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I must say that it seems that some lds women are just a little immature. The world is falling apart and some mormon women are doing such protests. It is getting just a little crazy out there. If this is the depth of mormon intellectualism, I have to say that all is lost in the lds church. However, the bishop showed signs of intellectual immaturity also. What to do with a church with such members as these women and bishop?

I say tar and feather them all and ride them out of town on a rail, burn their homes and crops, kill their livestock, and salt their fields! Well, maybe just a good laugh would suffice.

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My excuse is that it was really late at night when I read the OP and this silliness of today's women is a 'hair trigger' factor for me  :crazy:  :nea:

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Chief Lamoni News Service

Dateline Salt Lake City

1 September 2015

Prucella Pratt Young-Greevence, President of the dissident Mormon feminist group Arraign Women and great-great-great-great grandaughter of Brigham Young, released a statement yesterday demanding Church leaders allow women to play on all-male ward basketball teams.The statement was timed to coincide with the opening of the annual church basketball season in Hurricane, Utah.

Citing a ground-breaking study by Mormon historian Phil Buggley, Young-Greevence called on Church leaders to acknowledge the role of women in 19th-century manly Mormon sports such as stick pulling, marble shooting, hoop trumbling, and mumblypeg. "It's time for the Brethren to own up to the truth," she exclaimed. Indeed, "Mormon leaders have traditionally limited these activities to men, but the evidence clearly shows several women and girls actually competed with men in these events at a ward picnic in Hurricane in 1887," Buggley wrote. (1)

Historians disagree over the extent of their participation, but Buggley has unearthed several daguerreotypes of what appear to be Mormon pioneer girls holding clearies and pocket knives in the presence of Mormon deacons. "The Church can no longer deny this. The pictures prove women participated in these games," Buggley told this reporter. BYU religion instructor Brashley Foggelstone has contradicted Buggley. "It's obvious the girls were only holding the objects for the boys. Anyway, those might be cat's eyes, not clearies. Real men did not play with cat's eyes." "That's nonsense," Buggley replied.

To honor the memory of their pioneer sisters, Arraign Women plan to surround the Hurricane First Ward chapel with women brandishing sticks, hula hoops (you know...for kids), steelies, and butterknives, and engage in random competitive matches. Some may even dare to challenge each other in the much more masculine game of splits. "Of course, Mormon men no longer play these sports, but they do play basketball, and that's where we are headed. We demand our rights to play along side them. We can get in their faces literally and figuratively. Church basketball will no longer be the domain of Mormon men!" declared Ima B. Pushey, local Hurricane AW events co-ordinator.

Hurricane First Ward Bishop Dorsal Armbend said Arraign Women will be welcomed to the opening game, but they may participate only in their traditional role as cheer leaders. "They will not actually touch a ball or stand inside the lines," he said. "We don't feel it's right to expose them to the rough and tumble style of play our men are accustomed to. Why, just last year [stake] President B. Orson Frugal cancelled the season when a fight broke out between a bishop and two elders quorum presidents. Our sisters are too refined and genteel for that. Besides, they have their own quilting bees in Relief Society and Young Women," Bishop Armbend clarified.

In a news conference, Young-Greevence and Pushey called on AW sisters all over the world to join in solidarity with the demonstration by wearing basketball jerseys to church. Men are invited to wear mauve ties to show their support. Organizers expect crowds of at least six women to show up at the event.

"Let 'em come," challenged Hurricane Sheriff J. Oscar Whiskers . "We'll show them how we Arraign Women here in Hurricane!"

(1) Phil Buggley, "Sisters in Knickers: The Little-Known Involvement of Mormon Women in 19th-Century Male Amusements," p.1435. Moonshine Institute, 2015.

Great stuff!
mfbukowski Grand Master

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You know I find it disturbing to think about that smiley in that post having to stay buried in the archives somehow since 2007 googling his eyes for all those years without anyone even seeing him.

 

That has got to be smiley hell.

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mfbukowski Grand Master

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I try for authenticity. I thought the hula hoops would be the smoking gun.

You are as crazy as I am.  Must be something about the ancestry.  I am proven to be bi-Polish.

Also the mark of the best and all that

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Calm Grand Master

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You know I find it disturbing to think about that smiley in that post having to stay buried in the archives somehow since 2007 googling his eyes for all those years without anyone even seeing him.

 

That has got to be smiley hell.

Don't make me laugh. I have to get one more set of breathing exercises in the next minute.

mfbukowski Grand Master

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Don't make me laugh. I have to get one more set of breathing exercises in the next minute.

I didn't know the baby was due so soon.

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mfbukowski Grand Master

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:P pneumonia exercises,twit....

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Bernard Gui Grand Master

Bernard Gui

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You know I find it disturbing to think about that smiley in that post having to stay buried in the archives somehow since 2007 googling his eyes for all those years without anyone even seeing him.

 

That has got to be smiley hell.

Weird thought.

Bernard Gui Grand Master

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You are as crazy as I am.  Must be something about the ancestry.  I am proven to be bi-Polish.

