Zakuska Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 I think it is a matter of control and our obedience to it. Notice the other thread is on Ann Romney's clothing, also a form of this.I think its a matter of folk culture.
maxrep12 Posted September 3, 2012 Author Posted September 3, 2012 Just confirmed. Approved vendors at BYU games, events, etc, will receive a warning first followed by a one year vendor suspension, for selling caffeinated sodas
webbles Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Just confirmed. Approved vendors at BYU games, events, etc, will receive a warning first followed by a one year vendor suspension, for selling caffeinated sodasAny and all caffeinated sodas, or just the more popular ones? I'm asking because of my previous post about how BYU is selling some caffeinated drinks (or at least on 2007).
robuchan Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 I am unfamiliar with the geography and economy that surrounds BYU-Provo having never visited Utah. So, I am not sure if it's an out-of-the-way campus or if it is integrated with the town and surrounding businesses. Me, I went to a university that was a bit removed from the local town, so local businesses were at least a bus ride away.If BYU is close enough for students to frequent local establishments and indeed they provide enough demand for caffeinated drinks in those establishments such that those businesses carry caffeinated drinks, then I'd be suspicious of BYU's motive concerning their beverage offerings.You ought to be suspicious.The student body at BYU is essentially the same % LDS as the student body at UVU. The student population drives a lot of the economy around both campuses. Every establishment carries caffeinated drinks except those on BYU campus. When a group of LDS people go out to lunch or dinner, pay attention to the soda drinks they order. You will find Coke/Diet Coke are at least 50% of the mix.Carrie Jenkins' comments are laughable.
maxrep12 Posted September 3, 2012 Author Posted September 3, 2012 Any and all caffeinated sodas, or just the more popular ones? I'm asking because of my previous post about how BYU is selling some caffeinated drinks (or at least on 2007).They can serve bulk punch, water, or caffeine free coca-cola products.
MorningStar Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Utah is the only place I can find caffeine free Dr. Pepper and other sodas. That is because the demand is high. If the demand is high for caffeine free pop in Utah, then that might mean that .......
MorningStar Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Why can't I find non-light lemonade at McDonald's? I know. It's because they're trying to control me!
Scott Lloyd Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Just confirmed. Approved vendors at BYU games, events, etc, will receive a warning first followed by a one year vendor suspension, for selling caffeinated sodasConfirmed how? (Citation? Link?)
webbles Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 They can serve bulk punch, water, or caffeine free coca-cola products.So they can't even serve Pepsi products?
Deborah Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 So BYU has chosen not to serve caffeine drinks on campus. Maybe they don't want a bunch of hyped-up students. In any case what's the big fat deal?
Calm Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 So they can't even serve Pepsi products?That is not unusual, is it? Generally there is a contract for one or the other company in most places I've been...though I avoid stadiums for the most part so wouldn't know about them.
The Grimace Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 So BYU has chosen not to serve caffeine drinks on campus. Maybe they don't want a bunch of hyped-up students. In any case what's the big fat deal?Who gets hyped up on cola?
Judd Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 (edited) There are more important questions in life, such as:Why does McDonald's cave to social pressures to appease people who wouldn't eat there anyway? They've ruined the fries, the portion sizes, and are tossing out the fries in my kids' Happy Meals for apples. Why are they making candy bars with < x amount of calories, when all they're doing is making smaller portions, giving you less, and charging you more all while getting everyone excited and putting a big spin on it being 'healthy' when in reality it's only the consumer who's getting screwed. Why 6 years ago did Burger King unveil the "frypod" as a circular container that could fit in a cup holder? All this was was a gimmick to create a container that gave you 20% less product for the same price with some spin to serve as a distraction. Why did McDonald's originally have small, medium, large and super size fries when they introduced the dollar fry that was in between small and medium, only then to transition into getting rid of the medium fry and giving you the dollar fry in your combo, then eventually taking the dollar fry off the dollar menu, renaming it the "medium fry" and putting the small fry on the dollar menu?As demonstrated, there are much more important questions in life regarding food and beverages. I couldn't care less about BYU conspiring with secret combinations to control 20 year old students for some kind of strange gain. I'd pop a Xanax if it really ruffles your feathers that much. Edited September 3, 2012 by Judd 2
sunstoned Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 So she should have said;"Some students and parents prefer that no member of the student body have the ability to purchase any caffeinated beverage on campus, though these beverages would likely be popular if made available"This would have been honest, yes?This would be much more honest.
Stargazer Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 This is something strange to be cynical and obsessive over. I suspect the food service people at Brigham Young University have better things to do than hide a secret policy to deny co-eds caffeine.You would be better off to find out why there are no books on evolution in the BYU library.What? There aren't any? That would surprise me, if true.
Bernard Gui Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Grasping at straws are we(in an attempt to build the strawman)? In your absurd analogy to the offering of colas, you mention items that are under age restriction or are illegal. Of course, all your examples are in violation of the WoW to boot Nothing shows the strength of your position like this sort of nonsense.There's nothing like absurdity to illustrate absurdity.
Bernard Gui Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 (edited) BYU should be forced to offer decaf coffee and tea. It's all about control. Edited September 3, 2012 by Bernard Gui
robuchan Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 BYU should be forced to offer decaf coffee and tea.It's all about control.??No one is complaining that BYU does not offer porn, alcohol, cigarettes, even caffeine. The issue is lying. This is a big issue for a lot of critics of the church. I don't know why BYU's PR said what it did, but it's obviously not true. Are there more important issues in the world? Of course. But is it worth noting that BYU made a press release statement that is an obvious lie? Sure. 1
Deborah Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Who gets hyped up on cola?Have you ever drank a lot of cola before bed and tried to sleep?
Deborah Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 I don't know why BYU's PR said what it did, but it's obviously not true.How is it obviously not true. She stated it was a decision of people in charge of the food, not the church. Why is that a lie? CFR. 1
urroner Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Have you ever drank a lot of cola before bed and tried to sleep?With my ADHD, it helps occasionally to drink a caffeinated drink to help me go to sleep, but, as you all know, I'm special. 1
urroner Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 There's nothing like absurdity to illustrate absurdity.Reductio ad absurdum 1
Deborah Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 With my ADHD, it helps occasionally to drink a caffeinated drink to help me go to sleep, but, as you all know, I'm special.That's why there is no one rule fits all with the WOW.
Sleeper Cell Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Then Carri should have stated with clarity;"Some students and parents prefer that no member of the student body have the ability to purchase any caffeinated beverage on campus, though these beverages would likely be popular if made available"Carri, possibly at the request of those higher up the food chain, chose to mislead.Her statement was not honest and clear, but an attempt to shift burden towards a ficticious student body who simply would not be interested in purchasing the product.Does it get tiresome excusing bad behaviour?Would you be OK with:“Some students and parents, while not objecting to students’ use of caffeinated beverages on campus, prefer that BYU not facilitate their use”Or even:“BYU does not object to students’ use of caffeinated beverages on campus, but does not want to encourage or facilitate their use.” 1
Tacenda Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Would you be OK with:“Some students and parents, while not objecting to students’ use of caffeinated beverages on campus, prefer that BYU not facilitate their use”Or even:“BYU does not object to students’ use of caffeinated beverages on campus, but does not want to encourage or facilitate their use.”I like the bolded one.
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