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Missionaries' "Nope" Response to Lesbian Doormat - An Afterthought


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Also, Arthur "Killer" Kane, formerly of the rock band The New York Dolls, converted.

You can watch a pretty cool show about it here for free: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.0aad7a04-d1fe-b3e3-871e-7202d9fb1c7b/ref=atv_pr_sw_sc?tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_fdv-20&autoplay=1

The closing credits featured this cover of A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief

 

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Being a lesbian is the moral equivalent of being a chronic criminal who espouses violence towards women and humanity in general?

I am sure lesbians are flattered by this comparison.

 

No matter how many times it is pointed out that posters here keep doing this kind of comparison they just can't stop. It is like an addiction or something.

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Woow really? The missionaries walked away because they didn't wanna talk to a lesbisn couple? That is so wrong. 

I don't get why gay people get so bashed by everyone. It's kinda sad to read stories like this. A lot of homofobia. 

I find that this needs to stop. For me being also gay i find it really offensive. This behavoir needs to stop. In the church, outside of the church. Just everywhere. We are living in anno 2023. One should think that we are wiser now. 

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59 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

Woow really? The missionaries walked away because they didn't wanna talk to a lesbisn couple? That is so wrong. 

I don't get why gay people get so bashed by everyone. It's kinda sad to read stories like this. A lot of homofobia. 

I find that this needs to stop. For me being also gay i find it really offensive. This behavoir needs to stop. In the church, outside of the church. Just everywhere. We are living in anno 2023. One should think that we are wiser now. 

I think they walked away because they assumed the lesbians wouldn’t be interested in their gospel message since they couldn’t stay living together and accept it.

 

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22 minutes ago, bluebell said:

I think that the lesbians are being compared to someone else who looks, from the outside, like they wouldn’t be interested in the gospel message.

And Smac seems to be implying that not sharing the gospel because you think the person won’t be interested isn’t right.

No one is comparing them personally or morally to the rapper. 

Nah, I don’t buy it. There are lots of people who OBVIOUSLY wouldn’t be interested in the gospel (a Catholic priest, an Orthodox rabbi, a published atheist, a wine tasting expert, etc) but smac goes for the criminal comparison. It is a pattern.

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25 minutes ago, bluebell said:

It’s also a pattern for you to assume the worst about Smac’s motives on this topic. In this instance, I think it’s a stretch too far.

But we could ask Smac how he heard about the rapper joining the church and then compare whether or not someone on the list you’ve mentioned has joined the church publicly and should/would have been equally on his radar today. 

Smac spent way too many words quoting the details of the rapper’s criminal history and the dirty words in his songs for me to believe the comparison was just about how unlikely it was they would accept the gospel. That is part of it but it is also clearly about the severe magnitude of their depravity.

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3 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Nah, I don’t buy it. There are lots of people who OBVIOUSLY wouldn’t be interested in the gospel (a Catholic priest, an Orthodox rabbi, a published atheist, a wine tasting expert, etc) but smac goes for the criminal comparison. It is a pattern.

 The only pattern here is your incessant provocateur routine.   You essentially never have anything thoughtful or substantive to contribute.  Just glib insults, cheapshots, and attempts to provoke and offend.   

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8 hours ago, bluebell said:

I think they walked away because they assumed the lesbians wouldn’t be interested in their gospel message since they couldn’t stay living together and accept it.

 

Wich is also not okay in my opinion. But they should give it a change anyway because that is what mormonisme is al about right. ✝️

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10 hours ago, smac97 said:

 I have for many years now had a bookmark that is set up to search Google News for news items referencing the church. The story about the rapper came up today. That the only thing the rapper and the lesbian couple had in common, namely, a perception by Latter-day Saints that some folks may not appear likely to be  interested in the missionary message, and that we need to get past making such presumptions.

I figured as much. It’s a reasonable comparison to make under those circumstances. 

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11 hours ago, smac97 said:

 I have for many years now had a bookmark that is set up to search Google News for news items referencing the church. The story about the rapper came up today. That the only thing the rapper and the lesbian couple had in common, namely, a perception by Latter-day Saints that some folks may not appear likely to be  interested in the missionary message, and that we need to get past making such presumptions.

Thanks,

-Smac

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Yeah yeah... being gay or lesbian is not easy like you guys can see so clearly in this topic.

We receive a lot of judgements, hate, homofoobie, and sometimes even racisme. People treat you diffirend. And unfortunatly in the church they expect from you that you mary a woman or otherwise have no relationship or sex at all.

This is a problem that you find everywhere. 

When i whas a teenager i lived in a small city in the Netherlands. Alkmaar (not that the name of that city really matters anyway because nobody knows it) But anyway.... i lived there as a teenager and offcourse went to high school in the same hometown. I whas getting bullied so badly at that school. It never had told anyone that i whas gay but they just knew it. They just saw it on me. The way how i looked, how i talked, how i walked, etc. Those where soms horible 4 years i have spend on that school. They have said horible things to me. They have done prity nasty things to me as well. A lot of threats also, a girl there on that school once told me and other classmates that she whas going to stab me. 🔪 With a knife.

This all happends in the Netherlands guys. The Netherlands have such a good reputation about gay people and lesbian people. Everyone seems to think that. Well....think again. The Netherlands is not so gay friendly as people seems to think. If 2 males will walk hand in hand there on the street they will not be save. 

I know this. I have experienced it myself. On my highschool mainly. Every day. I always deny that i whas gay though. And good that i did. But it didn't helpt at all though. They where comming after me. Every day. And they really seem to felt pleasure in doing what they where doing. 

I have never understood why such a large group of people can hate gay people so much. Like on my school. And i still don't understand it. 

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22 hours ago, The Nehor said:

It is a combination of fear and disgust. I am sorry you went through that.

*big hug*

Thank you man. And you are right. Normal (straight) people are sometimes disgusted by gay people. 

When i whas in high school there where many moments i really hated my life. 

Thanks for the hugs. 🫂

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