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When we are called to positions in the church we are not required to sign any kind of contract. Bishops, High Councilors, Primary Presidents ...whatever calling is handed over and the receiver accepts verbally. The nearest exception I can think of is a Full Time Missionary writing a letter of acceptance of the mission call which could be considered a contract of sorts. Contracts just aren't a part of the church world.

 

On the other hand legal contracts are very much a part of corporate work life. Certainly we would expect to see legal contracts within the church's operations for labor, purchases, maintenance agreements etc.

 

So what happens when the two worlds collide? What if an "ecclesiastical calling" is also a "corporate job" like we see with the apostles and prophet. Are apostles and the prophet required to sign legal contracts as corporate employees/board members?

 

If so, what would that contract look like?

 a. Morality clause?

    1- stated testimony

    2- no misconduct

 b. Length of service

 

etc.

 

I'd never really thought about whether or not apostles signed legal contracts in acceptance of their calling but I think it's an interesting question. Does anyone have any knowledge about this?

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When we are called to positions in the church we are not required to sign any kind of contract. Bishops, High Councilors, Primary Presidents ...whatever calling is handed over and the receiver accepts verbally. The nearest exception I can think of is a Full Time Missionary writing a letter of acceptance of the mission call which could be considered a contract of sorts. Contracts just aren't a part of the church world.

 

On the other hand legal contracts are very much a part of corporate work life. Certainly we would expect to see legal contracts within the church's operations for labor, purchases, maintenance agreements etc.

 

So what happens when the two worlds collide? What if an "ecclesiastical calling" is also a "corporate job" like we see with the apostles and prophet. Are apostles and the prophet required to sign legal contracts as corporate employees/board members?

 

If so, what would that contract look like?

 a. Morality clause?

    1- stated testimony

    2- no misconduct

 b. Length of service

 

etc.

 

I'd never really thought about whether or not apostles signed legal contracts in acceptance of their calling but I think it's an interesting question. Does anyone have any knowledge about this?

 

If they did, they probably couldn't say. Attorney client privilege and all. 

 

But, hey let's speculate anyway.

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You have to signing authority for cheques and Salt Lake has to be notified and you get a neato certificate! and a Marriage authorization thing for you performing weddings and junkola 

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If they did, they probably couldn't say. Attorney client privilege and all. 

 

But, hey let's speculate anyway.

There are sources of information beyond someone breaking attorney client privilege as a church attorney.

It does make me wonder about other types of confidentiality agreements though, both for the Q15 and also more general church employee types.

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Hmmm..if there are any signatures/signings.I would hope that it is like a legal testimony.  "I promise to tel the truth, the whole truth..so help me God."

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You have to signing authority for cheques and Salt Lake has to be notified and you get a neato certificate! and a Marriage authorization thing for you performing weddings and junkola 

 

Thumbs up for your post!! Is "junkola" a Canada-specific term; or did it possibly originate in your mind? :clapping:

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Thumbs up for your post!! Is "junkola" a Canada-specific term; or did it possibly originate in your mind? :clapping:

I second that: what's the answer, eh? ;)

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Thumbs up for your post!! Is "junkola" a Canada-specific term; or did it possibly originate in your mind? :clapping:

 

 

oh, it's older than me for sure!!! hahahhahaha!

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It is in the urban dictionary, but not cited for where it began...I've heard it as well, but then I've lived in Canada so maybe that's where.

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When we are called to positions in the church we are not required to sign any kind of contract. Bishops, High Councilors, Primary Presidents ...whatever calling is handed over and the receiver accepts verbally. The nearest exception I can think of is a Full Time Missionary writing a letter of acceptance of the mission call which could be considered a contract of sorts. Contracts just aren't a part of the church world.

On the other hand legal contracts are very much a part of corporate work life. Certainly we would expect to see legal contracts within the church's operations for labor, purchases, maintenance agreements etc.

So what happens when the two worlds collide? What if an "ecclesiastical calling" is also a "corporate job" like we see with the apostles and prophet. Are apostles and the prophet required to sign legal contracts as corporate employees/board members?

If so, what would that contract look like?

a. Morality clause?

1- stated testimony

2- no misconduct

b. Length of service

etc.

I'd never really thought about whether or not apostles signed legal contracts in acceptance of their calling but I think it's an interesting question. Does anyone have any knowledge about this?

Interesting question. I don't know the answer, but I'm curious as well now.

Why would this be an attorney client privilege thing? It's now secret that my DH has now signed 3 (at least) contracts with employers and nothing in them are secret.

DH figures they do sign contracts if for no other reason than what happens the business when he dies or legal action is taken against it.

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Interesting question. I don't know the answer, but I'm curious as well now.

Why would this be an attorney client privilege thing? It's now secret that my DH has now signed 3 (at least) contracts with employers and nothing in them are secret.

DH figures they do sign contracts if for no other reason than what happens the business when he dies or legal action is taken against it.

 

 

and what does "DH" mean?

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Dear husband. Sorry, it is a common term for most of the boards I have been on, but now I wonder if I have ever seen it here. I don't think I have. DW (wife), DS (son), DD (daughter), DB (brother) Are other terms.

Posted

Class, let's use both of those terms in a sentence.  Ready?

 

"I've been trying to get DH to get all of the junkola out of the garage for months now!"

 

:D:rofl::D

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