How Bad Is the Exodus?

[Scott Lloyd]

9 minutes ago, SkyRock said:

Different times for sure, but now anyone can toke up as long as it is "medical".  

 

[Saint Bonaventure]

57 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said:

The degree to which the alcohol is burned off would obviously be a bigger issue for an observant Latter-day Saint than it would be for others. It’s like the relative importance of kosher foods to observant Jews compared to others. 

That makes sense.

At some point, a person could become overly scrupulous about such things, but I do appreciate piety.

Here's a fun article on foods with trace amounts of alcohol:

Common Foods With Hidden Alcohol: Are They Safe For Pregnancy? — Baby2Body

[Scott Lloyd]

1 hour ago, Senator said:

FIxed it

When I said “an observant Latter-day Saint,” I meant one who is typical. I didn’t say it was universal among observant Latter-day Saints. 
 

A tad hypersensitive today, are we? 

[Calm]

4 hours ago, Senator said:

FIxed it

Banned behaviours:

”Altering members’ quotes on the board”

https://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/66539-board-guidelines-update-please-review-before-posting/

 

[Hamba Tuhan]

4 hours ago, Saint Bonaventure said:

At some point, a person could become overly scrupulous about such things, but I do appreciate piety.

Precisely. I'm a practical man, and I try to be consistent in my piety. Southern Comfort sold in the UK is exactly 35 per alcohol. America's FDA requires vanilla extract to be a minimum of 35 per cent alcohol.

I can either be scrupulous about both substances when used as a flavouring, or I can not worry about either.

And if I want to be super scrupulous, I would need to cease eating out full stop, and in some cases avoid entire cuisines at home. Chinese, Korean, and Japanese dishes are frequently cooked with rice wine, and the instant miso paste that I just used to make up a mug of soup is 3.7 per cent alcohol according to the label. The Korean gochujung (glutinous red chilli paste) that I used in my tofu and kimchi stew last night contains alcohol as well, though I'm not sure of the percentage.

When I was studying in America, I worked one summer at a coastal restaurant, and we had a complete list of ingredients for every dish that we could consult if a customer had a question. My memory is that nearly half of all dishes were prepared with alcohol. All of our grilled seafood was cooked with sherry. Our crab cakes included brandy. Cider was used in making our popular French onion soup, and our cheesy broccoli soup included beer. The tomato sauce that went on our chicken parmigiana and pasta and was served with the mozzarella cheese sticks was made with red wine. And of course, many of our desserts and breakfast foods (like French toast) were made with vanilla!

Thankfully, as the Church's Gospel Topic entry makes clear, this law proscribes 'alcoholic drinks', not every single food that does or may contain alcohol -- like American hamburger rolls (1.2 per cent alcohol!) and ripe bananas.

[Kenngo1969]

8 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said:

 

You know what's funny?  That song came out the year after I was born, but at the rate states are approving so-called "medical" marijuana (not to mention its recreational counterpart) it could've been released yesterday.  

[HappyJackWagon]

20 hours ago, bluebell said:

For me it just depends.  Coffee tastes disgusting (at least it smells disgusting) so I'm a solid no on food with that in it.  I've never come up against food with tea in it but I guess it would depend on it's form.  But with alcohol it depends on how it was cooked.  If the booze is cooked off (like in most sauces) then I'm good, but if it's a baked good then no thanks.

My wife makes a chocolate cake with coffee. It is the deepest, richest chocolate cake I've ever had. And I eat a lot of cake.    

[Kenngo1969]

1 hour ago, HappyJackWagon said:

My wife makes a chocolate cake with coffee. It is the deepest, richest chocolate cake I've ever had. And I eat a lot of cake.    

Heathen!  

Get Thee hence, Satan!  

  

[Senator]

16 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said:

When I said “an observant Latter-day Saint,” I meant one who is typical. I didn’t say it was universal among observant Latter-day Saints. 
 

A tad hypersensitive today, are we? 

Not in the least

[Senator]

12 hours ago, Calm said:

Banned behaviours:

”Altering members’ quotes on the board”

https://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/66539-board-guidelines-update-please-review-before-posting/

 

Oh please!

[Calm]

1 hour ago, Senator said:

Oh please!

I personally don’t have a problem with it for a little teasing here and there, but I respect the moderators and remember they ding even those kinds of alterations, so just reminding everyone this is not allowed.

[Scott Lloyd]

2 hours ago, Senator said:

Not in the least

Really?  Because it came across as gratuitous. 

[Tacenda]

15 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said:

Precisely. I'm a practical man, and I try to be consistent in my piety. Southern Comfort sold in the UK is exactly 35 per alcohol. America's FDA requires vanilla extract to be a minimum of 35 per cent alcohol.

I can either be scrupulous about both substances when used as a flavouring, or I can not worry about either.

And if I want to be super scrupulous, I would need to cease eating out full stop, and in some cases avoid entire cuisines at home. Chinese, Korean, and Japanese dishes are frequently cooked with rice wine, and the instant miso paste that I just used to make up a mug of soup is 3.7 per cent alcohol according to the label. The Korean gochujung (glutinous red chilli paste) that I used in my tofu and kimchi stew last night contains alcohol as well, though I'm not sure of the percentage.

When I was studying in America, I worked one summer at a coastal restaurant, and we had a complete list of ingredients for every dish that we could consult if a customer had a question. My memory is that nearly half of all dishes were prepared with alcohol. All of our grilled seafood was cooked with sherry. Our crab cakes included brandy. Cider was used in making our popular French onion soup, and our cheesy broccoli soup included beer. The tomato sauce that went on our chicken parmigiana and pasta and was served with the mozzarella cheese sticks was made with red wine. And of course, many of our desserts and breakfast foods (like French toast) were made with vanilla!

Thankfully, as the Church's Gospel Topic entry makes clear, this law proscribes 'alcoholic drinks', not every single food that does or may contain alcohol -- like American hamburger rolls (1.2 per cent alcohol!) and ripe bananas.

So true! I think people go way too nutso on worrying about alcohol in food. If they're worried to that extent they better not eat their favorite chocolate chip cookie because it has alcohol from the vanilla. 

[SeekingUnderstanding]

1 hour ago, Scott Lloyd said:

Really?  Because it came across as gratuitous. 

One of the two of you is coming across as hyper sensitive. That’s for sure. 

[Senator]

2 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said:

Really?  Because it came across as gratuitous. 

That's unfortunate that you took it that way.  I'm glad at least one other caught the intended and light hearted, "little teasing here and there" nature of my post.

[MiserereNobis]

On 9/27/2022 at 3:12 PM, Saint Bonaventure said:

Good coffee is wonderful. I drink coffee ground by monks in Wyoming that is just heavenly. During the Crusades, some folks though coffee was evil because the Muslims drank it. But heaven intervened with Pope Clement VIII, who said "it would be a pity to let the infidels have exclusive use of it."

Indeed!

If you want to switch things up sometime, the monastery closest to my house (1 1/2 hours away) has great coffee, too:

https://www.abbeyroast.com

 

[MiserereNobis]

On 9/27/2022 at 4:06 PM, ksfisher said:

I personally avoid things such as this.  I know that what I do really doesn't make much of a difference to these companies, but I don't like the idea of my money going into the pockets of liquor manufacturers. 

Which is a great reason to have your own personal distillery. You could share with other LDS who are into making fine sauces 😁

[MiserereNobis]

On 9/27/2022 at 9:37 PM, Hamba Tuhan said:

and ripe bananas.

Egads! We gotta watch out for those risky bananas. Not only do they contain alcohol, but they are also radioactive.