Success

[Stone holm]

Can anyone define "success" in a manner which is consistent both with Mormon standards and a competitive based economic system?

[Questing Beast]

"We have sufficient for our needs", and desire no more than that for ourselves and everyone else....

[The Nehor]

Becoming exalted and ruling all of creation in supernal joy. Then make sure that lots of other people are damned so they do not hog all the scarce resources.

[Kenngo1969]

Becoming exalted and ruling all of creation in supernal joy. Then make sure that lots of other people are damned so they do not hog all the scarce resources.

[Stone holm]

Becoming exalted and ruling all of creation in supernal joy. Then make sure that lots of other people are damned so they do not hog all the scarce resources.

Interesting concept...in other words do a lot of missionary work?

[The Nehor]

Interesting concept...in other words do a lot of missionary work?

I think you are better off just trying to alienate people from the Church who are more accountable. Downside: Doing so sends you to hell. Hmmm.... may need a new strategy.

[JarMan]

Can anyone define "success" in a manner which is consistent both with Mormon standards and a competitive based economic system?

The real question is whether there is any type of success that is inconsistent with Mormon standards. Why don't you give that a shot?

[Calm]

Becoming exalted and ruling all of creation in supernal joy. Then make sure that lots of other people are damned so they do not hog all the scarce resources.

[why me]

Can anyone define "success" in a manner which is consistent both with Mormon standards and a competitive based economic system?

I think that this is a problem. The American LDS do seem to be 'success' oriented within the definitions of a competitive economic system: acquiring the good life through comfortable living and possessions. But I must also say that since the lds church has expanded in population this is not always the case. When we take a step outside the USA, we see the lds with a different value structure from the American norm. However, I have never read an article in a church magazine that says that success is through materialism. Just the opposite.

We all need to consider just how the socio-economic system that we live under influences who and what we are.

[Traela]

Having enough for our needs, and enough to bless the lives of those who, for whatever reason, have not been so successful/lucky.

[mfbukowski]

Can anyone define "success" in a manner which is consistent both with Mormon standards and a competitive based economic system?

Being self reliant both temporally and spiritually.

Gosh that was tough

[CV75]

Can anyone define "success" in a manner which is consistent both with Mormon standards and a competitive based economic system?

Success is the condition where one has advanced by virtue of competing with himself in some aspect of economic endeavor while voluntarily sharing his advancements and achievements with others so that all might do the same and expand these and other endeavors in quantity, quality and type.

[CV75]

We all need to consider just how the socio-economic system that we live under influences who and what we are.

Or, how our attitude with the Light of Christ influences our approach to and ue of the socio-economic system that we live under.

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

Being self reliant both temporally and spiritually.

Gosh that was tough

You mean....... it doesnt come from the government? Oh man we should pass laws.

[The Nehor]

The real question is whether there is any type of success that is inconsistent with Mormon standards. Why don't you give that a shot?

Successful genocide?

[mfbukowski]

You mean....... it doesnt come from the government? Oh man we should pass laws.

Most definitely.

Clearly we need someone smarter than us to handle our affairs for us. You can't just have people running around and being self reliant. No telling what kind of trouble that might make.

They might actually make more money than someone else! Horrible!!

Except of course movie stars. They deserve all the money they make because they calm us down and entertain us - sports figures also. That's what we need- more entertainment.

Can't have people thinking for themselves- that's dangerous.

[CV75]

Except of course movie stars. They deserve all the money they make because they calm us down and entertain us - sports figures also.

Sphia Loren calms you down?

[Stone holm]

Except of course movie stars. They deserve all the money they make because they calm us down and entertain us - sports figures also. That's what we need- more entertainment.

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Because they serve the same function as gladiators did for the Roman Empire, to keep the masses distracted so they didn't notice their poverty.

[Stone holm]

Sphia Loren calms you down?

Wow...you just truly dated yourself.....

[bluebell]

Because they serve the same function as gladiators did for the Roman Empire, to keep the masses distracted so they didn't notice their poverty.

Bread and circuses.

Roman leaders generally understood that if you could keep the poor fed and entertained they'll give you all the power you need to be as corrupt as you want.

[Stone holm]

Bread and circuses.

Roman leaders generally understood that if you could keep the poor fed and entertained they'll give you all the power you need to be as corrupt as you want.

Yep, still basically works. Except now perhaps you can substitute key sex related issues for bread.

[mfbukowski]

Sphia Loren calms you down?

Let me put it this way.

She helps me forget my problems.

[mfbukowski]

Because they serve the same function as gladiators did for the Roman Empire, to keep the masses distracted so they didn't notice their poverty.

That's because Hollywood is controlled by nasty greedy Republicans.

[mfbukowski]

Wow...you just truly dated yourself.....

Hey at our age, dating anyone is a miracle.

[mfbukowski]

Bread and circuses.

Roman leaders generally understood that if you could keep the poor fed and entertained they'll give you all the power you need to be as corrupt as you want.

Yeah! So let's blame the government for their corruption...... wait a minute...