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  1. Yes okay, but please ask that they remove the following. General Discussions For topics and discussions concerning LDS Doctrine, History, Geography, etc... Please stay on topic all off topic posts will be moved/deleted.
  2. What you have to understand is that the law did not get involed because they were natives. How else could these schools take children and allow no parental visits. Some schools let parents visit once a week for a month and then no visits. Even prisons let you visit your loved ones.
  3. After what this Church has done to my native brothers and sisters who were children in Canada perhaps he was not too far off the mark. This is not some ancient genocide. the last of these schools were shut down in the mid 1990's. More that a 1000 unmarked graves so far. It chills my blood. There is talk of what really went on in these schools but it is too horrid for to repeat.
  4. I know this is a cheerful story truly because they have been only two replies.
  5. One would think missionary work would be easy in the spirit world. I think it will be difficult to get some to admit that they were wrong or that they were blinded by the world. So overcoming pride will take much effort.
  6. This is from President Heber C. Kimball, Made in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, December 4, 1856. REMARKS AT THE FUNERAL OF PRESIDENT JEDEDIAH M. GRANT I quote what Heber Kimball reported that President Grant said on his deathbed. "He said to me, brother Heber, I have been into the spirit world two nights in succession, and, of all the dreads that ever came across me, the worst was to have to again return to my body, though I had to do it. But O, says he, the order and government that were there! When in the spirit world, I saw the order of righteous men and women; beheld them organized in their several grades, and there appeared to be no obstruction to my vision; I could see every man and woman in their grade and order. I looked to see whether there was any disorder there, but there was none; neither could I see any death nor any darkness, disorder or confusion. He said that the people he there saw were organized in family capacities; and when he looked at them he saw grade after grade, and all were organized and in perfect harmony. He would mention one item after another and say, “Why, it is just as brother Brigham says it is; it is just as he has told us many a time.” And for you gardeners he also said. In regard to gardens, says brother Grant, “I have seen good gardens on this earth, but I never saw any to compare with those that were there. I saw flowers of numerous kinds, and some with from fifty to a hundred different colored flowers growing upon one stalk.”
  7. This money (read power) is part of the Lord's plan to keep the restoration of the Gospel from being destroyed once again. The Lord has a multi layered plan and this getting of power is part of it.
  8. What I have witnessed. 1. Not fitting in with culture. 2. Members offended the person. 3. A specific issue like the Book of Mormon or Temple etc.....
  9. This is from http://www.todayinmormonhistory.com/ Jul 6, 1876 Concerning the Custer Massacre a few days before, the Deseret News editorializes that it is doubtful if possession of the Black Hills country by whites can be justified. If it cannot, "the Indians [rather than Custer's men] must consequently have the sympathy of every just man in the area of the civilized world." Such pro-Indian sentiments contribute to the hostility of the U.S. army and the federal government toward Mormons.
  10. As a half native I always comforted myself in that Canada was somewhat better in their dealings with the North America Natives. That was a false idea as we know that there are so far nearly a 1000 native children in unmarked graves in residential schools across Canada. Looking white has helped me to see that there is a great hate towards my native brethren. As non native people would talk not knowing I was half native about what a pain those Indians are etc.... So I have to ask my self the question is this hate for natives part of a curse. I have been on reservations in Canada and I am well aware of the problems my brethren have. They have suffered so much, lost so much. Many of the tribes survive to this day. Many tribes are gone forever from the earth. There are many ashes to sit in and plead to the Lord that the hate will stop.
  11. This heals my soul about the human condition. What does the song say "Truth knows no regulation" Brilliant post! Thank You
  12. My thoughts on "real magic" if there is such a thing is that it is a lower level language of the Priesthood power. So take Moses splitting the sea, that is a higher level command. But just like a computer performing a complex task by doing smaller simpler tasks when Moses commands smaller tasks are put in motion such as getting water molecules to be in the right place etc.. So "real magic" would attempt to access these lower level functions to make things happen. It is only an idea and may not be correct.
  13. No this only comes from personal revelation.
  14. I made no assertion, I said it seemed to extend.
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