bsjkki Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 Get vaccinated. https://www.newsweek.com/unvaccinated-mother-suffered-stillbirth-due-covid-urges-pregnant-women-get-vaccine-1625966?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1630710177 In the beginning people pregnant or wanting to get pregnant were hesitant but the risks from covid are far higher. 4
Chum Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Calm said: Someone said their family members were instructed to head to emergency if their saturation level dropped to or below 90. That's my understanding. However when I'd take mine right after waking, it was typically about 88. My waking BP is typically about 90/45 so maybe that's related. Once I move around a little, my Ox is at 96-98. Takes an Adderall and a Pepsi Max to get my BP to normal tho.
Calm Posted September 4, 2021 Author Posted September 4, 2021 3 hours ago, bsjkki said: Get vaccinated. https://www.newsweek.com/unvaccinated-mother-suffered-stillbirth-due-covid-urges-pregnant-women-get-vaccine-1625966?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1630710177 In the beginning people pregnant or wanting to get pregnant were hesitant but the risks from covid are far higher. Quote Piedmont OBGYN Timothy Villegas said testing has shown that when pregnant women contract COVID-19, the virus can infect the placenta and destroy placenta tissue and cause inflammation. These complications in turn cause stillbirths. "Higher rates of hospitalizations, higher rates of maternal death and even stillbirths, which you know we've seen three cases of that in Columbus in the last month," Villegas told the local outlet. "And this is something we have not seen previously, so we're starting to get really worried about this and get the word out." Quote Hospital doctors in Louisiana have noted that the now-dominant variant is causing a rise in COVID hospitalizations among pregnant women who don't have other medial problems—a demographic which hadn't seen high rates of admission in the other waves of the pandemic. "This is really becoming, as we've said before, a disease of the unvaccinated, and it's affecting the pregnant women, her fetus, her newborn, her family at home,"Dr. Jane Martin, a maternal fetal medicine fellow at the Ochsner Baptist hospital in New Orleans, said last month. "It's coming on a lot stronger than other surges have in the pregnant population." Quote Martin previously told Newsweek that she's had to treat many infected pregnant patients with supplemental oxygen, intubation and mechanical ventilation. "People need to hear it loud that the COVID vaccine does not increase your risk of infertility. It does not increase your risk of miscarriage or any bad pregnancy outcomes," she said. Got to admit, I think I would be driving myself insane debating the vaccine and worrying about covid if I was pregnant. I was always wondering ‘what if’ with the normal stuff. I took tryptophan a lot to help with sleep and now I wonder if that contributed to my daughter’s tendency for depression or anxiety as tryptophan is taken to increase serotonin. 2
Calm Posted September 4, 2021 Author Posted September 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chum said: That's my understanding. However when I'd take mine right after waking, it was typically about 88. My waking BP is typically about 90/45 so maybe that's related. Once I move around a little, my Ox is at 96-98. Takes an Adderall and a Pepsi Max to get my BP to normal tho. Have you had a sleep study done? If your oxygen is low while you sleep, I can see that as creating some issues for you long term. However this suggests that 88 while sleeping may be okay. Quote Everyone's oxygen levels in the blood are lower during sleep, due to a mildly reduced level of breathing. Also, some alveoli drop out of use during sleep. If your waking oxygen saturation is greater than about 94 percent on room air, it is unlikely that your saturation during sleep will fall below 88 percent. However, your doctor can order an overnight oximetry test if there is a question about your oxygen saturation levels while you are sleeping. https://www.ucsfhealth.org/education/the-need-for-supplemental-oxygen#4 Would be interesting to see if sleeping with oxygen helped you at all. 1
Calm Posted September 4, 2021 Author Posted September 4, 2021 This has 88% as safe as well, but you might want to check out the symptoms to see if you get any red flags (since my issues are most likely mostly due to a sleep disorder, I tend to be obsessed with the subject). https://www.oxygenconcentratorsupplies.com/articles/does-an-oxygen-concentrator-help-you-sleep-better/ 1
Chum Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Calm said: Have you had a sleep study done? I'm in FL and not wealthy so no insurance. I had some signs of sleep apnea but I think they've retreated since I lost weight. 1
