thesometimesaint Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 I do. I run marathons so I can be outright paranoid about my diet. I have a weakness for sweets but that's about it. I figure that if I take care of myself now hopefully I can stay active well into my golden years and be like those 60-70 year olds who run marathons. That, and considering the way healthcare is going in the USA there will not be much if any money left in medicare so those who make bad health choices while young will really be in a difficult position when they're older. Yeah those evening snacks are brutal, I try not to eat anything three hours before bedtime and keep dinners healthy and light. You sound like you already do much that is already in the WoW. The LDS believe the body is a temple to God. We don't deliberately desecrate our temples.
poptart Posted June 15, 2014 Author Posted June 15, 2014 You sound like you already do much that is already in the WoW. The LDS believe the body is a temple to God. We don't deliberately desecrate our temples.I didn't have a good life growing up so I had to fend for myself a lot so I learned early on that one of the big things to living a good life is having good health, everything stems from that. Having seen more than a few people I knew way back when destroy themselves and end up dead on drugs or poor lifestyle choices as well as having an alcoholic father was a very good life lesson in what not to do. Natural selection does apply to people. Honestly I'm amazed that so many people live as long as they do considering the bad choices they make.
Garden Girl Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I do. I run marathons so I can be outright paranoid about my diet. I have a weakness for sweets but that's about it. I figure that if I take care of myself now hopefully I can stay active well into my golden years and be like those 60-70 year olds who run marathons. That, and considering the way healthcare is going in the USA there will not be much if any money left in medicare so those who make bad health choices while young will really be in a difficult position when they're older. Yeah those evening snacks are brutal, I try not to eat anything three hours before bedtime and keep dinners healthy and light. This is absolutely the wisest thing you can do at a younger age... I played singles tennis throughout my life, and well into my late 40's, and before that in school I was on all the "honor" sports teams... soccer was my favorite. So I was very youthful for my age. In my 60's people throught I was about 50. Then when my husband passed away I sort of let myself go... and the older I got the harder it has become to lose extra pounds...sigh... I'm 73 now, and I am starting to notice "my age." I don't walk with the same gait (knee replacement due to all those tennis years), and have some minor arthritis, etc. But i'm still a very good 73 and people still think I'm younger... When I say my morning prayers I always express gratitude that I feel so well... And i do chalk it up to my physical activity when I was younger, as you are doing now. GG
poptart Posted June 16, 2014 Author Posted June 16, 2014 This is absolutely the wisest thing you can do at a younger age... I played singles tennis throughout my life, and well into my late 40's, and before that in school I was on all the "honor" sports teams... soccer was my favorite. So I was very youthful for my age. In my 60's people throught I was about 50. Then when my husband passed away I sort of let myself go... and the older I got the harder it has become to lose extra pounds...sigh... I'm 73 now, and I am starting to notice "my age." I don't walk with the same gait (knee replacement due to all those tennis years), and have some minor arthritis, etc. But i'm still a very good 73 and people still think I'm younger... When I say my morning prayers I always express gratitude that I feel so well... And i do chalk it up to my physical activity when I was younger, as you are doing now. GGI had a really rough life and all things considered its a miracle I'm alive, but I am so I make the most of it. I decided in my mid 20's I was not going to let myself go like many of my peers were doing and comited to living a healthy lifestyle and it was so worth it. I'm almost 33 and look like i'm in my early to mid 20's. I take fierce pride in knowing I didn't get hooked to drugs or became an overweight, bitter alcoholic and can outrun High school kids who play soccer or do track and field. What amazes me is how you never see kids nowadays playing outside. I remember as a kid once summer rolled around I was outside being a modern day huckleberry fin, doing stuff in the woods, fishing, camping, and all the other things boys do. Man seems like no one does that anymore. That's another thing I'm grateful for, I think this day and age is a real lousy time to be a young person in the United States, its like they can't even be kids anymore. I don't know why the parents let them live like that, its like they're setting them up for a lifetime of unhealthy living.
Kenngo1969 Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I do. I run marathons so I can be outright paranoid about my diet. I have a weakness for sweets but that's about it. I figure that if I take care of myself now hopefully I can stay active well into my golden years and be like those 60-70 year olds who run marathons. [Emphasis added by Kenngo1969.] That, and considering the way healthcare is going in the USA there will not be much if any money left in medicare so those who make bad health choices while young will really be in a difficult position when they're older. Yeah those evening snacks are brutal, I try not to eat anything three hours before bedtime and keep dinners healthy and light. 60s and 70s? Aim higher, my young Padawan. Aim higher! (Why should one quit in his 60s or 70s, when he's only a youngster? ) http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/06/04/1-year-old-woman-sets-new-marathon-record-for-age-group/ 1
strappinglad Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Starting now and for the next 20 years, the healthcare system will feel the effects of the boomer generation. Unfortunately, that will be the tip of the iceberg because the current under 20 somethings and their sedentary lifestyles will impact the system with chronic illnesses much earlier than today's boomers. If only the nation could commit to disease prevention and healthy lifestyles rather than focusing on fixing what is broken after the fact.
