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5 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

My full legal name is not important right now, nor is the number and identity of any so-called followers of mine.  You are welcome to try and figure it out on your own if you wish.  What you will find won't be the least bit exciting.  I'm just another face walking around with everyone else who can only stand out if people actually listen to what I have to say and understand it.

You can read 7 of my revelations at if you wish.  It's about 3 hours of reading, unless you read it carefully and ponder it as you go.

I already have the keys.  Read the revelations at my web-site for more information about that.

Why do we have to register in order to read your revelations? What do you want my email address for?

Posted
16 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

there are also cellular components that have their own DNA.  For example, there is what they call mitochondrial DNA, which is only passed on through the mothers.

What is the name of this dna so we can understand what you are talking about?  Or What specific component of our cell has their DNA changed?

Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, ProphetShiloh said:

I am not the one claiming that they degrade and dissipate in a few days.  I am very much doubting that this is the case.

I invited the person making this claim to share the evidence that can be found on this subject.  Let's see what they share with us.

Are you suggesting they can’t observe or measure mRNA decay rate, that the tests to identify how much mRNA is present don’t work, or that they are lying about the studies that claim to identify the rate?  Or something else?

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

My full legal name is not important right now...

You can read 7 of my revelations at [my website] if you wish. 

Your website requires us to "register" and provide our names and e-mail addresses before we can see your book.

Yet you are not willing to disclose either your name or your contact information.   That's a double-standard that I am not comfortable with.

If your message is so important, why not just make your book available without the registration requirement?  You are making extraordinary claims, so if you have the requisite extraordinary evidence, you would do well to make it freely available. 

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35 minutes ago, Calm said:

Are you suggesting they can’t observe or measure mRNA decay rate, that the tests to identify how much mRNA is present don’t work, or that they are lying about the studies that claim to identify the rate?  Or something else?

I don't know if Sars-Cov-2 rna can enter the host dna.  The controversial study came out in December and was discounted almost immediately by the group, with some citing vax hesitancy implications of the study.

However, HIV, a retrovirus, does just that.  It inserts itself into the DNA of the host, thereby altering the host DNA.  https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/hiv-replication-cycle 

It isn't out of the question that this can occur.

Posted
4 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

I personally believe that time will bear this out:  The jab is doing more harm than good.

It hasn't even had time to be properly tested in professional clinical trials.  Instead, the public mindset has been whipped up into a flurry of fear over something that has merely displaced the stats on people who would normally have died from the flu.  This is a deliberate manipulation being perpetrated against humanity.

When I say "absolutely unproven", I mean that it has NOT been proven safe and effective for what it is purported to accomplish.  The "entirely" aspect is something you decided to inject into the context so that you could have something to gripe about.  This is similar to how you also injected in the notion that I was saying mRNA technology itself in its entirety has not been proven effective, etc.

I said, more or less, that mRNA genetic materials are inserted into our bodies which enter into our cells and cause them to manufacture the inoculating substance that is supposed to give someone CV-19 immunity.  I didn't ever say that the core DNA of our being is altered.  I said that the DNA of cellular components are modified so as to change the functioning of our cells in order to perform specific tasks, such as manufacturing spike protein look-alike compounds.  Our cells are most definitely altered in this process in ways that I consider risky and unproven.  You say our cells are not changed and then turn around and describe the very function that results due to our cells being changed.

One potentially valuable distinction that can be drawn from what you said, that I did not address, is that once the injected and uptaken mRNA has been utilized in the cell that it "goes away" leaving the cell essentially reverted back to its pure original form.  According to you this leaves the person to only have to deal with the spike protein compounds that were thus "printed".

I recommend that you delve into the details of this more thoroughly.  I would like to see the evidence that you have on this.

Wrong.

Posted
4 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

It hasn't even had time to be properly tested in professional clinical trials.  Instead, the public mindset has been whipped up into a flurry of fear over something that has merely displaced the stats on people who would normally have died from the flu.  This is a deliberate manipulation being perpetrated against humanity.

