Metis_LDS Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Walking into my Ward a few Sundays ago a person at the entrance was loudly warning of Nuclear war. I told them that I felt will all that the Scriptures speak about that still needs to come to pass there would be no Global Nuclear War and no Nuclear winter. I could be wrong, one scene would be Nuclear war with all future events in the Scriptures being greatly delayed. What think you??? Link to comment
Duncan Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Metis_LDS said: Walking into my Ward a few Sundays ago a person at the entrance was loudly warning of Nuclear war. I told them that I felt will all that the Scriptures speak about that still needs to come to pass there would be no Global Nuclear War and no Nuclear winter. I could be wrong, one scene would be Nuclear war with all future events in the Scriptures being greatly delayed. What think you??? You should have told them person what 'Dief the Chief' told Kennedy back in the day, "You're not in America now, President Kennedy"! 2 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 There is a lot of talk of fire. No idea if it is nuclear or not. Nuclear winter would serve as a corrective to the worst of climate change by giving us a different and more horrifying scenario so small upside. Link to comment
strappinglad Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 The " abomination of desolation " always gives me the feeling that it might refer to a nuclear war. All it takes is a person willing to cut off his nose to spite his face. Well, maybe a couple of those types. Link to comment
The Nehor Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, strappinglad said: The " abomination of desolation " always gives me the feeling that it might refer to a nuclear war. All it takes is a person willing to cut off his nose to spite his face. Well, maybe a couple of those types. Well if the Russian ICBM fleet has been maintained as well as the rest of their military then the fuel and guidance systems for most of the fleet were probably sold off years ago and it will be a light nuclear war with only a few hits on NATO while Russia burns. 1 Link to comment
OGHoosier Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, The Nehor said: Well if the Russian ICBM fleet has been maintained as well as the rest of their military then the fuel and guidance systems for most of the fleet were probably sold off years ago and it will be a light nuclear war with only a few hits on NATO while Russia burns. One can only hope that the Russian army's dysfunction runs that deep. 5 hours ago, Metis_LDS said: Walking into my Ward a few Sundays ago a person at the entrance was loudly warning of Nuclear war. I told them that I felt will all that the Scriptures speak about that still needs to come to pass there would be no Global Nuclear War and no Nuclear winter. I could be wrong, one scene would be Nuclear war with all future events in the Scriptures being greatly delayed. What think you??? Not sure if this is true or not. A nuclear exchange between the US and Russia would delete both countries and the resulting nuclear winter would kill upwards of a billion people through starvation and resultant global dislocation. That would still leave a lot of humans behind though, most likely. It's something of a singularity; we just have no idea what would emerge. From the looks of the Revelation, a functioning society is not a prerequisite for the end times (in fact the opposite seems to be true), so I don't think it would hold off the end times that much. 2 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 My plan in this scenario is to die. The living will envy the dead. 1 Link to comment
Metis_LDS Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 Someone on the board ( I forget who wrote it) when faced with nuclear war said as long as they are in the blast zone. Those are my feelings exactly, give me Heavenly rest without having to suffer a lingering death from radiation. It would be the height of stupidity to start a nuclear war on purpose. Perhaps humanity knows no bounds with self destruction. Link to comment
Fether Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Metis_LDS said: It would be the height of stupidity to start a nuclear war on purpose. Perhaps humanity knows no bounds with self destruction. I remember as a child’, I would get angry and hit my sister. My parents would then ground me from hanging out with my friends. After realizing I could no longer get what I want, I would make everyone else suffer by causing as much distress to my parents and sister as I could. there was nothing my parents could do because they had nothing left to take from me. I sometimes wonder if this is the path we will see taken to nuclear war. 1 Link to comment
Metis_LDS Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fether said: I remember as a child’, I would get angry and hit my sister. My parents would then ground me from hanging out with my friends. After realizing I could no longer get what I want, I would make everyone else suffer by causing as much distress to my parents and sister as I could. there was nothing my parents could do because they had nothing left to take from me. I sometimes wonder if this is the path we will see taken to nuclear war. Are you saying the nothing to lose aspect will start nuclear war with the invasion of a Nuclear power. If yes I can see that as a strong motivation to launch, the strangeness of it is that main nuclear weapons are targeted else where, there only defensive power is to stop anyone from thinking of invading. I could see in desperation using Tactical nuclear in an invasion, but you would most likely kill more of your own population from fallout. No wonder everyone wants to join the Nuclear club, it assures no one will invade you. Edited May 10, 2022 by Metis_LDS clarity Link to comment
Chum Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I was a cold war child; grew up next to a Nike missile site, outside DC. Radar domes were across the field from my bus stop. In the 1970s we prepared by growing our own food and owning at least one car with points ignition. 50 years later I'm the same distance from US CENTCOM. It's hard to grow edible things in sand but we have 3 cars with points (four, after we convert the 89 pickup). We can drive around looking for food until the gas runs out. Link to comment
Chum Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Fether said: After realizing I could no longer get what I want, I would make everyone else suffer by causing as much distress to my parents and sister as I could. there was nothing my parents could do because they had nothing left to take from me. I sometimes wonder if this is the path we will see taken to nuclear war. I think this a solid path to our 2nd civil war. Our best opportunity for a nuclear war might be after that. Link to comment
