Popular Post pogi Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, rongo said: I would rather let our children get measles, mumps, and German measles as childhood illnesses, but I understand the risks to adults since we have been vaccinating children and they didn't have it as children (birth defects, sterility in men, etc.). Have you even considered the risk of measles in children under 5? I don't think you really have any idea what you are talking about. Quote Nobody wants diptheria or tetanus (I've had tetanus boosters as an adult for sports injuries --- precautionary). Those are bad news, and I embrace those. You couldn't get diphtheria in the US even if you wanted it. Pertusis, not tetanus or diphtheria, is the reason that DTaP is required for school children. Edited August 28, 2021 by pogi 7
Popular Post Hamba Tuhan Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, pogi said: Have you even considered the risk of measles in children under 5? I don't think you really have any idea what you are talking about. The developed world is experiencing collective generational amnesia. My parents used to tell me stories about how they lost at least one schoolmate each school term and over the holidays to 'childhood diseases' that we now vaccinate for. Quote You couldn't get diphtheria in the US even if you wanted it. Pertusis, not tetanus or diphtheria, is the reason that DTaP is required for school children. My adolescent mother moved in with her sister to help care for my eldest cousin, who had caught pertussis. She said it was the most nightmarish thing, holding his frail little body as he coughed and coughed and coughed, struggling for air. This lasted for agonising weeks, around the clock. Then he died in her arms one afternoon as her sister was catching a nap. I grew up knowing that, for all their flaws, vaccines are God-given. Edited August 28, 2021 by Hamba Tuhan 8
Chum Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 People who work at a hospital - with a longstanding mandatory flu vaccine requirement - are protesting having to get a Covid vaccine. So far none have admitted they once parroted the "It's Just The Flu" mantra.
Chum Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said: My adolescent mother moved in with her sister to help care for my eldest cousin, who had caught pertussis. My sister had it at 3yo. My mom said it was about the hardest thing they ever went thru.
Peacefully Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 Hopefully, some good news here in Texas. https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/27/texas-mask-mandates-greg-abbott/ 2
Chum Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 The America's Frontline Doctors® quacks are prescribing a livestock deworming drug for Covid. Predictably, poison control centers (in mostly southern states) are seeing a strong uptick in calls.
Peacefully Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Chum said: The America's Frontline Doctors® quacks are prescribing a livestock deworming drug for Covid. Predictably, poison control centers (in mostly southern states) are seeing a strong uptick in calls. Yep, I’ve read that the stuff is flying off the shelves here. 1
Popular Post Hamba Tuhan Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Peacefully said: Hopefully, some good news here in Texas. Wait ... Quote Since the pandemic began, Abbott has issued a flurry of executive orders, the most prominent of which have limited cities and counties from enacting measures intended to slow the spread of COVID-19, like ... occupancy restrictions on businesses like restaurants and retailers. This man has tried preventing local governments from enacting basic public health measures like occupancy restrictions? And is supported by people who think that government overreach is a problem? Well, that makes, er, something ... Edited August 28, 2021 by Hamba Tuhan 5
Chum Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Peacefully said: Yep, I’ve read that the stuff is flying off the shelves here. Ideologues learn what's effective against Covid - then suddenly believe it's awesome to put literally anything else at all into their body. Charlie Manson couldn't have designed a more destructive cult. 2
Hamba Tuhan Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Chum said: Ideologues learn what's effective against Covid - then suddenly believe it's awesome to put literally anything else at all into their body. It's the 'you can't tell me what to do' mentality that I sometimes bumped into during the time that I taught in an American alternative school filled, mostly, with juvenile criminals. I learnt to use it to my advantage. I could stop one of these young people doing what s/he really wanted to do just by recommending it. Apparently, not everyone who attains the age of majority actually outgrows this phenomenon ... 3
Chum Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Peacefully said: Yep, I’ve read that the stuff is flying off the shelves here. This Dr. Mengele-esque guy seems to be origin of the ivermectin delusion. At least he's under investigation by the AR medical board. Now we need med boards to step up to investigate America Frontline Doctors and other Covid frauds.
