VideoGameJunkie Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 Before Jesus came and before the atonement, religious people showed their appreciation to God by killing an animal and offering it to God. Would you be okay doing this if it was brought back or required today? I wouldn't.. I'm a vegetarian and an animal lover. Is anyone else glad we don't live in an era with having to kill animals and offer up the fat? The Old Testament was full of that stuff.
thesometimesaint Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 10 minutes ago, VideoGameJunkie said: Before Jesus came and before the atonement, religious people showed their appreciation to God by killing an animal and offering it to God. Would you be okay doing this if it was brought back or required today? I wouldn't.. I'm a vegetarian and an animal lover. Is anyone else glad we don't live in an era with having to kill animals and offer up the fat? The Old Testament was full of that stuff. I'm a People Eating Tasty Animals, animal loving Christian. SEE https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Timothy-4-3_4-5/
Calm Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 19 minutes ago, VideoGameJunkie said: Before Jesus came and before the atonement, religious people showed their appreciation to God by killing an animal and offering it to God. Would you be okay doing this if it was brought back or required today? I wouldn't.. I'm a vegetarian and an animal lover. Is anyone else glad we don't live in an era with having to kill animals and offer up the fat? The Old Testament was full of that stuff. But you are not a vegan, right? So still use animal products?
Glenn101 Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 13 minutes ago, VideoGameJunkie said: Before Jesus came and before the atonement, religious people showed their appreciation to God by killing an animal and offering it to God. Would you be okay doing this if it was brought back or required today? I wouldn't.. I'm a vegetarian and an animal lover. Is anyone else glad we don't live in an era with having to kill animals and offer up the fat? The Old Testament was full of that stuff. Sure it was. That was part of the law of Moses (treating your last sentence first). Killing animals for sacrifice and for food was part of a way of life, pretty much the normal way of life, during that era. I do not like to kill animals myself, but if God were to decide that we needed to offer animal sacrifices again, I would accept it, If God sets a policy, you can either follow it, or fight against it. However, generally speaking, it does not appear that God will ever institute animal sacrifice again. The Atonement of Jesus Christ was the fulfillment of the Law of Moses and the Lord asks now that we offer a sacrifice of a "broken heart and a contrite spirit." (D&C 59:8) There may be some instance of animal sacrifice yet to be. I do not know. When John the Baptist conferred the Priesthood of Aaron upon Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery he stated "this shall never be taken again from the earth, until the sons of Levi do offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness." (D&C 13:1). I do not know if this pertains to a future event, possibly after the restoration of the Ten Tribes, where converted members of the tribe of Lehi perform such an offering. In any event, I don't think any person not of the tribe of Levi will have to perform such a sacrifice, so, not to worry. Glenn 1
Duncan Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 if we sacrificed mosquitos then sounds great! Problem is with them is you kill one and 1000 attend the funeral..... 1
VideoGameJunkie Posted March 6, 2016 Author Posted March 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Calm said: But you are not a vegan, right? So still use animal products? I am not a vegan. Just a regular vegetarian.
JAHS Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Glenn101 said: Sure it was. That was part of the law of Moses (treating your last sentence first). Killing animals for sacrifice and for food was part of a way of life, pretty much the normal way of life, during that era. I do not like to kill animals myself, but if God were to decide that we needed to offer animal sacrifices again, I would accept it, If God sets a policy, you can either follow it, or fight against it. However, generally speaking, it does not appear that God will ever institute animal sacrifice again. The Atonement of Jesus Christ was the fulfillment of the Law of Moses and the Lord asks now that we offer a sacrifice of a "broken heart and a contrite spirit." (D&C 59:8) There may be some instance of animal sacrifice yet to be. I do not know. When John the Baptist conferred the Priesthood of Aaron upon Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery he stated "this shall never be taken again from the earth, until the sons of Levi do offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness." (D&C 13:1). I do not know if this pertains to a future event, possibly after the restoration of the Ten Tribes, where converted members of the tribe of Lehi perform such an offering. In any event, I don't think any person not of the tribe of Levi will have to perform such a sacrifice, so, not to worry. Glenn "Upon you my fellow servants, in the name of Messiah I confer the Priesthood of Aaron, which holds the keys of the ministering of angels, and of the gospel of repentance, and of baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; and this shall never be taken again from the earth, until the sons of Levi do offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness." (D&C 13:1) The sons of Levi are the male members of the tribe of Levi, descendants of Levi, the third son of the patriarch, Jacob. The nature of this offering that will be made by the sons of Levi is not specifically known. The Prophet Joseph Smith suggested that it might be the same burnt offering as of old: "It is generally supposed that sacrifice was entirely done away when the Great Sacrifice was offered up, and that there will be no necessity for the ordinance of sacrifice in the future; but those who assert this