, that’s a cop out. Please enlighten me with what you are referring Edited February 21, 2023 by MustardSeed
MustardSeed Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Grug the Neanderthal said: No, that’s a cop out. Please enlighten me with what you are referring to. No thank you. Compassion comes with experience and cannot be taught. There are changes that have been made that seemed to me to be pointless until my compassion expanded. 2
Tacenda Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: Really? 🤨 I read somewhere it happened in the beginning, but there were very few members compared to now, so it had to be changed.
Grug the Neanderthal Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, MustardSeed said: No thank you. Compassion comes with experience and cannot be taught. Compassion can be taught and you are fully capable of explaining to me what you are referring to, whether I agree or not. What great compassion can I gain from the changes to the endowment? 1
pogi Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grug the Neanderthal said: What could I have gained from the endowment being changed? If you were humble and open enough, you may actually learn to treat your wife with the respect and dignity that she deserves as an equal partner rather than a subservient and subordinate subject to you. We have all read your threads though, so I don’t think anyone is holding their breath. Edited February 21, 2023 by pogi
Grug the Neanderthal Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, pogi said: If you were humble and open enough, you may actually learn to treat your wife with the respect and dignity that she deserves as an equal partner rather than a subservient and subordinate subject to you. We have all read your threads though, so I don’t think anyone is holding their breath. Wow Pogi, you’ve stooped to a new low. And that’s saying something. Edited February 21, 2023 by Grug the Neanderthal 1
pogi Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Grug the Neanderthal said: Wow Pogi, you’ve stooped to a new low. And that’s saying something. I have read your views on women and their place in the home. I also know of your absolute certainty in how you interpret scripture. You are not in a position to be open enough to consider anything else. You have everybody “pegged” and place yourself high above us who are far below your righteousness. It is us wicked saints who like the changes who are responsible for all of these temple changes andlossofblessongs, and the Lord is just suffering us, right? Edited February 21, 2023 by pogi
Rain Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Grug the Neanderthal said: What could I have gained from the endowment being changed and having teachings and symbolism removed? Things have also been added. You could learn from those things. 1
Calm Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Bernard Gui said: Yes, moldeable. I use them in the temple chapel because the organ music is very distracting for me. You can fit it to your outer ear. It does not have to go in the ear canal. These are what I use when jogging in the pool, but have to readjust often and wear a headband so I don’t lose them, something that makes me hot out of the pool….though I think I will do it anyway next visit now you have reminded me I have got them (haven’t been able to get to the pool for quite some time). How do you manage to keep them from falling out? You can PM me if you want.
Popular Post MustardSeed Posted February 21, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 21, 2023 I don’t know pogi. We can easily quietly go to that conclusion based on what Grug openly believes, but perhaps publicly accusing him of poor husbandry is a bit too personal? I don’t want to nanny but we all need to feel reasonably safe here. Admittedly when I see acquaintances at church and elsewhere with husbands who are insisting on biblical relationships I pity their wives but I don’t think I’d say it out loud. 😅😇 5
MustardSeed Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Bernard Gui said: have had tinnitus since I was 22. I remember the day it started. If it were an “A” pitch I could tune my violin to it.😀 There are musician earplugs that reduce the volume but maintain all frequencies. I’ve used in ear monitors before but ironically they squeeled and probably did more damage. My tinnitus is awful- wouldn’t an “A” be magical!
Dario_M Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, MustardSeed said: Very well then. Carry on. Thank you so much that i may carry on miss MustardSeed. 🙏
pogi Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, MustardSeed said: I don’t know pogi. We can easily quietly go to that conclusion based on what Grug openly believes, but perhaps publicly accusing him of poor husbandry is a bit too personal? I don’t want to nanny but we all need to feel reasonably safe here. Admittedly when I see acquaintances at church and elsewhere with husbands who are insisting on biblical relationships I pity their wives but I don’t think I’d say it out loud. 😅😇 I don’t think he is married from what I can tell. I told him before that I suspected that he wasn’t based on some of his comments and asked him directly if he was married. He avoided the question, leading me to believe he is not. But I could be wrong. My comment was therefore not intended to be an accusation, but an answer to his question of what he can gain from these temple changes in preparing him for a more healthy perspective on women and marriage dynamics. I think my answer is valid, it can lead to a more healthy family and marital dynamic and improve societal and cultural views of women that clearly he is buying into. I want to make it very clear that these changes are progressive and not regressive. If he thinks he can’t learn something from them, then I feel to express my opinion otherwise and not let his question go unanswered. If he is married, he may be as good a husband he can be under such views, but I feel his wife would benefit from a more respectful view of women. Edited February 21, 2023 by pogi
Dario_M Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 59 minutes ago, pogi said: I have read your views on women and their place in the home. ? 🤣!
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