Avatar4321 Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 When you have the Lord reveal in power that it's true, obedience to it is far from blind. It becomes very obvious and clear. And yes, if we are faithful, we don't drink alcohol. Isn't it wonderful? 2
Garden Girl Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) I had a really rough life and all things considered its a miracle I'm alive, but I am so I make the most of it. I decided in my mid 20's I was not going to let myself go like many of my peers were doing and comited to living a healthy lifestyle and it was so worth it. I'm almost 33 and look like i'm in my early to mid 20's. I take fierce pride in knowing I didn't get hooked to drugs or became an overweight, bitter alcoholic and can outrun High school kids who play soccer or do track and field. What amazes me is how you never see kids nowadays playing outside. I remember as a kid once summer rolled around I was outside being a modern day huckleberry fin, doing stuff in the woods, fishing, camping, and all the other things BOYS do. Man seems like no one does that anymore. That's another thing I'm grateful for, I think this day and age is a real lousy time to be a young person in the United States, its like they can't even be kids anymore. I don't know why the parents let them live like that, its like they're setting them up for a lifetime of unhealthy living. Isn't that the truth... when we were kids we rode our bikes, skated on the sidewalks, baseball, kick the can until dark... nowadays most young people are at a computer playing virtual games (violence). My sis goes crazy at family gatherings because the young people for sure, and most of the adults, all have these hand-held devices that they are texting or playing... everyone with their heads down, not really engaging in meaningful conversation. Modern tech is wonderful, but it has a downside... no wonder our young people are so out of shape. Do they even have gym class at school anymore? We had to change into shorts and go out and have physical activity... it's a different world, and not entirely for the better. I can testify that the amount of physical activity we do when younger definitely impacts our physical health as we age. Edit to add: You'll note I capitalized "BOYS" in your post... does this mean you're a male... somehow I thought you were female... which brings to mind (unless I missed it), how about sharing something about yourself if you feel comfortable doing so... like the area you're from, etc. Just general... GG Edited June 16, 2014 by Garden Girl
poptart Posted June 16, 2014 Author Posted June 16, 2014 60s and 70s? Aim higher, my young Padawan. Aim higher! (Why should one quit in his 60s or 70s, when he's only a youngster? ) http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/06/04/1-year-old-woman-sets-new-marathon-record-for-age-group/hmmm, time to step my game up. Starting now and for the next 20 years, the healthcare system will feel the effects of the boomer generation. Unfortunately, that will be the tip of the iceberg because the current under 20 somethings and their sedentary lifestyles will impact the system with chronic illnesses much earlier than today's boomers. If only the nation could commit to disease prevention and healthy lifestyles rather than focusing on fixing what is broken after the fact.It will be scary. Where is the money going to come from? Add in that no one really gets along anymore and you hear more and more people just shooting someplace up really does make me feel uneasy. Guess if all else fails I can just go north and build a cabin. When you have the Lord reveal in power that it's true, obedience to it is far from blind. It becomes very obvious and clear. And yes, if we are faithful, we don't drink alcohol. Isn't it wonderful?I don't work that way, I want to see statistics, numbers, etc. Now if God so chose to ohh, I don't know, send someone like St Ignatius Loyola down from heaven and explain it to me man that would make me faithful fast. Always been a fan of him. Why would it be wonderful not to drink? I guess the only good parts would be no alcoholism and the financial savings. Isn't that the truth... when we were kids we rode our bikes, skated on the sidewalks, baseball, kick the can until dark... nowadays most young people are at a computer playing virtual games (violence). My sis goes crazy at family gatherings because the young people for sure, and most of the adults, all have these hand-held devices that they are texting or playing... everyone with their heads down, not really engaging in meaningful conversation. Modern tech is wonderful, but it has a downside... no wonder our young people are so out of shape. Do they even have gym class at school anymore? We had to change into shorts and go out and have physical activity... it's a different world, and not entirely for the better. I can testify that the amount of physical activity we do when younger definitely impacts our physical health as we age. Edit to add: You'll note I capitalized "BOYS" in your post... does this mean you're a male... somehow I thought you were female... which brings to mind (unless I missed it), how about sharing something about yourself if you feel comfortable doing so... like the area you're from, etc. Just general... GGMe and my hiking buddies talk about that all the time. It just seems unnatural to be like that. And yeah, everyone communicates through smart phones, that disturbs me. Think the only thing that scares me more is how they keep shoving anti-depressants and what not down kids throats like they were skittles. I sometimes meet 21 year olds who are on a cocktail of meds for whatever mental problems they get diagnosed with. Big pharma at work. Yep, male, but I love cute things and cartoons and bands like owl city so yeah not the typical guy in that regard. Not into watching violent things very much, don't see the point. Moved around a lot as a kid, planning on moving to Seattle in a year and probably moving to Vancouver Canada when I can. I mostly run, work out and fly kites. I tend to live low key a and really like peace and quiet. I tend to be somewhat open minded but am fairly cautious about people since I notice they are getting nastier and nastier as time goes on. Why can't we all just get along, its not that hard ;_;
Storm Rider Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 You will love the Seattle area. I suspect you will feel right at home. That is my home and it is a beautiful place to live with year round activities and great people to enjoy.