pogi Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) Yep: https://www.ksl.com/article/50234608/its-pretty-easy-to-get-into-toxic-levels-efforts-grow-to-stamp-out-use-of-animal-strength-parasite-drug-for-covid-19 Edited September 4, 2021 by pogi 1
BlueDreams Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 Idaho is on the edge of needing to implement crisis standards of care: https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-idaho-09941b507483a5c7b0183dcbf03a8254 2
Raingirl Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, BlueDreams said: Idaho is on the edge of needing to implement crisis standards of care: https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-idaho-09941b507483a5c7b0183dcbf03a8254 Oregon is also overwhelmed. We’re in the worst condition we’ve been in since the pandemic started. Hospitals are full. People are dying because they can’t get the care they need. Vital surgeries have been canceled. Morgue trucks are being brought in. The National Guard has been brought in. And still, people are denying the reality of the situation. Refusing to vaccinate and wear masks. Parents are refusing to allow their children to wear masks to school. The insanity goes on. My employer is still planning on in-person classes, but they made the last minute decision to not bring the rest of the staff back to campus as planned. Our peak is yet to come, so it’s going to get even worse 4
Chum Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Raingirl said: Oregon is also overwhelmed. We’re in the worst condition we’ve been in since the pandemic started. Hospitals are full. People are dying because they can’t get the care they need. Vital surgeries have been canceled. Morgue trucks are being brought in. As far as overwhelmed hospitals go, Oregon is in good company. Georgia. Tennessee. Alaska. Kentucky. Idaho. Arkansas. Alabama. New Mexico. West Virginia. Hawaii. Mississippi. And of course states like TX and FL where the record number of deaths, etc is just state officials meeting their covid nurturing goals. 1
Popular Post Peacefully Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Posted September 4, 2021 14 hours ago, Calm said: Got to admit, I think I would be driving myself insane debating the vaccine and worrying about covid if I was pregnant. I was always wondering ‘what if’ with the normal stuff. I took tryptophan a lot to help with sleep and now I wonder if that contributed to my daughter’s tendency for depression or anxiety as tryptophan is taken to increase serotonin. My daughter got the first dose and then found out she was pregnant. She got the second dose and just recently she got the booster with the approval of her midwife. She is due in a week, and I would be worried if she were going into the hospital unvaccinated. 5
Danzo Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Raingirl said: Oregon is also overwhelmed. We’re in the worst condition we’ve been in since the pandemic started. Hospitals are full. People are dying because they can’t get the care they need. Vital surgeries have been canceled. Morgue trucks are being brought in. The National Guard has been brought in. And still, people are denying the reality of the situation. Refusing to vaccinate and wear masks. Parents are refusing to allow their children to wear masks to school. The insanity goes on. My employer is still planning on in-person classes, but they made the last minute decision to not bring the rest of the staff back to campus as planned. Our peak is yet to come, so it’s going to get even worse yet Oregon has one of the most strick masking mask mandates. They had one of the strictes covid policies and were one of the last states to reopen Shouldn't Oregon be the state with the least covid problems?
bsjkki Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Danzo said: yet Oregon has one of the most strick masking mask mandates. They had one of the strictes covid policies and were one of the last states to reopen Shouldn't Oregon be the state with the least covid problems? They managed the first waves well so have less natural immunity and lower vaccination rates in the rural areas. Delta spreads easily. 1
Danzo Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, bsjkki said: They managed the first waves well so have less natural immunity and lower vaccination rates in the rural areas. Delta spreads easily. So doing everything right makes everything worse?
Danzo Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, bsjkki said: They managed the first waves well so have less natural immunity and lower vaccination rates in the rural areas. Delta spreads easily. Looking at the maps, the virus is transmitting quite well in multnomah, clackamas and washington counties. Not very rural.