 

Where are you getting the idea that it hasn't been "properly tested in professional clinical trials"?  Almost all of the countries that have approved the use of the various vaccines require professional clinical trials.

And, no, COVID-19 is not just killing "people who would normally have died from the flu."  If you really believe that, I would strongly recommend you read the stories of people who got it and either died or were seriously injured.  I, personally, know 3 people who would not have died from the flu but did die from COVID-19.

4 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

When I say "absolutely unproven", I mean that it has NOT been proven safe and effective for what it is purported to accomplish.  The "entirely" aspect is something you decided to inject into the context so that you could have something to gripe about.  This is similar to how you also injected in the notion that I was saying mRNA technology itself in its entirety has not been proven effective, etc.

 

But mRNA vaccines were first clinically trialed in 2013.  It was for rabies and you can read the study that was published in 2017: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)31665-3/fulltext. They aren't new or unproven.

4 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

I said, more or less, that mRNA genetic materials are inserted into our bodies which enter into our cells and cause them to manufacture the inoculating substance that is supposed to give someone CV-19 immunity.  I didn't ever say that the core DNA of our being is altered.  I said that the DNA of cellular components are modified so as to change the functioning of our cells in order to perform specific tasks, such as manufacturing spike protein look-alike compounds.  Our cells are most definitely altered in this process in ways that I consider risky and unproven.  You say our cells are not changed and then turn around and describe the very function that results due to our cells being changed.

One potentially valuable distinction that can be drawn from what you said, that I did not address, is that once the injected and uptaken mRNA has been utilized in the cell that it "goes away" leaving the cell essentially reverted back to its pure original form.  According to you this leaves the person to only have to deal with the spike protein compounds that were thus "printed".

I recommend that you delve into the details of this more thoroughly.  I would like to see the evidence that you have on this.

mRNA was discovered in the 1960s.  Since then, there has been no mRNA discovered that has a half-life of more than a few days.  The majority have half-lives of only a few minutes.  There's a reason for that.  The mRNA is just a messenger.  It is supposed to take the information from the DNA and use it to build something.  Cells don't need to keep these mRNAs around because the original information is in the DNA.  One of the longest known mRNA is the gamma-globin mRNA.  It has a half life of up to 29 hours (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4052630/).

1 hour ago, Harry T. Clark said:

I don't know if Sars-Cov-2 rna can enter the host dna.  The controversial study came out in December and was discounted almost immediately by the group, with some citing vax hesitancy implications of the study.

However, HIV, a retrovirus, does just that.  It inserts itself into the DNA of the host, thereby altering the host DNA.  https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/hiv-replication-cycle 

It isn't out of the question that this can occur.

HIV and other viruses don't use mRNA.  They use another form of RNA.  We also do have the technology to alter DNA, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR_gene_editing, but it isn't based on mRNA.  The vaccines only use mRNA.

I recommend that you delve into the details of mRNA more thoroughly.  It looks like you are confusing mRNA with DNA and other forms of RNA.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Harry T. Clark said:

don't know if Sars-Cov-2 rna can enter the host dna.

mRNA doesn’t enter DNA. Do you mean attach to the DNA and cause it to alter its structure? (Edit:  my mistake, I was thinking of “entering” in a different way, like an alien parasite, my bad, you mean it becomes a part of the host DNA)

PS:  I think webbles is right. I think it would be helpful if you looked up how mRNA works and how it interacts with DNA. I think I am bing confused by what you are saying because you are making assumptions about how mRNA works that isn’t actually how it does.  Not surprising. I have to keep refreshing my memory to keep this kind of stuff straight. I need to watch more videos as that will likely work better than text and me imagining it in my head like I usually do. 

It will be easier to understand each other and what is truly problematic if we are on the same page with DNA and mRNA basics.


