Thinking Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 "My beloved brethren, may I remind you, if there were a perfect woman, do you really think that she would be interested in you?" Perfect for me doesn't necessarily mean perfect for somebody else. I'll defer to John Legend, since he sang it more perfectly than I could ever hope to say it. 'Cause all of me Loves all of you Love your curves and all your edges All your perfect imperfections
Stargazer Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 Well, I recently found the perfect woman, and amazingly enough, she was interested enough in me to marry me! 3
Robert F. Smith Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Thinking said: "My beloved brethren, may I remind you, if there were a perfect woman, do you really think that she would be interested in you?" Perfect for me doesn't necessarily mean perfect for somebody else................................................... I think that you missed the point: Anyway, he got the best laugh of the day when he said it. 2
canard78 Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, Robert F. Smith said: I think that you missed the point: Anyway, he got the best laugh of the day when he said it. Brace yourself Robert: I agree with you. Thinking, it's sweet and lovely that you consider Mrs Thinking to be perfect for you. I'd imagine Pres Uchtdorf would say that's exactly what he meant. 4
VideoGameJunkie Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 The message was for the single men of the church to quit being so picky. There was a marriage fireside in my YSA stake and the Stake President said that girls have told him that they haven't been asked on a date in 3 years. 2
rongo Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 12 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said: I think that you missed the point: Anyway, he got the best laugh of the day when he said it. From Orson Scott Card's "Saintspeak: The Mormon Dictionary:" loud laughter: what happens when a general authority makes a joke in Conference. solemn assembly: what happens when you make a joke in a talk. It does seem to me that the laughing during Conference talks can sometimes be forced. Because it's a GA, and because it's Conference. 2
CA Steve Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 After decades married to the same girl, I am still astounded that she would marry me and stay with me, though there were times when the going was a bit rough that we agreed who ever left would have to take the kids. 2
Maestrophil Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 I thought my wife was perfect until I found her one fault - she was interested in ME! :-) 3
Robert F. Smith Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, CA Steve said: After decades married to the same girl, I am still astounded that she would marry me and stay with me, though there were times when the going was a bit rough that we agreed who ever left would have to take the kids. That made me laugh, but only because it was forced by my Mormon passive aggressive nature -- especially following a dour Conference weekend. Anyhow, that is what our MDDB group therapy (led by rongo) has taught me . . . ETA: Edited April 4, 2016 by Robert F. Smith
Robert F. Smith Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 34 minutes ago, Maestrophil said: I thought my wife was perfect until I found her one fault - she was interested in ME! :-) Yeh, I hate when that happens: Raises real questions about her good judgment, in turn leading to loss of respect. Oh, for the good old days of screwball comedic relationships in which the women were not only right most of the time, but frankly lorded it over their sniveling, cowardly husbands.
mrmarklin Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 53 minutes ago, Maestrophil said: I thought my wife was perfect until I found her one fault - she was interested in ME! :-) Like the old Groucho Marx line--I wouldn't join a club that would have me........... 53 minutes ago, Maestrophil said:
Maestrophil Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 17 hours ago, mrmarklin said: Like the old Groucho Marx line--I wouldn't join a club that would have me........... Indeed! :-)
Ahab Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 On 4/4/2016 at 1:01 AM, Stargazer said: Well, I recently found the perfect woman, and amazingly enough, she was interested enough in me to marry me! Woohoo! Congratulations! I got one too. Perfect for me, even with all of her imperfect perfections.
Ahab Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 22 hours ago, rongo said: From Orson Scott Card's "Saintspeak: The Mormon Dictionary:" loud laughter: what happens when a general authority makes a joke in Conference. solemn assembly: what happens when you make a joke in a talk. It does seem to me that the laughing during Conference talks can sometimes be forced. Because it's a GA, and because it's Conference. And because there are microphones that greatly amplify the sounds from the General Audience.
Bernard Gui Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 I hate to be the bearer of bad news to all the brethren out there, but there is a perfect woman and she is now known as Mrs. Gui. 2
rchorse Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) On 04.04.2016 at 9:05 PM, VideoGameJunkie said: The message was for the single men of the church to quit being so picky. There was a marriage fireside in my YSA stake and the Stake President said that girls have told him that they haven't been asked on a date in 3 years. I always hated those guilt trips in YSA wards. What are these girls doing to get a date? And why aren't they asking men out if they want dates and aren't getting them? It's not 1950 anymore. So many YSA women make themselves unappealing and unavailable and then it's somehow those evil men's fault for not being able to crack the code. Sorry, I know it can be hard being a single woman in the church, especially if you're older. The odds can be challenging. But the constant accusation that only the men bear responsibility gets tiresome. Edited April 6, 2016 by rchorse
Stargazer Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 10 hours ago, rchorse said: I always hated those guilt trips in YSA wards. What are these girls doing to get a date? And why aren't they asking men out if they want dates and aren't getting them? It's not 1950 anymore. So many YSA women make themselves unappealing and unavailable and then it's somehow those evil men's fault for not being able to crack the code. Sorry, I know it can be hard being a single woman in the church, especially if you're older. The odds can be challenging. But the constant accusation that only the men bear responsibility gets tiresome. Before my late wife passed away last year, she instructed me to get remarried after she was gone. I wasn't all that on-board with this, but considered that I would at least act like I was doing something about it. I signed up on an LDS dating website, and made sure I only exchanged emails with women who lived in distant places -- to reduce the possibility of finding someone, I presume. I was being passive-aggressive about it. But while I was determined to be very circumspect about finding someone, there was this woman in England, who, having seen my biographical note on the singles website we were both signed up for, contacted me. After a week or two of exchanging emails, she suggested that we meet, and that she would fly all the way from England to meet me. In short, SHE CHASED ME! This was novel enough, but even more novel, I fell in love with her via email of all things. We are now married, because she took the initiative TWICE. So, I can certainly appreciate the need for sisters to be a bit more forward. But I do wonder about your statement that "...many YSA women make themselves unappealing and unavailable..." Do they dress frumpy, forego makeup, and decline to bathe? How do they make themselves unavailable? 1
rchorse Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Stargazer said: But I do wonder about your statement that "...many YSA women make themselves unappealing and unavailable..." Do they dress frumpy, forego makeup, and decline to bathe? How do they make themselves unavailable? Physical appearance is part of it, but also many get wrapped up in careers, friends, and other interests to the point that they can't or won't go to any activities or places where they can meet single LDS men. Some are also totally emotionally unavailable or have completely unrealistic expectations for a man. To be fair, many men do the same things. My only point is that in the eyes of most local leaders I've dealt with, YSA men are the problem and YSA women are the victims. The truth from what I've seen is both are roughly equally to blame. Not ground-breaking, I know, but it's a pet peeve of mine.
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