Storm Rider Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Marginal Gains said: Once again the point is missed. Immodesty is in the eye of the beholder. If you have a modesty problem with a peekaboo shoulder, that is YOUR problem. Learn to control yourself for crying out loud! I agree and If I can walk around naked and feel fine, but you felt I was immodest than you need to control yourself. You obviously have a problem for crying out loud.
Storm Rider Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 15 hours ago, Thinking said: The peek a boo shoulder is very popular right now. I'm curious what the posters on this board think of the peek a boo shoulder. Would/do you allow your daughters to wear a shirt with peek a boo shoulders? Would/do you discourage your sons from hanging out with girls who wear tops with peek a boo shoulders? I think the Church attempts to counsel when there are those who cannot think for themselves. The objective is to be modest; to respect one's body; to be aware that we are sexual beings and be aware of the weakest among us. Our daughter was more often than not modest in her dress. However, there were times when she was not modest in her dress. We never counseled our children on dating based on what others wore or didn't wear. 1
rongo Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Storm Rider said: I agree and If I can walk around naked and feel fine, but you felt I was immodest than you need to control yourself. You obviously have a problem for crying out loud. I home taught two families on the local nudist colony years ago (yeah, they were very inactive). They even had a church called the "Church of the Natural Way." I wish I had taken a picture of the logo as you enter the colony (high hedges surrounded it): blue and white, like a handicapped logo, but with a mother, father, sister, brother holding hands with their backs to you. I hope the church had pew warmers in the winter! 1
Thinking Posted May 17, 2018 Author Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, bluebell said: This is a personal pet peeve of mine because i can't find jeans that don't have holes in them, and at 41 i have no desire to be this kind of trendy! You need to shop at JCPenney.
Storm Rider Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, rongo said: I home taught two families on the local nudist colony years ago (yeah, they were very inactive). They even had a church called the "Church of the Natural Way." I wish I had taken a picture of the logo as you enter the colony (high hedges surrounded it): blue and white, like a handicapped logo, but with a mother, father, sister, brother holding hands with their backs to you. I hope the church had pew warmers in the winter! I was being sarcastic in my response. Marginal's logic was lost on me and I tend to reject such poor leaps of logic. 1
Kenngo1969 Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, bluebell said: This is a personal pet peeve of mine because i can't find jeans that don't have holes in them, and at 41 i have no desire to be this kind of trendy! Ripped jeans are supposed to violate my company's dress code, but apparently, the powers-that-be wink-and-nod at them. All of my supervisors have been considerably younger than I, and two of them have worn ripped jeans. I've asked them, "Did you have to pay extra to get them like that, or did you 'economize' and rip them yourself?" At least one of them laughed and said, "That's what my dad asked." (Ah, the joys of becoming a geezer! ) 1
rongo Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Storm Rider said: I was being sarcastic in my response. Marginal's logic was lost on me and I tend to reject such poor leaps of logic. I know you were. It just triggered some memories . . .
Scott Lloyd Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, bluebell said: This is a personal pet peeve of mine because i can't find jeans that don't have holes in them, and at 41 i have no desire to be this kind of trendy! You really can't find jeans for purchase without holes? I find that hard to believe.
strappinglad Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Some pics of " religious jeans " https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=holes+in+jeans+trend&qpvt=holes+in+jeans+trend&FORM=IGRE
RevTestament Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, Thinking said: You need to shop at JCPenney. Or Kmart if there is still one around. That's where I got my last 2 pair of non-holy jeans. But have no fear, I have consecrated them, and made them holy. (p.s. My guess is you can find them at other non-trendy places like Walmart.)
The Mean Farmer Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, rongo said: Why? My garment sleeves never show, but then, I wear normal shirts. I tease my male high school students wearing muscle shirts sometimes that there has been a change to the dress code, so they're going to have to put on a shirt. You're now only allowed to wear muscle shirts if you have muscles . . . Mine show all the time. I have never seen the need to wear 2 full sized and full sleeved shirts, especially in the summertime. A tank or sleeveless shirt would suffice IMHO.
