Popular Post rongo Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Posted May 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: Ignoring the problem doesn’t help. It’s not good to have a published standard that one is not willing or able to enforce. Perhaps a private conversation with an understanding adult sister would have been better. What would have been a better way to handle it? In this girl's case, we were all just glad that she was there, and she wasn't drawing attention to herself. She also had been wearing her camp shirt all other times. I think not doing anything would have been the best thing in her case. 5
bluebell Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Just now, Bernard Gui said: Indeed. There are many important aspects of modesty. Most of which are mainly ignored when we teach modesty to the youth. We act like showing shoulders is worse than buying a $1000 purse or $400 headphones or a brand new iPhone every few months that must be shown off for all to see. It's not and we need to get better at helping youth understand that. 1
Bernard Gui Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, bluebell said: Here are a couple examples of the peek-a-boo shoulder. While I think the style is kind of funny looking, I don't think that it's immodest and for someone who hasn't been endowed, I don't have a problem with it. Never underestimate the silliness of fashions. 2
bluebell Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 1 minute ago, rongo said: In this girl's case, we were all just glad that she was there, and she wasn't drawing attention to herself. She also had been wearing her camp shirt all other times. I think not doing anything would have been the best thing in her case. Yes. We should never let a problem to be solved become more important than a person to be loved. 4
Popular Post bluebell Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Posted May 17, 2018 Just now, Bernard Gui said: Never underestimate the silliness of fashions. Yes, the existence of men's ties are a good testament to that. 8
rongo Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Just now, bluebell said: Yes, the existence of men's ties are a good testament to that. Especially the skinny ones from the 1980s . . . 1
Oliblish Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 What seems to be even more popular is the peek a boo knee.
Exiled Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 13 hours ago, Thinking said: The peek a boo shoulder is very popular right now. I'm curious what the posters on this board think of the peek a boo shoulder. Would/do you allow your daughters to wear a shirt with peek a boo shoulders? Would/do you discourage your sons from hanging out with girls who wear tops with peek a boo shoulders? Let the youth play peek a boo with their shoulders. It's just another fashion fad that will fade with time. It's better than the mid-riff that I wouldn't want my daughter (if I had one) to wear out in public.
Atheist Mormon Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 12 hours ago, carbon dioxide said: I say lets just bring the burka into LDS practice. Then we can cover those ankles and wrists and everything else. Why do you say that?Even Brigham Young wasn't like that.
bluebell Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, Oliblish said: What seems to be even more popular is the peek a boo knee. This is a personal pet peeve of mine because i can't find jeans that don't have holes in them, and at 41 i have no desire to be this kind of trendy! 2
rongo Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, bluebell said: This is a personal pet peeve of mine because i can't find jeans that don't have holes in them, and at 41 i have no desire to be this kind of trendy! We have to order our sons' jeans online because stores don't carry their sizes (the waist to length ratios are rare). That's the only way to find jeans that fit them. 1
Marginal Gains Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Bernard Gui said: Not so. Modesty is a positive and powerful attribute of one’s character that demonstrates respect for social and religious conventions, for self, and for others. It can be nurtured and celebrated and it can be debased and destroyed. You’re sat in judgement of how others dress, that’s YOUR issue, not theirs.
cinepro Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, bluebell said: Here are a couple examples of the peek-a-boo shoulder. While I think the style is kind of funny looking, I don't think that it's immodest and for someone who hasn't been endowed, I don't have a problem with it. Hey, how about a NSFW warning. Some of us might work in Utah! 2
cinepro Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Exiled said: Let the youth play peek a boo with their shoulders. It's just another fashion fad that will fade with time. It's better than the mid-riff that I wouldn't want my daughter (if I had one) to wear out in public. But no jeggings! * *(Link is to a comedy bit with some blurred out immodesty and bleeped out words - but probably considered PG-13). 1
CA Steve Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 If this were a 100 years ago, we would be discussing prophetic statements on exposed female ankles. 1
cinepro Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, sunstoned said: When did bare shoulders become immodest? It didn't use to be that way in the church. BYU homecoming queens in the 1960's routinely wore strap dresses. Modesty is one thing, but the church has taken this to an obsession. It has become so bad that female angels in illustrations of classic works of art now have cap shoulders photo shopped on them (http://www.dovesandserpents.org/wp/2012/05/on-immodest-angels/). I have a theory about this. When I was a kid in the 80s, there was a family in my ward that encouraged their kids to always wear clothes that would be garment-friendly. So while I was wearing tank-tops and muscle shirts in fourth grade, my friend always had to wear t-shirts. And while my Adidas shorts were comfortably short and snug, his shorts were always "board" shorts that reached the knee. Thank goodness Jams came into fashion by sixth grade. I suspect this trend grew wider in the Church, and the perception (and definition) of "modesty" expanded from the traditional "don't wear bikinis or stuff that shows a lot of skin that might turn someone else on" to also include "wear stuff that would be garment friendly if you were wearing garments." Over time, these two different definitions stopped being viewed separately. So when we are told not to expose our shoulders, it's based on the idea that we shouldn't wear non-garment friendly clothes. But since modesty more commonly (and obviously) relates to inciting lust in others, we somehow believe that someone thinks bare shoulders are lust-inducing. Oddly, this has apparently become an Article of Faith in the exmormon community, where the insistence is that all Mormons view bare shoulders this way, so they call them "porn-shoulders." But sadly, a recent focus on "modesty" among the young women in my ward indicates they might not be too far off. Anyhow, that's my theory. Edited May 17, 2018 by cinepro 4
cinepro Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, CA Steve said: If this were a 100 years ago, we would be discussing prophetic statements on exposed female ankles. Or skating rinks... 1
bluebell Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, cinepro said: Hey, how about a NSFW warning. Some of us might work in Utah!
bluebell Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, CA Steve said: If this were a 100 years ago, we would be discussing prophetic statements on exposed female ankles. Yep!
Jeanne Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Marginal Gains said: Once again the point is missed. Immodesty is in the eye of the beholder. If you have a modesty problem with a peekaboo shoulder, that is YOUR problem. Learn to control yourself for crying out loud! Well I agree...I have learned to contain myself when young men take their shirts off to mow the lawn...it is hard..but I do okay...😎
Exiled Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, cinepro said: But no jeggings! * *(Link is to a comedy bit with some blurred out immodesty and bleeped out words - but probably considered PG-13). That was hillarious ... and so were the other videos
Exiled Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, cinepro said: Or skating rinks... We live in troubled times where skating rinks abound, inciting promiscuous thoughts and dreams of stanley cups for my fellow las vegans.
JAHS Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 "Marty, Pull out your pants pockets. All kids in the future wear their pants inside-out.”
cinepro Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jeanne said: Well I agree...I have learned to contain myself when young men take their shirts off to mow the lawn...it is hard..but I do okay...😎 On my mission, we had an older member who would mow the lawn at the meetinghouse, and in the summer he would sometimes just wear his garment top!
Jeanne Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) ☺️ That must have been so attractive...glad I missed that...at the gym..I really have to contain myself. Edited May 17, 2018 by Jeanne
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