Also the mark of the best and all that

Well, it took a Polish Pope to bring down communism. Just imagine what a Polish Prophet could do!

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Bernard Gui Grand Master

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Thanks for posting those old-timey news flashes. Has it been that long? No way! Where did the time go?

Two things really struck me about reading this blast from the past. First is how the game has changed. Not so much rabid opposition any more from our Evangelical friends.....that been taken over by LDS dissidents and secular humanists. Second is that my writing style and thinking processes haven't changed much over 13 years. Not sure that's a good thing.

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Well, it took a Polish Pope to bring down communism. Just imagine what a Polish Prophet could do!

Well you know, seriously I think there is some definite tendency culturally or with us as a people which connects naturally to religion

As of 2005 a majority of Poles, approximately 88%, identified themselves as Roman Catholic, and 58% said they are active practicing Catholics, according to a survey by the Centre for Public Opinion Research.%5B5%5D According to the Ministry of Foreigns Affairs of the Republic of Poland, 95% of Poles belong to the Roman Catholic Church;%5B6%5D however, this survey bases the number of adherents on the number of infants baptized,%5B7%5D as provided by the Catholic Church. The CIA Factbook gives a number of 87.2% belonging to the Roman Catholic Church in 2012.%5B8%5D

Throughout Europe the rates of religious observance has steadily decreased. Poland has also been following this trend. It remains one of the most devoutly religious countries in Europe. Polish Catholics participate in the sacraments more frequently than their counterparts in most Western European and North American countries. A 2009 study by the Church itself revealed that 80% of Poles go to confession at least once a year, while 60% of the respondents say they do so more often than once a year.%5B9%5D By contrast, a 2005 study by Georgetown University's Center for Applied Research on the Apostolate revealed that only 14% of American Catholics take part in the sacrament of penance once a year, with a mere 2% doing so more frequently.%5B10%5DTarnów is the most religious city in Poland, and Łódź is the least. The southern and eastern parts of Poland are more active in their religious practices than those of the West and North. The majority of Poles continue to declare themselves Roman Catholic.%5B11%5D This is in stark contrast to the otherwise similar neighboring Czech Republic, which is one of the least religious practicing areas on Earth, with only 19% declaring "they believe there is a God" of any kind.

https://www.google.com/search?q=polish+catholicism&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

In my family we have a lot of evidence of "ESP" kind of experiences- knowing when events have happened instantly to family members in distant locations, dreams and visions, etc. as well as a lot of nature lore. I often know when a family member is going to call on the phone and reach for it before it rings without even consciously knowing I am doing it- I will suddenly think of them and find my hand on the phone, and then it rings.   Even living in Western New York, my great grandmother would go out and pick wild mushrooms which were the tastiest I have ever had, and of course she knew which species were non-poisonous.  She knew all the herbs and their best uses- and was totally in touch with nature.

 

So who knows? 

 

I know we have missionaries over there

 

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Bernard Gui Grand Master

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Well you know, seriously I think there is some definite tendency culturally or with us as a people which connects naturally to religion

https://www.google.com/search?q=polish+catholicism&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

In my family we have a lot of evidence of "ESP" kind of experiences- knowing when events have happened instantly to family members in distant locations, dreams and visions, etc. as well as a lot of nature lore. I often know when a family member is going to call on the phone and reach for it before it rings without even consciously knowing I am doing it- I will suddenly think of them and find my hand on the phone, and then it rings. Even living in Western New York, my great grandmother would go out and pick wild mushrooms which were the tastiest I have ever had, and of course she knew which species were non-poisonous. She knew all the herbs and their best uses- and was totally in touch with nature.

I know we have missionaries over there.

There is great truth in what you say. The Poles are special people who passionately love God and freedom.You just described my dad and the stories he told me about his wonderful mother who came over around 1880. Our third son, Peter, was named after grandfather Piotr who was a devout Catholic...organist, choir director, teacher, and sexton at his church in Bayonne, NJ. When Peter was born, my dad predicted - and my wife wrote secretly in her journal back in 1975 when it was absurd to even consider it - that Peter would serve a mission in Poland!

At the time, we were living in Rockford, Illinois, and were very good friends with Matt Cembranowicz who became a crucial player in getting Poland opened for missionary work and with his wife served as the the first missionary in Poland, and Walter Whipple, who became the first Poland Mission President. Our son Peter was one of the early missionaries in Poland! Miracle of miracles. We have always felt Piotr was with us in all these events.

For decades, we have been frustrated and discouraged in our failed efforts to do our Polish genealogy, but just last month we found my grandmother Jadwiga Levandowicz's family in Kozmin, Poznan, and now we have almost 50 of her relatives going back to 1790 ready for temple work. More miracles! Three of our grandchildren are going to do the baptisms, and our other married children and we will do the other ordinances for them.

It will take more miracles to find Piotr's family, but based on our experience, we are confident it will happen. My dad and I are the only LDS in Piotr and Jadwiga's family and I am the only male grandson with his surname. Fortunately, we have a lot of kids who will to build on their legacy.

What's your story?

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