Tacenda Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Yesterday I saw my kids, who were visiting their dad for Father's Day, on their phones a little bit, which irritated me. Atleast I wait till they go before looking at mine.
poptart Posted June 16, 2014 Author Posted June 16, 2014 You will love the Seattle area. I suspect you will feel right at home. That is my home and it is a beautiful place to live with year round activities and great people to enjoy. I've been there a few times and loved it. Also, I miss living in an area that has a real nice woodlands and an ocean. Can't wait to move. Yesterday I saw my kids, who were visiting their dad for Father's Day, on their phones a little bit, which irritated me. Atleast I wait till they go before looking at mine. Heh, that makes me think that common courtesy is like common sense in that both are not too common.
poptart Posted June 16, 2014 Author Posted June 16, 2014 Oh, someone mentioned the words of wisdom, so how similar is it to Kosher stuff?
thesometimesaint Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I didn't have a good life growing up so I had to fend for myself a lot so I learned early on that one of the big things to living a good life is having good health, everything stems from that. Having seen more than a few people I knew way back when destroy themselves and end up dead on drugs or poor lifestyle choices as well as having an alcoholic father was a very good life lesson in what not to do. Natural selection does apply to people. Honestly I'm amazed that so many people live as long as they do considering the bad choices they make. I'm a convert myself at 20 years old. I knew a man that was an 7 pack a day smoker. Yikes. Joined the Church late in life. He stopped "Cold Turkey" and didn't look back.
thesometimesaint Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Oh, someone mentioned the words of wisdom, so how similar is it to Kosher stuff? It isn't really. So you can eat all the ham and cheese sandwiches and wash them down with all the unfermented grape juice you want. Edited June 16, 2014 by thesometimesaint
Calm Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Oh, someone mentioned the words of wisdom, so how similar is it to Kosher stuff?Just in the sense it is a religious covenant that members agree to abide by. If I understand it correctly, a lot of kosher laws came about as a response to idolatrous practices. Other was about clean vs. unclean animals in the sense of religious purity. The WoW came about due to Joseph Smith responding to a request by his wife to do something about the mess the men were making with their tobacco. God took that and built on to it a principle that would not only lead to healthier practices but would work as a social marker to set his people apart (which the kosher laws do as well for Jews). 1
poptart Posted June 16, 2014 Author Posted June 16, 2014 I'm a convert myself at 20 years old. I knew a man that was an 7 pack a day smoker. Yikes. Joined the Church late in life. He stopped "Cold Turkey" and didn't look back.why anyone would chose to smoke and turn themselves into human jerkey is beyond me, but to each their own, just keep those stinky cancer sticks away from me. It isn't really. So you can eat all the ham and cheese sandwiches and wash them down with all the unfermented grape juice you want. I sometimes buy kosher food as a way to get heathier food without having to go to whole foods and spend all my money. Pork is about the only time I draw the line. Stuff is awesome barbequed. Either that, or toss some in a crock pot, let it cook all day, serve with potatoes and sauer kraut and potatoes, yummy.
poptart Posted June 16, 2014 Author Posted June 16, 2014 Just in the sense it is a religious covenant that members agree to abide by. If I understand it correctly, a lot of kosher laws came about as a response to idolatrous practices. Other was about clean vs. unclean animals in the sense of religious purity. The WoW came about due to Joseph Smith responding to a request by his wife to do something about the mess the men were making with their tobacco. God took that and built on to it a principle that would not only lead to healthier practices but would work as a social marker to set his people apart (which the kosher laws do as well for Jews).Man more power to you then I hate tobacco, it smells awful. Like I said I opt for Kosher food sometimes as a way to get healthier food at a better price. Also kosher pickles are great with sandwiches.