Raingirl Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, Danzo said: So doing everything right makes everything worse? It’s the people who are NOT doing things right that are driving the surge. Delta is more contagious and it’s the unvaccinated that are spreading it and filling up the hospitals. It would be even worse had Oregon not done as well as it has. 2
Chum Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 Anyone have info on accuracy of different Covid tests? Asking because our county offers PCR testing but the results are negative for everyone that I know who took it - including 3 people that scored positive on other tests (molecular OTC) and have strong symptoms (long term loss of smell, persistent breathing issues). I'm trying to get better informed before my suspicious start edging toward mistrust.
Chum Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Raingirl said: It’s the people who are NOT doing things right that are driving the surge. Delta is more contagious and it’s the unvaccinated that are spreading it and filling up the hospitals. It would be even worse had Oregon not done as well as it has. Most hospitals that are supplying info are saying that the unvaccinated rate of admissions are well over 90%. I've seen some that said they have zero vaccinated covid patients. 1
Danzo Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Raingirl said: It’s the people who are NOT doing things right that are driving the surge. Delta is more contagious and it’s the unvaccinated that are spreading it and filling up the hospitals. It would be even worse had Oregon not done as well as it has. Why is Multnomah county surging? Don't they have the highest vaccination rate? Weren't they the first to issue the mask mandate last month? It would seem mask mandates don't help in the highest vaccinated place with the highest level of compliance. 7 minutes ago, Raingirl said: It would be even worse had Oregon not done as well as it has. That statement is true for everywhere, anytime.
Raingirl Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 54 minutes ago, Danzo said: Why is Multnomah county surging? Don't they have the highest vaccination rate? Weren't they the first to issue the mask mandate last month? It would seem mask mandates don't help in the highest vaccinated place with the highest level of compliance. That statement is true for everywhere, anytime. It’s too bad your willful ignorance and personal agendas prevents you from understanding even the simplest of concepts.
Popular Post BlueDreams Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Posted September 4, 2021 59 minutes ago, Danzo said: Why is Multnomah county surging? Don't they have the highest vaccination rate? Weren't they the first to issue the mask mandate last month? It would seem mask mandates don't help in the highest vaccinated place with the highest level of compliance. That statement is true for everywhere, anytime. It you look at the maps and compare county vaccination rate and county hotspots (as in high case rate per 100k people) there is an obviously correlation between vaccination and spread. Multnomah is no exception. Their covid cases are steadier than most the rural counties I clicked on (as in there’s no drastic surging happening there) and per capita, their rate is on the lower end for Oregon. this is with a big thing going against it: it has a far greater population density. Which means it’s harder to socially distance and reduce contact with others. It gives huge credence to the final step to reducing covid transmission: vaccinations. Without it, it can dash previous efforts to slow the spread in the face of delta. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/oregon-covid-cases.html With luv, BD 7
Popular Post Chum Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Danzo said: Why is Multnomah county surging? The highest surge is among the unvaccinated. 1 hour ago, Danzo said: Don't they have the highest vaccination rate? Yes so they're still faring much better than their low-vaccination neighbors. 1 hour ago, Danzo said: It would seem mask mandates don't help in the highest vaccinated place with the highest level of compliance. We know that higher compliance reduces infection rates. This tells us that wherever Multnomah infection rates are, they'd be even higher with lower mask compliance. 5
Popular Post bsjkki Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Posted September 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Danzo said: So doing everything right makes everything worse? No, because higher vaccination rates help a lot. 5
Danzo Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Raingirl said: It’s too bad your willful ignorance and personal agendas prevents you from understanding even the simplest of concepts. What did I ever do to you make you so upset with me? What do you think my personal agenda is?
Danzo Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Chum said: The highest surge is among the unvaccinated. Yes so they're still faring much better than their low-vaccination neighbors. We know that higher compliance reduces infection rates. This tells us that wherever Multnomah infection rates are, they'd be even higher with lower mask compliance. Yet https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2021/09/providence-to-park-mobile-morgues-at-portland-area-hospitals-amid-covid-19-surge.html
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