Penthouse doesn't like Church's anti-porn stance

[Scott Lloyd]

Oh my.

It appears we have upset Penthouse magazine.

To be clear, I'll mention the Church, I don't think has weighed in on this legislation. But as is so often the case the Church is getting blamed for it because we are so repressive and controlling.

As for me, I'm inclined to view Penthouse's disapproval as a badge of honor.

[USU78]

Ridiculous children 

[waveslider]

Satan doesn't like our stance either.

 

[salgare]

Do you suppose this is good publicity for the Church? BoM on the cover of porn mags etc.  Perhaps the Church should have learned their lesson long ago over the oral sex deal.  i.e. that they should stay out of personal aspects of peoples lives. Perhaps the Church should have leaved their lesson long ago over prop 8, i.e. that they should stay out of politics.

Seems they would be much better off letting the missionaries and controlled channels tell their story verse Larry Flinn and the likes.  But they just never seem to learn.

 

"In a parting shot, the magazine has a 12-page photo spread titled "Sister Wives," where two models first appear in outfits intended to make them look like polygamists before they disrobe. "

 

oh my

Edited August 3, 2016 by salgare

[ALarson]

28 minutes ago, salgare said:

BoM on the cover of porn mags etc.

Um...that's not the Book of Mormon on the cover (or the Governor!). 

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Edited August 3, 2016 by ALarson

[waveslider]

6 minutes ago, salgare said:

Do you suppose this is good publicity for the Church? BoM on the cover of porn mags etc.  Perhaps the Church should have learned their lesson long ago over the oral sex deal.  i.e. that they should stay out of personal aspects of peoples lives. Perhaps the Church should have leaved their lesson long ago over prop 8, i.e. that they should stay out of politics.

Seems they would be much better off letting the missionaries and controlled channels tell their story verse Larry Flinn and the likes.  But they just never seem to learn.

 

 

Who knows, it may spur a more thorough look into the BOM if it is on the cover. Kind of like how having that bad play called the Book Of Mormon actually brought a lot of interest into the BOM and actually brought in converts that wouldn't have otherwise looked into the church at this time.

[JLHPROF]

"Penthouse doesn't like Church's anti-porn stance"

In other news...water is wet.

[smac97]

10 minutes ago, salgare said:

Do you suppose this is good publicity for the Church? BoM on the cover of porn mags etc. 

Well, perhaps.  The Church is making its stance known.  That stance will, in this age of moral depravity, subject the Church to ridicule.  How the Church responds to that, I think, is noteworthy.  In the main, the Church continues to make its position clear, but otherwise ignores the ridicule.  In some unique circumstances, the Church may even take advantage of supposedly adverse publicity (witness the Church's decision to put an ad for The Book of Mormon in the playbills for the incredibly profane Broadway play, The Book of Mormon).

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Perhaps the Church should have learned their lesson long ago over the oral sex deal.  i.e. that they should stay out of personal aspects of peoples lives.

I think the Church does a pretty good job there.  The Church is not being unduly intrusive when it instructs its members regarding pornography, or adultery, or other behaviors incompatible with the covenants we make as members of the Church.

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Perhaps the Church should have leaved their lesson long ago over prop 8, i.e. that they should stay out of politics.

How is porn purely a political issue?  Can you perhaps grant that it is more than that?

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Seems they would be much better off letting the missionaries and controlled channels tell their story verse Larry Flinn and the likes.  But they just never seem to learn.

I don't know what you mean here.

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"In a parting shot, the magazine has a 12-page photo spread titled "Sister Wives," where two models first appear in outfits intended to make them look like polygamists before they disrobe. "

oh my

 

Shock schlock.  That's all it is.  Are you seriously suggesting that the Church should withdraw from attempting to fulfill its mandate out of fear of ridicule in the pages of a porn magazine?

Thanks,

-Smac

[ALarson]

29 minutes ago, salgare said:

 Perhaps the Church should have learned their lesson long ago over the oral sex deal.  i.e. that they should stay out of personal aspects of peoples lives.

Say what?  When was this?

