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30 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Hahahaha!!! That's interesting how many things mean that word, lol.

And then you take into account my sometimes juvenile sense of humor that loves fart jokes... ;o

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45 minutes ago, Vanguard said:

And then you take into account my sometimes juvenile sense of humor that loves fart jokes... ;o

In German "Fahrt" means a ride or journey.

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5 hours ago, T-Shirt said:

The Church stopped using, "bishop's court" more than twenty years ago.

Yes, I noticed that some items on that list are several degrees removed from current terminology. It’s as though the compiler of the list, like Rip Van Winkle, went to sleep 50 years ago, has just awakened and is only now observing that there have been some changes in the Church. 

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25 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said:

Yes, I noticed that some items on that list are several degrees removed from current terminology. It’s as though the compiler of the list, like Rip Van Winkle, went to sleep 50 years ago, has just awakened and is only now observing that there have been some changes in the Church. 

Or they were just being thorough because even if some terms are not in official use doesn’t mean there aren’t people somewhere using them. 
 

Here’s a list from the 7th edition of the Church’s style guide of names and terms that are no longer in use by the Church. Take a look and see if any of them surprise you—plus, it helps to be aware of words you may currently be using that you might want to avoid in the future.”

The 7th edition apparently doesn’t say they were recently discarded, just that they were once used and are not officially used at this time, if it mirrors the 6th edition. 
 

In fact, my guess is they simply keep the same list and add any newly discarded ones to it rather than just a list of the ones recently discarded. 
 

Here is the previous edition’s list, which includes all the older, discarded ones, I believe.  Anyone have a link to the 5th or older editions?
 

Area Authority Seventy (but Area Seventy)

Area Supervisor (General Authority) Assistant to the Twelve (General Authority)

auxiliary
bishop’s court (but ward membership council)
bishopric youth committee (but ward youth council)
Church-service missionary (but service missionary)
disfellowship, disfellowshipment
Duty to God
excommunication
Faith in God
family home evening (but home evening)
First Council of the Seventy (but First Quorum of the Seventy)
general board (but general advisory council)

general women’s meeting (but women’s session)

Gospel Essentials, Gospel Principles, Gospel Doctrine
class
high priests group leader
homemaking meeting (Relief Society)
home teaching
Inspired Version (but Joseph Smith Translation)
junior Primary
Mutual
New Beginnings
personal priesthood interview (but priesthood interview)
Personal Progress
regional representative
regional representatives’ seminar
servicemen’s group (but service member group) visiting teaching
welfare committee (stake or ward)

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Hmm…they have trimmed it a lot. Maybe they’ve tracked what is popping up in submissions.  I have seen people using bishop’s court quite a bit. Mutual is pretty rare in casual conversation, but maybe there are a lot of older writers submitting articles and stories. 

Here is the fourth edition, the list of obsolete terms is at the end, just like the 6th.  I think it was published in 2009.  As usual, the Church is way behind in updating some of their own website.

https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/bc/providentliving/content/english/welfareoperationstraining/employmentresourcecenter/pdf/Style_Guide.pdf?lang=eng
 

This was formatted so I could get it all in one go, so even though much, much longer, I decided to copy it for the lazy readers who don’t like clicking on links. :)

 

