New Book on Polygamy

[Navidad]

10 hours ago, Calm said:

True. Sounds good. I am going to start listing all the reasons there will be more men will exalted in the CK:

 

1) Men like useless meetings more (I based this on how often they organize them) and get rewarded by the Father for their great sacrifices even if they were a mistake because he feels bad for leaving out Thou shalt Not multiply meetings out of the 11 commandments  

2) they have wives making sure they get there

3) easy production of endless sperm means more kids per man with little effort and thus racking up glory sounds like a winning proposition, while women decide after watching some of the longtime, really committed females on their billionth pregnancy that there are better ways to spend eternity…plus it is eternity.  They always have time for it….and go off to check out the latest in the Andromeda Galaxy  as they hear the women there have this great new project decorating with the local globular clusters

4) men like to collect things more, especially kingdoms and dominions

5) women are on the fast track, with eyes focused on the core principles and not distracted by the bells and whistles and have moved on to the next stage after exaltation quickly and are off having fun with God the Mother and participating in what she, the Father, and the Son have planned for us once the basic stuff gets taken care of while the men are spending their time in the CK drawing up charts on where they fit into the hierarchy and figuring out how many more children they need to add downline to move up to the next level of exaltation 

6) lots of men never make it to the mental age of accountability in mortality and those massive numbers go to the CK upon death along with all those who die before the age of 8. With so many there, the lower levels are bursting at the seams and tensions start ramping up, but with some heavy personal attention, God shifts enough men to exaltation and off making their own worlds rather than crowding out his that peace is restored to heaven. 

Well written! I admire your literary abilities!

[Bernard Gui]

12 hours ago, mfbukowski said:

You want proof?

You want proof? You can’t handle proof!

Edited August 6, 2021 by Bernard Gui

[The Nehor]

1 hour ago, Bernard Gui said:

Well, no. Not defending anything. Just making a comparison between scary groups,

No, it is textbook whataboutism.

[Calm]

1 hour ago, Navidad said:

Well written! I admire your literary abilities!

Farce doesn’t require much skill, the post has little value save to point to the absurd. 

Edited August 6, 2021 by Calm

[Rain]

9 hours ago, Tacenda said:

The way I read your comment, they make it harder for men to get to the CK than for the women in the temple covenants. 

c/p'd your comment here: 

Not  necessarily

Go to the temple with a female friend and both listen to the wording of the washing ritual, then in the celestial room, compare notes.

Women "get off" much easier than men on every whit of the ordinance, while men get to slog through the mud of repentance.

Unless of course the words have been changed while no one was looking  (covid)

I know you aren't able to go to the temple now so I'm just going to tell you. He has talked about this in the past.  He understands it very differently than several of us women on the board do. 

Edited August 6, 2021 by Rain

[mfbukowski]

4 hours ago, Calm said:

I have no clue what you are trying to convey 

That makes 2 of us. 3 am is not my strongest hour for lucidity 

But if I knew what it was, I am sure it was brilliant 

Or something.

Edited August 6, 2021 by mfbukowski

[JLHPROF]

1 hour ago, Calm said:

Farce doesn’t require much skill, the post has little value save to point to the absurd. 

You know a thread has taken a downward turn when even Calm is posting farce, absurdity, or mockery...

[mfbukowski]

1 hour ago, Rain said:

I know you aren't able to go to the temple now so I'm just going to tell you. He has talked about this in the past.  He understands it very differently than several of  us women on the board do. 

And yet mysteriously in accord with many temple workers I know.

It's plain as day.

Women get a free pass to some blessings while men get them only depending on their worthiness.

I don't know how you could see it otherwise

Women are just plain nicer people than men, in broad generalities.

How many mass murderers and rapists are women? How often do women kidnap men for nefarious purposes? And sell them into slavery?

Where is there a "me too" movement for men molested by women?

But I won't go any further into the temple stuff.

And yet watch how the women here will react to this post. 

[The Nehor]

3 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

And yet mysteriously in accord with many temple workers I know.

It's plain as day.

Women get a free pass to some blessings while men get them only depending on their worthiness.

I don't know how you could see it otherwise

Women are just plain nicer people than men, in broad generalities.

How many mass murderers and rapists are women? How often do women kidnap men for nefarious purposes? And sell them into slavery?

Where is there a "me too" movement for men molested by women?

But I won't go any further into the temple stuff.

And yet watch how the women here will react to this post. 

That doesn’t make any sense. Women are inherently better and yet the standards are also lower?

Unto whom much is given little is required?

[Calm]

10 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

And yet watch how the women here will react to this post. 

Mfb…perhaps you might find it useful to think about how you come across when you frequently say this kind of post about the women on the board…as if we all think alike and as if we knee jerk respond to your posts instead of think about them just as I assume you take the time to think about ours. 
 

If you want me to be more specific I will, but hopefully this gets my point across well enough. 

[bluebell]

23 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

And yet watch how the women here will react to this post. 

If we really are nicer and more likely to do the right thing then the men are and less likely to make bad choices than the men are, then how we react to this post would more than likely be the correct way to react, right?

 

[Tacenda]

26 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

And yet mysteriously in accord with many temple workers I know.

It's plain as day.

Women get a free pass to some blessings while men get them only depending on their worthiness.

I don't know how you could see it otherwise

Women are just plain nicer people than men, in broad generalities.

How many mass murderers and rapists are women? How often do women kidnap men for nefarious purposes? And sell them into slavery?