[jkwilliams]

4 minutes ago, ALarson said:

Say what?  When was this?

I'm assuming salgare is referring to this. 

http://www.lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter1.shtml

Edited August 3, 2016 by jkwilliams

[TheSkepticChristian]

1 hour ago, Scott Lloyd said:

To be clear, I'll mention the Church, I don't think has weighed in on this legislation.

Good! that is some progress 

1 hour ago, smac97 said:

 in this age of moral depravity,

Porn is evil when you make it evil, porn is good when you make it good. 

It is all in your mind dude!

Some doctors even recommend porn to couples. 

 

[MorningStar]

It's so hard when you lose the respect of Penthouse. 

[JulieM]

1 hour ago, ALarson said:

Um...that's not the Book of Mormon on the cover (or the Governor!). 

And the caption? Wow

"Utah's Governor wants to handle your p***s"??? 

[Scott Lloyd]

2 hours ago, salgare said:

Do you suppose this is good publicity for the Church? BoM on the cover of porn mags etc.  Perhaps the Church should have learned their lesson long ago over the oral sex deal.  i.e. that they should stay out of personal aspects of peoples lives. Perhaps the Church should have leaved their lesson long ago over prop 8, i.e. that they should stay out of politics.

Seems they would be much better off letting the missionaries and controlled channels tell their story verse Larry Flinn and the likes.  But they just never seem to learn.

 

"In a parting shot, the magazine has a 12-page photo spread titled "Sister Wives," where two models first appear in outfits intended to make them look like polygamists before they disrobe. "

 

oh my

Seriously? You think it's bad publicity for the Church that it is disapproved by a porn magazine?

[ALarson]

1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

I'm assuming salgare is referring to this. 

http://www.lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter1.shtml

Ok.  I hadn't seen that letter.  Hopefully it's not still in effect, right?

[Robert F. Smith]

2 hours ago, salgare said:

Do you suppose this is good publicity for the Church? BoM on the cover of porn mags etc.  Perhaps the Church should have learned their lesson long ago over the oral sex deal.  i.e. that they should stay out of personal aspects of peoples lives. Perhaps the Church should have leaved their lesson long ago over prop 8, i.e. that they should stay out of politics.

Seems they would be much better off letting the missionaries and controlled channels tell their story verse Larry Flinn and the likes.  But they just never seem to learn.

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That's right.  Let's blame the victim.

[TheSkepticChristian]

3 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said:

Oh my.

I want to know how is porn harmful? You think pornography makes sexual predators? 

Did you know that all the solid democratic states are doing better than Utah? How sad! 

In fact six of the top ten states are "Solid Democratic" 

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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/03/opinion/sutter-alaska-rape-list/ 

here's the list of states and Washington, D.C., starting with those where rape is least frequently reported 

Rates are the number of reported forcible rapes per 100,000 people.

1. New Jersey - 11.7

2. New York - 14.6

3. Virginia - 17.7

4. Vermont - 19.3

5. North Carolina - 20.3

6. Hawaii - 20.5

7. California - 20.6

8. Maryland - 21

9. Wisconsin - 21.3

10. Georgia - 21.4

11. West Virginia - 22.7

12. Massachusetts - 24.7

13. Missouri - 25.1

14. Louisiana - 25.2

15. Indiana - 25.5

16. Connecticut - 25.6

17. Pennsylvania - 26.1

18. Delaware - 26.5

19. Wyoming - 26.7

20. Alabama - 26.9

21. Florida - 27.2

22. Rhode Island - 27.4

23. Mississippi - 27.5

24. Illinois - 27.7

25. Maine - 28

26. Iowa - 28.3

27. Kentucky - 29

28. Oregon - 29.2

29. Texas - 29.6

30. Idaho - 30

31. Minnesota - 30.5

32. Tennessee - 31.5

33. Ohio - 31.7

34. Washington - 31.8

35. Utah - 33

36. Nevada - 33.7

37. New Hampshire - 34

38. Arizona - 34.7

39. South Carolina - 35.5

40. Kansas - 36.5

41. District of Columbia - 37.3

42. Montana - 37.7

43. Nebraska - 38.3

44. North Dakota 38.9

45. Colorado - 40.7

46. Oklahoma - 41.6

47. Arkansas - 42.3

48. New Mexico - 45.9

49. Michigan - 46.4

50. South Dakota - 70.2

51. Alaska - 79.7

 

Edited August 4, 2016 by TheSkepticChristian

[waveslider]

1 hour ago, TheSkepticChristian said:

Good! that is some progress 

Porn is evil when you make it evil, porn is good when you make it good. 