Added:  since webbles is here and brain fog is getting worse, I am retiring from this bit as I keep finding mistakes I have made.  Hopefully webbles and others will catch any I haven’t. I have even confused Clark with Prophet. Hate it when my brains wonks out.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Olmec Donald said:

Your website requires us to "register" and provide our names and e-mail addresses before we can see your book.

Yet you are not willing to disclose either your name or your contact information.   That's a double-standard that I am not comfortable with.

If your message is so important, why not just make your book available without the registration requirement?  You are making extraordinary claims, so if you have the requisite extraordinary evidence, you would do well to make it freely available. 

It doesn't do any validation on the names or email addresses.  So you can enter dummy data and still get in.  The "revelations" are interesting.  The "Commandments unto the Elect" seem to indicate that they are followers of an "Onias" (who I think is to have died in 2004) and "David Babbitt".

Posted
4 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

I am by no means against the principle of inoculation.  Please do not infer that from what I have said above.

The key difference is with the CV-19 mRNA vaccine our cells are co-opted to manufacture the spike protein look-alike compounds instead of the traditional approach of people simply being injected with weakened and non-viable viral substances to provoke the body to manufacture and build up antibodies.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Calm said:

Do you have a name for the Son of Man, something that would help us understand or identify who or what you are talking about (I am still confuse by how you talk about the priesthood organization as flesh-and-bone and therefore don’t know if you are saying the Son of Man is a person or an organization or something else).

The identity of the Son of Man who came circa 1890 as prophesied is the Priesthood organization that the Lord commanded President John Taylor to organize in a revelation he gave to him in 1883.  This is the priesthood group that the FLDS speak of that was organized specifically to continue to administer the laws and ordinances of exaltation that the Church was forced to abandon.

The FLDS and all of their splinters are the dead and decomposing body of Jehovah-Abel that yet await their burial.  It is not a pretty sight to behold.  The revelations of the Prophet Onias state that all of the sins of these spiritually murdered sons of God shall be answered upon the heads of those who unjustly inflicted the punishment of spiritual capital punishment (excommunication or revocation of the gift of the Holy Ghost) upon them.

Posted
1 hour ago, webbles said:

It doesn't do any validation on the names or email addresses.  So you can enter dummy data and still get in.  The "revelations" are interesting.  The "Commandments unto the Elect" seem to indicate that they are followers of an "Onias" (who I think is to have died in 2004) and "David Babbitt".

The Prophet Onias was taken from his position as Lord's Anointed Prophet in July 2004 because the people in the group rejected Onias and instead preferred the guidance of another man in the group named David Babbitt.  The Lord had warned that he would do this if they didn't repent and take the revelations seriously.  The Lord even said that he had fulfilled that very warning in what he did.

However, the group didn't really understand what the Lord did.  They interpreted it to mean David was a good guy instead of someone who had essentially usurped the group.  And, interestingly, I found a revelation that prophesied that the group would not understand that the Lord would take the oracle from them when he did it.  All of these prophecies came true.

The Prophet Onias actually passed away in 2018.  I began receiving revelations as his successor in 2019.

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, ProphetShiloh said:

This is the priesthood group that the FLDS speak of that was organized specifically to continue to administer the laws and ordinances of exaltation that the Church was forced to abandon….

someone who had essentially usurped the group.  

Does it exist any more anywhere?

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Calm said:

Does it exist any more anywhere?

As I said, it is now a dead and decomposing body.  There are splinters of it all over the place.

Perhaps this conversation should be moved to a more appropriate topic/setting?

Posted
1 minute ago, ProphetShiloh said:

I am not a modern-day Sibyl of Cuemae, if that is what you are asking.

Not exactly. I'm asking if you ever wrote a scripture app.

Posted
1 minute ago, ProphetShiloh said:

Oh, I get it.  You are fishing for personal information.

Ah. It is you then. GTK.

Posted (edited)

Deleted due to copyright.  My apologies. 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Calm said:

if this is you.  Let me know if I am wrong in any of my assumptions and I will remove it.  

I am nearly blinded by your rightness.

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