Where is there a "me too" movement for men molested by women?

But I won't go any further into the temple stuff.

And yet watch how the women here will react to this post. 

Well, I could go here...

Not all, but what of the mothers that maybe caused a child to become monsters? 

 

[mfbukowski]

1 minute ago, Tacenda said:

Well, I could go here...

Not all, but what of the mothers that maybe caused a child to become monsters? 

 

Oh yeah

And what about monster men who made the mothers who lived in the house....

We are all responsible.

[mfbukowski]

17 minutes ago, Calm said:

Mfb…perhaps you might find it useful to think about how you come across when you frequently say this kind of post about the women on the board…as if we all think alike and as if we knee jerk respond to your posts instead of think about them just as I assume you take the time to think about ours. 
 

If you want me to be more specific I will, but hopefully this gets my point across well enough. 

Just look at this avalanche of replies right in front of your eyes... 

[bluebell]

3 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Well, I could go here...

Not all, but what of the mothers that maybe caused a child to become monsters? 

 

A lot of what mfw said can be explained by women's inability to be as horrible to men as they are to women, because we physically cannot control men like they can us.   That, and when we do want to hurt someone we often choose to destroy people mentally and emotionally rather than physically.

 

[mfbukowski]

51 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

That doesn’t make any sense. Women are inherently better and yet the standards are also lower?

Unto whom much is given little is required?

In the real world???? Yes

I hate to see those poor movie stars digging ditches all day.

It seems that very smart and advantaged people "work hard" for their millions, but compared to picking cotton 16 hours a day, uh, not exactly

Genius kids can end up in college at 12 or 13. They don't need, say high school physics because they are naturally beyond the average student

And aren't we all students in the covenant path?

Women just skip a grade.

Is that just?

Of course. Those who are naturally talented SHOULD be given leeway in areas in which they excel.

 

Edited August 6, 2021 by mfbukowski

[Tacenda]

8 minutes ago, bluebell said:

A lot of what mfw said can be explained by women's inability to be as horrible to men as they are to women, because we physically cannot control men like they can us.   That, and when we do want to hurt someone we often choose to destroy people mentally and emotionally rather than physically.

 

Agree, although, I had a 7th grade best friend that out of the blue punched me in the stomach. And a load of other women or even women friends that have hurt me emotionally. 

[mfbukowski]

24 minutes ago, bluebell said:

If we really are nicer and more likely to do the right thing then the men are and less likely to make bad choices than the men are, then how we react to this post would more than likely be the correct way to react, right?

 

Yes, definitely. I was being a jerk in retrospect.

Is this post nicer than mine?

Is it more conciliatory, reasonable, and logical?

Are you being more gentle than I was? Of course because you are a woman.

[The Nehor]

21 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

Just look at this avalanche of replies right in front of your eyes... 

When I say something that people find demeaning they reply and try to correct me. Who could have foreseen this unexpected turn of events?

[The Nehor]

1 minute ago, mfbukowski said:

Yes, definitely. I was being a jerk in retrospect.

Is this post nicer than mine?

Is it more conciliatory, reasonable, and logical?

Are you being more gentle than I was? Of course because you are a woman.

If it was equally as demeaning as yours I expect that a few other posters would have crawled out of the woodworks and made comments implying that her post was clearly irrationally emotional and would imply (hopefully without using the word) that ‘this woman is clearly hysterical’.

[mfbukowski]

6 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

If it was equally as demeaning as yours I expect that a few other posters would have crawled out of the woodworks and made comments implying that her post was clearly irrationally emotional and would imply (hopefully without using the word) that ‘this woman is clearly hysterical’.

Lost me on this one.

[The Nehor]

5 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

Lost me on this one.

You said that a woman not posting as ‘meanly’ as you is proof they are kinder. I am countering that they probably would if female anger was not so often treated with patronizing condescension.

[Tacenda]

19 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

Yes, definitely. I was being a jerk in retrospect.

Is this post nicer than mine?

Is it more conciliatory, reasonable, and logical?

Are you being more gentle than I was? Of course because you are a woman.

I'd rather see up front what a person is like than someone who hides and it comes out later in a worse way. Women keep a lot to themselves and may hide their emotions or bad side. Ever wonder that? But I don't fault you for saying the things you have. It's been ingrained in our religion that it is so.

[mfbukowski]

17 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Agree, although, I had a 7th grade best friend that out of the blue punched me in the stomach. And a load of other women or even women friends that have hurt me emotionally. 

And yet you seem to remember the one punch in seventh grade a lot clearer than "the load" of emotional hurts.

Violence is "masculine" and considered less civilized than emotional reactions

Women are the civilizing force in humanity, the nurturing creative side

[bluebell]

3 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Agree, although, I had a 7th grade best friend that out of the blue punched me in the stomach. And a load of other women or even women friends that have hurt me emotionally. 

Women are can be just as vicious as men, we just do it in ways that men don't always recognize, usually because we do it to each other and outside of men's radar. 

"Means girls" (the movie was based on a book--Queen Bees and Wannabes--that took the world by storm in 2002 and is still being talked about today.  See here and here if you can't get behind the paywall) are a legitimate issue that every girl has had to deal with (being one or/and being hurt by one). 

As women, we have to contend with "Toxic Femininity" as much as men have to with toxic masculinity, as well.

We aren't nicer than men, we just have unique ways of being mean.