It is all in your mind dude!

Some doctors even recommend porn to couples. 

 

Doctors aren't infallible. How about a different perspective on the evils of porn, coming from one of the most evil people, as his last words here on Earth before being executed in capital punishment for his crimes: https://youtu.be/xwyIOmjvvd8

Porn is evil, period.

 

[TheSkepticChristian]

27 minutes ago, waveslider said:

Porn is evil, period.

You think porn creates sexual predators? Look at the data, all the solid democratic states are doing much better than Utah! How sad! In fact six of the top ten states are "Solid Democratic"   

 

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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/03/opinion/sutter-alaska-rape-list/ 

here's the list of states and Washington, D.C., starting with those where rape is least frequently reported 

Rates are the number of reported forcible rapes per 100,000 people.

1. New Jersey - 11.7

2. New York - 14.6

3. Virginia - 17.7

4. Vermont - 19.3

5. North Carolina - 20.3

6. Hawaii - 20.5

7. California - 20.6

8. Maryland - 21

9. Wisconsin - 21.3

10. Georgia - 21.4

11. West Virginia - 22.7

12. Massachusetts - 24.7

13. Missouri - 25.1

14. Louisiana - 25.2

15. Indiana - 25.5

16. Connecticut - 25.6

17. Pennsylvania - 26.1

18. Delaware - 26.5

19. Wyoming - 26.7

20. Alabama - 26.9

21. Florida - 27.2

22. Rhode Island - 27.4

23. Mississippi - 27.5

24. Illinois - 27.7

25. Maine - 28

26. Iowa - 28.3

27. Kentucky - 29

28. Oregon - 29.2

29. Texas - 29.6

30. Idaho - 30

31. Minnesota - 30.5

32. Tennessee - 31.5

33. Ohio - 31.7

34. Washington - 31.8

35. Utah - 33

36. Nevada - 33.7

37. New Hampshire - 34

38. Arizona - 34.7

39. South Carolina - 35.5

40. Kansas - 36.5

41. District of Columbia - 37.3

42. Montana - 37.7

43. Nebraska - 38.3

44. North Dakota 38.9

45. Colorado - 40.7

46. Oklahoma - 41.6

47. Arkansas - 42.3

48. New Mexico - 45.9

49. Michigan - 46.4

50. South Dakota - 70.2

51. Alaska - 79.7

 

Edited August 4, 2016 by TheSkepticChristian

[waveslider]

It sounds like it does to me, when I listen to Ted Bundy's interview about himself and his fellow prison inmates.

It is no surprise that the more Mormon states have a higher rate. It was also apparent in the Book Of Mormon that those who fell away and turned to evil practices were far worse than just the regular Lamanites who were born without knowledge of the truth.

I certainly haven't ever heard of any redeeming qualities that have come about because of porn.

[Vance]

"Rates are the number of reported forcible rapes per 100,000 people."

 

Does not equal number of rapes per 100,000.  Your data may simply be an indication that conservatives are more likely to REPORT a rape than a liberal.

 

Just sayin.

[Calm]

Looks like an easy way for the magazine to drum up publicity for itself. They have recently been able to turn their operating in the red into a profit, this gives them lots of free advertising.

[Thinking]

In other news, I really do not like the San Francisco Giants.

[Thinking]

I think you all should follow the example of the LDS leaders.

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The LDS Church did not respond to a request for comment.

 

[TheSkepticChristian]

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Edited August 4, 2016 by TheSkepticChristian