Aaronic Priesthood adult [member] Aaronic Priesthood–Adult [program] Aaronic Priesthood MIA
Aaronic Priesthood–Youth [program] achievement award
Area Authority Seventy
Area Supervisor, General Authority
area supervisor, Presiding Bishopric
assistant in charge of activities (or of age-groups) [YMMIA]
Assistant to the Twelve [General Authority]
assistant to the youth executive secretary [bishop’s youth
committee]
athletic program
bandlo [not bandelo]
bishop’s court
bishop’s Sunday evening discussion (for youth)
Blazer program (or class, etc.) [Primary]
Campcrafter (certificate, certification program) [Young Women’s program]
certificate of achievement program Children’s Friend, the
Church builder [formerly labor missionary] Church historian
conference, Sunday School (or Primary, Relief Society, June)
coordinator, junior Sunday School correlated report(s)
correlated reporting system correlation council, ward (or stake) cottage meeting(s)
CTR A (or B) [Primary; now CTR 5, 6 , 7, and 8] Cultural Refinement lesson (or teacher, etc.) [Relief
Society]
day camp program
Deacon Committee [general Church committee] “Dear to My Heart” night
Deseret Club(s) [student association]
Deseret Sunday School Union, the
Duty to God Trail award
elders’ court
Ensign [YMMIA]
Executive Administrator [General Authority]
Family Relations class [Sunday School]
female Young Adult (or Special Interest) ward representative
first assistant superintendent
First Council of the Seventy, the
Genealogical Department
genealogical library, branch/Branch Genealogical Library
general secretary [Aaronic Priesthood—Youth] general secretary—youth
general superintendency
general superintendent
Gleaner [YWMIA]
gold and green ball
Golden Gleaner (award), (honorary)
Golden Questions, the
Gospel Essentials class [Sunday School]
Historian’s Office, the Church
Home and Family Education lesson (or teacher, etc.) [Re- lief Society]
Homemaking meeting [Relief Society] Improvement Era, the
Indian student placement service Individual Award, an
Instructor, the
International Magazine
June conference
junior Primary
junior Sunday School (coordinator, chorister, room, etc.)
kit, (Targeteer A, etc.)
library packet
M Man [YMMIA]
M Man–Gleaner class [use en dash]
M Men and Gleaners
male Young Adult (or Special Interest) ward representative
Master M Man (award), (honorary) [YMMIA]
Master M Man–Golden Gleaner program [use en dash] Melchizedek Priesthood MIA
Merrie Miss A (or B) class (or teacher, etc.) [Primary]
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MIA theme
Millennial Star, the
Missionary Home, the [Salt Lake City]
Mother Education lesson (or teacher, etc.) [Relief Society]
Mutual Improvement Association(s); MIA
Mutual Interests group
name tabulation program, the
packet, (Targeteer A, teacher’s, etc.)
parent-and-youth program
parent-youth night
Penny Parade
Personal Achievement Award [YWMIA]
personal achievement goals (or journal, program, record book) [YWMIA]
personal priesthood interview [now priesthood interview]
pre-Primary
priesthood personal achievement program
priests group leader
Primary Association
Primary Children’s Hospital
Primary conference
record of membership/Record of Membership records tabulation (or R-tab) program
regional representative(s)
regional representatives’ seminar
Relief Society conference
Relief Society Magazine, the
sacrament gem [Sunday School]
second assistant superintendent
Senior Aaronic
senior president of the stake seventies quorum senior Sunday School
service and activities committee
seventies group (leader)
seventies quorum
seventy (-ies)
seven-year medallion
singing mothers’ chorus
Special Interest (activity, class, group)
Spiritual Living lesson (or teacher, etc.) [Relief Society] sports-camp director
stake correlation council
standards night
Star A (or B) class [Primary]
Sunday School conference
superintendent, (Sunday School, YMMIA) supervision-in-teaching program
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Targeteer A (or B) class [Primary]
teacher’s kit
teaching aids kit (or packet)
Temple Records Index Bureau, the
Treasures of Truth book [YWMIA]
Valiant A (or B) [Primary; now Valiant 9, 10, 11, and 12] Venturer [Scouting]
ward correlation council
Young Adult (activity, class, council, group)
Young Adult ward representative, (female, male)
Young Marrieds class
Young Men’s Mutual Improvement Association; YMMIA
Young Special Interest (activity, class, council, group)
Young Woman’s Journal, the
Young Women committee, (ward, stake)
Young Women’s Mutual Improvement Association; YWMIA
Youth executive secretary
Zone Adviser [General Authority]

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1 hour ago, Calm said:

Hmm…they have trimmed it a lot. Maybe they’ve tracked what is popping up in submissions.  I have seen people using bishop’s court quite a bit. Mutual is pretty rare in casual conversation, but maybe there are a lot of older writers submitting articles and stories. 