Chum Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hamba Tuhan said: Apparently, not everyone who attains the age of majority actually outgrows this phenomenon ... My take is that folks who grew up under the War On Drugs learned that people in trusted positions lie for a living. That mindset is reasonable which makes it all the harder to dispel. 2
Rain Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said: The developed world is experiencing collective generational amnesia. My parents used to tell me stories about how they lost at least one schoolmate each school term and over the holidays to 'childhood diseases' that we now vaccinate for. My adolescent mother moved in with her sister to help care for my eldest cousin, who had caught pertussis. She said it was the most nightmarish thing, holding his frail little body as he coughed and coughed and coughed, struggling for air. This lasted for agonising weeks, around the clock. Then he died in her arms one afternoon as her sister was catching a nap. I grew up knowing that, for all their flaws, vaccines are God-given. My husband had pertussis this last year. We thought for sure he had covid except he didn't lose his taste or smell. It was pretty rough on him. Your story makes me glad he was vaccinated. 3
Peacefully Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 Just found out that a friend of a friend passed from Covid today. Early 40’s, healthy, but not vaccinated. His friends had hoped he would recover and decide to be vaccinated but it was not to be. 4
Rain Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, Peacefully said: Just found out that a friend of a friend passed from Covid today. Early 40’s, healthy, but not vaccinated. His friends had hoped he would recover and decide to be vaccinated but it was not to be. So sorry. 1
Rivers Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) The funny thing about this whole pandemic is that it’s bad enough to put a strain on hospitals, but it’s not exactly the Black Plague either. I help take care of the very sick Covid patients. I see first-hand how brutal it can be to people. The hospital I work at is very busy right now during this Delta surge. However, most ordinary people aren’t seeing friends and family dying all around them. So a lot of folks aren’t seeing this as serious enough to clamor for the vaccine. Getting vaccinated was a no-brainer for me. But not for others. Edited August 29, 2021 by Rivers 2
Hamba Tuhan Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) On 8/28/2021 at 1:00 AM, Hamba Tuhan said: A poignant story from the San Angelo [Texas] Standard-Tribune. It appears from some of the photographs that the family are Church members: Heart-breaking stuff. ETA: I found their Facebook page. Definitely members. Doctors have asked for a do-not-resuscitate order. So sad. Update: the co-founder of the San Angelo Freedom Defenders, who publicly stated, 'I care more about freedom than I care about your personal health', passed away today, age 30. I feel really bad for his wife, who has made it very clear that she both disagreed with and deeply loved her husband, and her soon-to-be four daughters. I also feel really bad for anyone who chose to listen to this man's words over the teachings of the living prophets. Edited August 29, 2021 by Hamba Tuhan 4
Hamba Tuhan Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Rain said: My husband had pertussis this last year. We thought for sure he had covid except he didn't lose his taste or smell. It was pretty rough on him. My sister in America caught it from one of her unvaccinated high school students about three winters ago. She was deathly sick, and even after she was deemed safe to return to work, she had a persistent hacking cough and fatigue for some three or four months. Awful. I'm glad your husband is better! 2
Calm Posted August 29, 2021 Author Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Hamba Tuhan said: Update: the co-founder of the San Angelo Freedom Defenders, who publicly stated, 'I care more about freedom than I care about your personal health', passed away today, age 30. I feel really bad for his wife, who has made it very clear that she disagreed with her husband, and her soon-to-be four daughters. Unless he had very good life insurance, mortgage insurance, or either of them are from a wealthy family, my guess is his family’s freedom (as in opportunities) just got drastically limited in several ways. I hope she has strong family support. Edited August 29, 2021 by Calm 1
Hamba Tuhan Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Calm said: Unless he had very good life insurance, mortgage insurance, or either of them are from a wealthy family, my guess is his family’s freedom (as in opportunities) just got drastically limited in several ways. I hope she has strong family support. Tragically, an accurate assessment. From her GoFundMe page: Quote Caleb has always worked hard to allow me to be a stay at home mom and now in these difficult times I don’t know where to turn. We have 3 beautiful girls and one more darling that will join us Sept 27 ... bills are approaching and we were not prepared for this to be happening. I need help with mortgage, water, electricity and necessities for the girls. Anything helps at the moment. I’m trying to prepare for this month and the next. With being this far along in pregnancy I can’t get a job and after delivery I’ll need s few weeks to recover ... 8/24/21-This money is also going towards Calebs medical bills as they start coming in. He’s now been in the hospital since July 30th and I know I must prepare for them as well. Gotta pray for the best and prepare for the worst.
Calm Posted August 29, 2021 Author Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) Thankfully they will have the help of church members, I am guessing, church welfare. Hope she has a college degree. He was 30 and with 4 kids, married pretty young. Eldest is 5, so married at least 6ish years. If she is not much younger than her husband, she could have graduated. And his group, the Freedom Defenders, I hope they step up big time to support this family and now all that are left go get vaccinated along with their spouses and older kids as a way to be free of fear of leaving family behind. It is good to see people are being generous, probably people he has helped over the years as they can. Got to wonder how bad the medical bills will be. He was in the hospital for 28 days under pretty significant care. Edited August 29, 2021 by Calm 2
Calm Posted August 29, 2021 Author Posted August 29, 2021 12 hours ago, Rivers said: However, most ordinary aren’t seeing friends and family during all around them. So a lot of folks aren’t seeing this as serious enough to clamor for the vaccine. I hadn’t thought of that, but having to isolate does prevent friends and family who normally would be visiting from seeing deterioration and suffering. I wonder how much difference that has made.
Hamba Tuhan Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 54 minutes ago, Calm said: Thankfully they will have the help of church members, I am guessing, church welfare ... And his group, the Freedom Defenders, I hope they step up big time to support this family and now all that are left go get vaccinated along with their spouses and older kids as a way to be free of fear of leaving family behind. I sincerely hope both of those things happen. I only have confidence in one of them ...
carbon dioxide Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 The south has filled up the hospitals with COVID due to unvaccinated people and now a near Cat 5 hurricane is barreling down on many of them. Unnecessary misery being compounded by more misery. 1
Chum Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, carbon dioxide said: The south has filled up the hospitals with COVID due to unvaccinated people and now a near Cat 5 hurricane is barreling down on many of them. Unnecessary misery being compounded by more misery. Animosity ruins judgment and reason. Southern politics is hell bent on mainlining animosity into every vein it can find. Edited August 29, 2021 by Chum
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