Calm Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 why anyone would chose to smoke and turn themselves into human jerkey is beyond me, but to each their own, just keep those stinky cancer sticks away from me. Immediate gratification/pleasure is a powerful motivator especially when withdrawal can be so very, very unpleasant for some. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine As nicotine enters the body, it is distributed quickly through the bloodstream and crosses the blood–brain barrier reaching the brain within 10–20 seconds after inhalation.[23] ... By binding to nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, nicotine increases the levels of several neurotransmitters – acting as a sort of "volume control". It is thought that increased levels of dopamine in the reward circuits of the brain are a major contributor to the apparent euphoria and relaxation, and addiction caused by nicotine consumption….. Nicotine also activates the sympathetic nervous system,[42] acting via splanchnic nerves to the adrenal medulla, stimulates the release of epinephrine. Acetylcholine released by preganglionic sympathetic fibers of these nerves acts on nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, causing the release of epinephrine (and noradrenaline) into the bloodstream.
poptart Posted June 16, 2014 Author Posted June 16, 2014 Immediate gratification/pleasure is a powerful motivator especially when withdrawal can be so very, very unpleasant for some. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine As nicotine enters the body, it is distributed quickly through the bloodstream and crosses the blood–brain barrier reaching the brain within 10–20 seconds after inhalation.[23] ... By binding to nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, nicotine increases the levels of several neurotransmitters – acting as a sort of "volume control". It is thought that increased levels of dopamine in the reward circuits of the brain are a major contributor to the apparent euphoria and relaxation, and addiction caused by nicotine consumption….. Nicotine also activates the sympathetic nervous system,[42] acting via splanchnic nerves to the adrenal medulla, stimulates the release of epinephrine. Acetylcholine released by preganglionic sympathetic fibers of these nerves acts on nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, causing the release of epinephrine (and noradrenaline) into the bloodstream.just what I wanted to read on a monday morning. This just reminds me why I tend to keep to myself and do my own thing and avoid the masses, they just cause trouble for themselves and once they ruin their health they want sympathy. I know we all make bad choices, but after all the stuff thats out there, would think people would think twice. This really reminds me of drug addiction, peoples lives end up so bad its the only escape they think they have. (cringes internally) I think its easier for me to say that since I've never fooled around with a lot of that stuff and now that i'm older I can see the results so that just motivates me even more to stay as clean as possible. And of all things, why cigarettes, pot is legal where I live and in Washington where I want to move and you can just make a brownie out of it and avoid the carconagens. Some people just cannot pick their vices.
frank_jessop Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) So, is it true mormons don't drink at all?Does the LDS Faith have a "health guidelines"? Yes, the health guideline is known as the "Word of Wisdom". Here is what the Church has published regarding the "Word of Wisdom":[T]he Church revelation spelling out health practices (Doctrine and Covenants 89) does not mention the use of caffeine. The Church’s health guidelines prohibit alcoholic drinks, smoking or chewing of tobacco, and “hot drinks” — taught by Church leaders to refer specifically to tea and coffee. *"Will you find Mormons who drink alcoholic drinks? Yes you will. Will you find Mormons who drink tea? Yes you will?To a different point, I am not aware of any official statement from the LDS Church which distinguishes "herbal tea" as NOT being a "tea" prohibited by the Word of Wisdom. Such a statement might exist but I am unaware of it. Edited June 16, 2014 by frank_jessop
thesometimesaint Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Does the LDS Faith have a "health guidelines"? Yes, the health guideline is known as the "Word of Wisdom".Here is what the Church has published regarding the "Word of Wisdom":[T]he Church revelation spelling out health practices (Doctrine and Covenants 89) does not mention the use of caffeine. The Church’s health guidelines prohibit alcoholic drinks, smoking or chewing of tobacco, and “hot drinks” — taught by Church leaders to refer specifically to tea and coffee. *"Will you find Mormons who drink alcoholic drinks? Yes you will. Will you find Mormons who drink tea? Yes you will?To a different point, I am not aware of any official statement from the LDS Church which distinguishes "herbal tea" as NOT being a "tea" prohibited by the Word of Wisdom. Such a statement might exist but I am unaware of it. Herbal Tea's are not Tea. IE; Mormon TeaSEE http://www.gcrg.org/bqr/7-3/mormon-tea.htm The stuff tastes terrible, but it is not against the WoW.
frank_jessop Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Herbal Tea's are not Tea.Do you have any statements from the LDS Church on the matter?
Calm Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 More than likely in Handbook 1 or something that has to do with temple recommend interviews.
JLHPROF Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Do you have any statements from the LDS Church on the matter? Interpretation of the WoW is such a rigamarole...The actual scripture says one thing, the Church leadership says another, the early Church leadership says/practiced another, and who can actually tell anymore what God actually thinks about the subject. So it comes down to personal choice - you choose who to follow. You follow current Church requirements (to keep your recommend), you follow older stricter requirements (no caffeinated soda), you follow older easier requirements, your follow the scripture exactly as revealed. It's still anyone's guess what God wants us to do.
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