Here is the fourth edition, the list of obsolete terms is at the end, just like the 6th.  I think it was published in 2009.  As usual, the Church is way behind in updating some of their own website.

https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/bc/providentliving/content/english/welfareoperationstraining/employmentresourcecenter/pdf/Style_Guide.pdf?lang=eng
 

This was formatted so I could get it all in one go, so even though much, much longer, I decided to copy it for the lazy readers who don’t like clicking on links. :)

 

Aaronic Priesthood adult [member] Aaronic Priesthood–Adult [program] Aaronic Priesthood MIA
Aaronic Priesthood–Youth [program] achievement award
Area Authority Seventy
Area Supervisor, General Authority
area supervisor, Presiding Bishopric
assistant in charge of activities (or of age-groups) [YMMIA]
Assistant to the Twelve [General Authority]
assistant to the youth executive secretary [bishop’s youth
committee]
athletic program
bandlo [not bandelo]
bishop’s court
bishop’s Sunday evening discussion (for youth)
Blazer program (or class, etc.) [Primary]
Campcrafter (certificate, certification program) [Young Women’s program]
certificate of achievement program Children’s Friend, the
Church builder [formerly labor missionary] Church historian
conference, Sunday School (or Primary, Relief Society, June)
coordinator, junior Sunday School correlated report(s)
correlated reporting system correlation council, ward (or stake) cottage meeting(s)
CTR A (or B) [Primary; now CTR 5, 6 , 7, and 8] Cultural Refinement lesson (or teacher, etc.) [Relief
Society]
day camp program
Deacon Committee [general Church committee] “Dear to My Heart” night
Deseret Club(s) [student association]
Deseret Sunday School Union, the
Duty to God Trail award
elders’ court
Ensign [YMMIA]
Executive Administrator [General Authority]
Family Relations class [Sunday School]
female Young Adult (or Special Interest) ward representative
first assistant superintendent
First Council of the Seventy, the
Genealogical Department
genealogical library, branch/Branch Genealogical Library
general secretary [Aaronic Priesthood—Youth] general secretary—youth
general superintendency
general superintendent
Gleaner [YWMIA]
gold and green ball
Golden Gleaner (award), (honorary)
Golden Questions, the
Gospel Essentials class [Sunday School]
Historian’s Office, the Church
Home and Family Education lesson (or teacher, etc.) [Re- lief Society]
Homemaking meeting [Relief Society] Improvement Era, the
Indian student placement service Individual Award, an
Instructor, the
International Magazine
June conference
junior Primary
junior Sunday School (coordinator, chorister, room, etc.)
kit, (Targeteer A, etc.)
library packet
M Man [YMMIA]
M Man–Gleaner class [use en dash]
M Men and Gleaners
male Young Adult (or Special Interest) ward representative
Master M Man (award), (honorary) [YMMIA]
Master M Man–Golden Gleaner program [use en dash] Melchizedek Priesthood MIA
Merrie Miss A (or B) class (or teacher, etc.) [Primary]
85

MIA theme
Millennial Star, the
Missionary Home, the [Salt Lake City]
Mother Education lesson (or teacher, etc.) [Relief Society]
Mutual Improvement Association(s); MIA
Mutual Interests group
name tabulation program, the
packet, (Targeteer A, teacher’s, etc.)
parent-and-youth program
parent-youth night
Penny Parade
Personal Achievement Award [YWMIA]
personal achievement goals (or journal, program, record book) [YWMIA]
personal priesthood interview [now priesthood interview]
pre-Primary
priesthood personal achievement program
priests group leader
Primary Association
Primary Children’s Hospital
Primary conference
record of membership/Record of Membership records tabulation (or R-tab) program
regional representative(s)
regional representatives’ seminar
Relief Society conference
Relief Society Magazine, the
sacrament gem [Sunday School]
second assistant superintendent
Senior Aaronic
senior president of the stake seventies quorum senior Sunday School
service and activities committee
seventies group (leader)
seventies quorum
seventy (-ies)
seven-year medallion
singing mothers’ chorus
Special Interest (activity, class, group)
Spiritual Living lesson (or teacher, etc.) [Relief Society] sports-camp director
stake correlation council
standards night
Star A (or B) class [Primary]
Sunday School conference
superintendent, (Sunday School, YMMIA) supervision-in-teaching program
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Targeteer A (or B) class [Primary]
teacher’s kit
teaching aids kit (or packet)
Temple Records Index Bureau, the
Treasures of Truth book [YWMIA]
Valiant A (or B) [Primary; now Valiant 9, 10, 11, and 12] Venturer [Scouting]
ward correlation council
Young Adult (activity, class, council, group)
Young Adult ward representative, (female, male)
Young Marrieds class
Young Men’s Mutual Improvement Association; YMMIA
Young Special Interest (activity, class, council, group)
Young Woman’s Journal, the
Young Women committee, (ward, stake)
Young Women’s Mutual Improvement Association; YWMIA
Youth executive secretary
Zone Adviser [General Authority]

One outdated term on the list that people seem particularly loathe to let go of is “Area Authority Seventy.” It seems like I see that, and it’s predecessor, Area Authority, all the time in casual communication,  yet, if I’m not mistaken, it hasn’t been part of the official vernacular in the Church since the ‘90s. 
 