Robert F. Smith Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 15 hours ago, Duncan said: You should have told them person what 'Dief the Chief' told Kennedy back in the day, "You're not in America now, President Kennedy"! Quote The [Canadian] government’s position on the nuclear question was put to the test, however, following the dramatic confrontation that took place in the waters surrounding Cuba in October of 1962. After forcing a showdown with the Soviet Union over its attempts to place nuclear missiles on the island, President John F. Kennedy ordered Canada’s contingents within NORAD90 to go on high alert without first consulting the Canadian government. Diefenbaker waited forty-eight hours to comply with Kennedy’s demand, and to add insult to injury, insisted that the affair should be referred to the United Nations for arbitration. https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/bitstream/1807/32336/1/Staring_Scott_P_201003_PhD_thesis.pdf . 1 Link to comment
Fether Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Metis_LDS said: Are you saying the nothing to lose aspect will start nuclear war with the invasion of a Nuclear power. If yes I can see that as a strong motivation to launch, the strangeness of it is that main nuclear weapons are targeted else where, there only defensive power is to stop anyone from thinking of invading. I could see in desperation using Tactical nuclear in an invasion, but you would most likely kill more of your own population from fallout. No wonder everyone wants to join the Nuclear club, it assures no one will invade you. Putin really wants Soviet Russia back. If he finds out he can’t or is embarrassed on the world stage by a failed invasion of a weaker country… who knows what might happen 2 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Fether said: Putin really wants Soviet Russia back. If he finds out he can’t or is embarrassed on the world stage by a failed invasion of a weaker country… who knows what might happen There is also a lot of speculation based on his physical appearance and mannerisms that he may be dying. 1 Link to comment
CV75 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 8:19 PM, Metis_LDS said: Walking into my Ward a few Sundays ago a person at the entrance was loudly warning of Nuclear war. I told them that I felt will all that the Scriptures speak about that still needs to come to pass there would be no Global Nuclear War and no Nuclear winter. I could be wrong, one scene would be Nuclear war with all future events in the Scriptures being greatly delayed. What think you??? It is by no accident that the abbreviation for the Book of Mormon is "BOM"... 1 Link to comment
Kenngo1969 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 5 hours ago, CV75 said: It is by no accident that the abbreviation for the Book of Mormon is "BOM"... Said Cody Judy, in his post hoc, ad hoc attempted explanation for his attack on President Hunter. Link to comment
Calm Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, Kenngo1969 said: Said Cody Judy, in his post hoc, ad hoc attempted explanation for his attack on President Hunter. Did he really? Link to comment
Kenngo1969 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, CV75 said: It is by no accident that the abbreviation for the Book of Mormon is "BOM"... 4 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said: Said Cody Judy, in his post hoc, ad hoc attempted explanation for his attack on President Hunter. 4 hours ago, Calm said: Did he really? Yeah. I can't remember where I read it first. It's been several years. I'll try to find a source. P.S.: Here you go. https://www.deseret.com/1995/11/21/19205820/president-hunter-s-attacker-tells-parole-board-he-was-misunderstood Edited May 11, 2022 by Kenngo1969 2 Link to comment
CV75 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 52 minutes ago, Kenngo1969 said: Yeah. I can't remember where I read it first. It's been several years. I'll try to find a source. P.S.: Here you go. https://www.deseret.com/1995/11/21/19205820/president-hunter-s-attacker-tells-parole-board-he-was-misunderstood Let's not judge Judy !!! Link to comment
Kenngo1969 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, CV75 said: It is by no accident that the abbreviation for the Book of Mormon is "BOM"... 6 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said: Said Cody Judy, in his post hoc, ad hoc attempted explanation for his attack on President Hunter. 5 hours ago, Calm said: Did he really? 1 hour ago, Kenngo1969 said: Yeah. I can't remember where I read it first. It's been several years. I'll try to find a source. P.S.: Here you go. https://www.deseret.com/1995/11/21/19205820/president-hunter-s-attacker-tells-parole-board-he-was-misunderstood 22 minutes ago, CV75 said: Let's not judge Judy !!! Here is what Judge Judy thinks of Cody Judy: \ P.S.: This conversation is ironic, given the attitude of one of the people I mention in my signature line. Edited May 11, 2022 by Kenngo1969 1 Link to comment
Metis_LDS Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said: Said Cody Judy, in his post hoc, ad hoc attempted explanation for his attack on President Hunter. I had known about the incident but not the details. The things you miss when not plugged into Salt Lake! Link to comment
CV75 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Kenngo1969 said: Here is what Judge Judy thinks of Cody Judy: \ P.S.: This conversation is ironic, given the attitude of one of the people I mention in my signature line. Strap on a BOM! 1 Link to comment
Kenngo1969 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Metis_LDS said: I had known about the incident but not the details. The things you miss when not plugged into Salt Lake! Sorry I derailed your thread. Meanwhile, back at the ranch ... [as an old, then-about-to-retire AP English teacher of mine said when he realized he'd gone on an irrelevant 30-minute-rant/tangent ... ] I think nuclear war leading up to the Second Coming is possible, but, for some reason (perhaps it's simply an incorrect assumption on my part) everything I've read leads me to believe that the Battle of Armageddon will be a conventional war. For one thing, that battle, rather than being a relatively brief flash of brilliant light, will be protracted. The Two Prophets sent to Israel will hold Jerusalem's opponents at bay for quite some time before meeting their temporary, telling demise. Edited May 11, 2022 by Kenngo1969 1 Link to comment
Kenngo1969 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Metis_LDS said: I had known about the incident but not the details. The things you miss when not plugged into Salt Lake! Duuuuuuude! The events leading up to it (though not the incident itself) were broadcast worldwide! Link to comment
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