Jeanne Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 I don't wear garments...but when shopping for levis..or jeans..I always think I should have saved all those holey jeans and made thousands or saved thousands of dollars to be oh...so cool.😋😎
Kenngo1969 Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, Jeanne said: I don't wear garments...but when shopping for levis..or jeans..I always think I should have saved all those holey jeans and made thousands or saved thousands of dollars to be oh...so cool.😋😎 You could've sold 'em on e-Bay and retired on the proceeds! 1
Rock_N_Roll Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, rongo said: Why? My garment sleeves never show, but then, I wear normal shirts. I tease my male high school students wearing muscle shirts sometimes that there has been a change to the dress code, so they're going to have to put on a shirt. You're now only allowed to wear muscle shirts if you have muscles . . . My garment sleeves always show if I wear t-shirts that fit me (large). I could always start buying XL, but then I'd risk wearing clothes that are "too baggy". What to do... 2
Amulek Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, bluebell said: When I was in YWs in the mid 90s, sleeveless stuff was perfectly acceptable. I'm not talking spaghetti straps but sleeveless shirts were no big deal. We wore them on temple trips even and no one, including the bishop, batted an eye. That was about the time frame for me as well. And my memory about the acceptability of sleeveless shirts being worn by young women is the same as yours also. So long as you weren't trying to pass off a vest as being a sleeveless shirt, thereby leaving nothing to the imagination, it wasn't a big deal at all. Don't get me wrong, I can understand the notion that it can be beneficial to become accustomed to wearing the kind of clothing which you will need to wear once you are endowed. But I think we have to be careful about taking such things to extremes. When I see a toddler running around in a sun dress or a halter top, I don't think to myself, "Have you no shame!" 1
Bernard Gui Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 5 hours ago, bluebell said: Most of which are mainly ignored when we teach modesty to the youth. We act like showing shoulders is worse than buying a $1000 purse or $400 headphones or a brand new iPhone every few months that must be shown off for all to see. It's not and we need to get better at helping youth understand that. You have youth that buy those things? No one in my circle can afford such stuff. I will admit, however, that Sister Gui has warned me about buying any more camera equipment.
Bernard Gui Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 5 hours ago, bluebell said: Yes, the existence of men's ties are a good testament to that. Except for my Three Stooges and Jerry Garcia ties. 3
Bernard Gui Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Amulek said: That was about the time frame for me as well. And my memory about the acceptability of sleeveless shirts being worn by young women is the same as yours also. So long as you weren't trying to pass off a vest as being a sleeveless shirt, thereby leaving nothing to the imagination, it wasn't a big deal at all. Don't get me wrong, I can understand the notion that it can be beneficial to become accustomed to wearing the kind of clothing which you will need to wear once you are endowed. But I think we have to be careful about taking such things to extremes. When I see a toddler running around in a sun dress or a halter top, I don't think to myself, "Have you no shame!" I was the high councilman in charge of stake youth dances in the early 90s and sleeveless was on the prohibited items on our dance card, IIRC. Edited May 17, 2018 by Bernard Gui
bluebell Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, Amulek said: When I see a toddler running around in a sun dress or a halter top, I don't think to myself, "Have you no shame!" I agree, but I know quite a few people who won't let their toddler girls wear sundresses to church because, modesty. To me, that's the kind of stuff that shows that we've moved a little beyond the mark. 2
Bernard Gui Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Marginal Gains said: You’re sat in judgement of how others dress, that’s YOUR issue, not theirs. My judgment was on a current fashion is unflattering, silly, and ugly, not on the modesty of looking like you have droopy tricep bags under your arms. Edited May 17, 2018 by Bernard Gui
bluebell Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: You have youth that buy those things? No one in my circle can afford such stuff. I will admit, however, that Sister Gui has warned me about buying any more camera equipment. None in my ward, but in others. And even when the youth aren't buying those things themselves, many often still aspire to be able to. If we knew of youth who were aspiring to be able to wear revealing clothing, we would see that as a problem that needed to be corrected. But I think part of the problem is that a lot of adults struggle with living modestly and so they aren't going to push that aspect when teaching the youth. No one wants to feel like a hypocrite.
Bernard Gui Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 5 hours ago, rongo said: Especially the skinny ones from the 1980s . . . The 60s ties were skinnier. https://goo.gl/images/ZqR5e9
Bernard Gui Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, bluebell said: None in my ward, but in others. And even when the youth aren't buying those things themselves, many often still aspire to be able to. If we knew of youth who were aspiring to be able to wear revealing clothing, we would see that as a problem that needed to be corrected. But I think part of the problem is that a lot of adults struggle with living modestly and so they aren't going to push that aspect when teaching the youth. No one wants to feel like a hypocrite. While I am sure there are those who love those material things more, I can’t think of anyone in my ward or in my circle of friends who thinks this way. Most of us are just scraping along the best we can. On the other hand, a whole lot of folks all around the world get their daily bread from our materialism. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, RevTestament said: Or Kmart if there is still one around. That's where I got my last 2 pair of non-holy jeans. But have no fear, I have consecrated them, and made them holy. (p.s. My guess is you can find them at other non-trendy places like Walmart.) Try Costco.
rongo Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: The 60s ties were skinnier. https://goo.gl/images/ZqR5e9 Even worse than those are the really fat ones from the 70s. Bad color schemes, too.
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