To clarify, the current term is Area Seventy. It is intended to differentiate men who hold the priesthood office of Seventy from General Authorities who also hold that office. General Authority Seventies have Churchwide jurisdiction; Area Seventies have charge of only a limited geographic area in the Church. 

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51 minutes ago, Calm said:

Or they were just being thorough because even if some terms are not in official use doesn’t mean there aren’t people somewhere using them.

I get that. I’m just saying how it seems with the inclusion of some terms that are really, really old. 

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On 8/2/2022 at 3:14 PM, JAHS said:

Young Women Presidency
Young Women Class Advisers
Young Women 16-18
Young Women 12-15

Primary Presidency
Music
Valiant 10
Valiant 8, Valiant 9
CTR 6, CTR 7
CTR 5
Sunbeam, CTR 4
Nursery

Young Single Adults(18-30)
Single Adults (31 and over)

 

Technically this is dependent on if they break up the YW’s into groups or not. They got rid of the names because they wanted to give flexibility for the classes to be set based on the need and circumstances of the ward instead of by a strict age category. 

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9 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

I hate the lack of names for girl classes. It in my mind makes girls even less important than the boys. IMO. 

My husband was just saying the same thing.  He's in the bishopric so hangs out with the YW a lot for different things (he'll be at girls camp next week) and it really annoys him.

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1 hour ago, BlueDreams said:

Technically this is dependent on if they break up the YW’s into groups or not. They got rid of the names because they wanted to give flexibility for the classes to be set based on the need and circumstances of the ward instead of by a strict age category. 

This helps in my ward where there aren’t enough active Young Women for three classes. There aren’t enough active Young Men to make the three classes in the Aaronic Priesthood age range work either but still stuck with those.

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55 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

This helps in my ward where there aren’t enough active Young Women for three classes. There aren’t enough active Young Men to make the three classes in the Aaronic Priesthood age range work either but still stuck with those.

I’m in the YW’s presidency and we’ve redone how we group the girls 3 times. The first due to the pandemic. We weren’t meeting in person and it made more sense to just have everyone together when we were only doing zoom. Then we did an older and younger class once we were in person more. Now we do a hybrid of the two, to help with both a limitation in leadership support. It’s been extremely helpful IMHO. 
 

with luv, 

BD 

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Just now, BlueDreams said:

I’m in the YW’s presidency and we’ve redone how we group the girls 3 times. The first due to the pandemic. We weren’t meeting in person and it made more sense to just have everyone together when we were only doing zoom. Then we did an older and younger class once we were in person more. Now we do a hybrid of the two, to help with both a limitation in leadership support. It’s been extremely helpful IMHO. 
 

with luv, 

BD 

It really is a great option for the presidency to have.  It's just a little sad that one of the natural consequences is a lack of a good name for each class.

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8 minutes ago, bluebell said:

It really is a great option for the presidency to have.  It's just a little sad that one of the natural consequences is a lack of a good name for each class.

 

10 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

I hate the lack of names for girl classes. It in my mind makes girls even less important than the boys. IMO. 

 
i can see that. Honestly it hasn’t personally bothered me. The names weren’t super great to begin with (beehive just doesn’t hold the same spiritual impact as deacon, and I don’t have a clue what a Mia Maid is or what a laurel has to do with anything). Plus the pragmatism beats out the symbol of a group name for me. 
 

but it could also be that I’ve been eyeball deep in the concerns of my YW’s group for the last bit that for me it’s really just about real time implications for me on this. There’s less time to think of the abstract meaning/comparison between that and the boys’ programs when focused on 14 or so YW in the midst of toggling the school/social life with a spiritual one. 
 

with luv, 

BD 

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4 minutes ago, BlueDreams said:

 

 
i can see that. Honestly it hasn’t personally bothered me. The names weren’t super great to begin with (beehive just doesn’t hold the same spiritual impact as deacon, and I don’t have a clue what a Mia Maid is or what a laurel has to do with anything). Plus the pragmatism beats out the symbol of a group name for me. 
 

but it could also be that I’ve been eyeball deep in the concerns of my YW’s group for the last bit that for me it’s really just about real time implications for me on this. There’s less time to think of the abstract meaning/comparison between that and the boys’ programs. 
 

with luv, 

BD 

I mean there’s ceremonious blessings and titles as boys get older, and girls don’t even have a name to identify with .  