are certainly not acquainted with the duties, privileges, and authority of the Priesthood, or with the prophets. These sacrifices as well as every ordinance, belonging to the priesthood, will when the Temple of the Lord is built, and the sons of Levi be purified, be fully restored and attended to in all their powers, ramifications, and blessings." (D. H. C. "Teachings of the Prophet," p. 172.) "All the ordinances and duties that ever have been required by the Priesthood, under the directions and commandments of the Almighty in any of the dispensations, shall be had in the last dispensation." (History of the Church 4:210-11.) If this is true then the offering will probably not be made until Christ appears in His temple at His second coming. Many are of the opinion, however, that it will not be a burnt offering. They reason that the earlier sacrifices were in similitude of the coming sacrifice of Jesus Christ and that the coming of Christ ended the Mosaic law and the reason for performing the sacrifices. So they propose another type of sacrifice which is suggested in the Doctrine and Covenants: "For he is like a refiner's fire, and like fuller's soap; and he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as old and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness. Let us, therefore, as a church and a people, and as Latter-day Saints, offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness; and let us present in his holy temple, when it is finished, a book containing the records of our dead, which shall be worthy of all acceptation. (D. & C. 128:24) The "offering in righteousness" is here identified with temple work for the salvation of the dead, which encompasses all the principles of the plan of salvation. If understood in this sense, the offering is already being made in temples across the world by members of the Church. 2
JLHPROF Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 "It is generally supposed that sacrifice was entirely done away when the Great Sacrifice [i.e.,] the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus was offered up, and that there will be no necessity for the ordinance of sacrifice in future; but those who assert this are certainly not acquainted with the duties, privileges and authority of the Priesthood, or with the Prophets. The offering of sacrifice has ever been connected and forms a part of the duties of the Priesthood. It began with the Priesthood, and will be continued until after the coming of Christ, from generation to generation. We frequently have mention made of the offering of sacrifice by the servants of the Most High in ancient days, prior to the law of Moses; which ordinances will be continued when the Priesthood is restored with all its authority, power and blessings…. These sacrifices, as well as every ordinance belonging to the Priesthood, will, when the Temple of the Lord shall be built, and the sons of Levi be purified, be fully restored and attended to in all their powers, ramifications, and blessings. This ever did and ever will exist when the powers of the Melchizedek Priesthood are sufficiently manifest; else how can the restitution of all things spoken of by the Holy Prophets be brought to pass. It is not to be understood that the law of Moses will be established again with all its rites and variety of ceremonies; this has never been spoken of by the prophets; but those things which existed prior to Moses' day, namely, sacrifice, will be continued. It may be asked by some, what necessity for sacrifice, since the Great Sacrifice was offered? In answer to which, if repentance, baptism, and faith existed prior to the days of Christ, what necessity for them since that time? The Priesthood has descended in a regular line from father to son, through their succeeding generations.”—Joseph Smith (Oct. 5, 1840), in Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith,, 171-73. 2
Rivers Posted March 7, 2016 Posted March 7, 2016 I look forward to the lion and lamb lying down together. The movie Zootopia got me thinking about this. 1
The Nehor Posted March 7, 2016 Posted March 7, 2016 I would be okay with holy family barbeques coming back.
VideoGameJunkie Posted March 7, 2016 Author Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Thinking said: I have a cat... Me too. I love my cats more than my best friends. If I was commanded to sacrifice them I could never be as brave as Abraham. I would refrain.
USU78 Posted March 7, 2016 Posted March 7, 2016 5 hours ago, The Nehor said: I would be okay with holy family barbeques coming back. Oooooh: sacred cow steaks!
Russell C McGregor Posted March 8, 2016 Posted March 8, 2016 On 06/03/2016 at 8:27 AM, VideoGameJunkie said: Before Jesus came and before the atonement, religious people showed their appreciation to God by killing an animal and offering it to God. Would you be okay doing this if it was brought back or required today? I wouldn't.. I'm a vegetarian and an animal lover. Is anyone else glad we don't live in an era with having to kill animals and offer up the fat? The Old Testament was full of that stuff. I love animals, too. I love them barbecued, I love them roasted, I love them fried, I love them casseroled... You, as a vegetarian (and, like most moderns, one who regularly puts your preferences, fads and enthusiasms ahead of revealed truth) have a basis on which to reject animal sacrifice. (Granted, it would be hard to reject it and still claim to love and obey the Lord, but you do have a basis.) OTOH, normal meat-eating people have no such basis. They're just squeamish about the process by which they get their meat.
Thinking Posted March 8, 2016 Posted March 8, 2016 20 hours ago, VideoGameJunkie said: Me too. I love my cats more than my best friends. If I was commanded to sacrifice them I could never be as brave as Abraham. I would refrain. I have a cat... I don't like cats. The cat really belongs to my daughter - who is married and living in an apartment that doesn't allow pets. So now I help feed and clean up after the cat. Would I sacrifice this cat? No. Would I want to? Yes. But I won't. I'm such a softy. 1
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