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11 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

I mean there’s ceremonious blessings and titles as boys get older, and girls don’t even have a name to identify with .  

How about Daughters of God = DOG.  No that wouldn't work🙄

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Mia  Maid was from Mutual Improvement Association…

Laurels were made into wreaths to crown winners at the Pythia games and means award or prize, top of the class, so my guess it was to be synonymous with excellence…or it could be referring to the original legend where Daphne fled the embraces of Apollo to preserve her virtue and when he caught her, begged her father to save her (by destroying her beauty which attracts men even), which he did by turning her into a laurel tree.  A reminder to young women to defend their virtue at all cost (no, I do not actually believe that, would be horrified if that ever actually occurred to anyone).
 

The destruction of her beauty didn’t work.  Apollo got the last word , because he breaks off her branches to crown himself and others, uses her branches to make his lyre, her bark his quiver to keep his arrows.  Women didn’t stand a chance with Apollo.  One way or the other he possessed them.

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2 hours ago, Calm said:

Mia  Maid was from Mutual Improvement Association…

Laurels were made into wreaths to crown winners at the Pythia games and means award or prize, top of the class, so my guess it was to be synonymous with excellence…or it could be referring to the original legend where Daphne fled the embraces of Apollo to preserve her virtue and when he caught her, begged her father to save her, which he did by turning her into a tree.  A reminder to young women to defend their virtue at all cost (no, I do not actually believe that, would be horrified if that ever actually occurred to anyone).
 

Apollo got the last word though, because he breaks off her branches to crown himself and others.

 

2 hours ago, BlueDreams said:

 

 
i can see that. Honestly it hasn’t personally bothered me. The names weren’t super great to begin with (beehive just doesn’t hold the same spiritual impact as deacon, and I don’t have a clue what a Mia Maid is or what a laurel has to do with anything). Plus the pragmatism beats out the symbol of a group name for me. 
 

but it could also be that I’ve been eyeball deep in the concerns of my YW’s group for the last bit that for me it’s really just about real time implications for me on this. There’s less time to think of the abstract meaning/comparison between that and the boys’ programs when focused on 14 or so YW in the midst of toggling the school/social life with a spiritual one. 
 

with luv, 

BD 

Agreed the names were outdated. 

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33 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

Would it really be so complicated to make three standard classes with names, but to get permission to mix it up as needed and provide alternative names. ? 

There would be those who just default to the classes, I am guessing.  There is a lack of ritual place for girls in the Church though.  We need to figure out something better.

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5 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

I mean there’s ceremonious blessings and titles as boys get older, and girls don’t even have a name to identify with .  

The ceremonious blessings to me is more important. I really wish we had more of that to tie them more to a spiritual identity in becoming women/leaders in the church. 

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2 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

Would it really be so complicated to make three standard classes with names, but to get permission to mix it up as needed and provide alternative names. ? 

I'd likewise be worried about the defaulting. And there would still be the problem that splitting them would be a little different. Like would these classes still be age specific? If they were, would you just have a beehive/laurel class if there weren't mia maids. If there was one class would they all be mia maids. Or would you all the girls to keep a title and just let it be known that girls in this age group would be here and another age there. It would render the names even less meaningful in my opinion. 

 

With luv,

BD

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On 8/3/2022 at 7:43 PM, JAHS said:

In German "Fahrt" means a ride or journey.

Ich fahre en ein fahrt. ;) :D 

Jawohl!  Superkuhl! :D 

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Could classes vote on what they want to have for names?  (I know that would be open to all kinds of off-the-wall possibilities, but perhaps leaders and teachers could encourage class members to think about what they wish to stand for, spiritually-speaking, and to have a name that reflects that?  Think of anti-Nephi-Lehis or Stripling Warriors in the Book of Mormon (not saying that either one of those, necessarily, would be appropriate; just citing them as precedent: Clearly, in each case, the names had spiritual significance for those who adopted them).

Just a thought.  :) 

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