MiserereNobis Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, mfbukowski said: Sounds good to me! But remember "fasting" for you is not "fasting" for us If we fasted for 40 days by our definition, Utah would look like an LA homeless camp with people falling down in the streets. Yeah... and you guys fast on the wrong day, too. Sundays are celebrations! Fast on Friday in remembrance of Christ's crucifixion I follow the traditional abstinence (no meat) and fasting rules. No meat on any Friday or Ash Wednesday (well, I hardly eat meat anyways...). No meat on any day during Lent and fasting (1 meal + 2 smalls meals that together are less than 1 meal and no snacking). 3
MustardSeed Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: I don’t think you get the whole Ahab thing. I absolutely get it, I understand defense mechanisms well enough to know exactly what’s happening, and to know that it’s really not fair to him to try to reason. I have now hidden Ahab so there will be no further attempts to communicate. It’s pointless frustration. Edited February 27, 2020 by MustardSeed 1
The Nehor Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 32 minutes ago, mfbukowski said: Yes I can understand that too. This is kind of an alternative to video games for me but I consider it possibly valuable to someone and therefore a "better" choice. Kind of like coconut oil is "healthy" but only really compared to something worse, like real butter. As far as a theory, I asd myself, does the word "spectrum" seems to fit somewhere in that context ? No typos, if you catch my drift. 😎 1
The Nehor Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, mfbukowski said: Sounds good to me! But remember "fasting" for you is not "fasting" for us If we fasted for 40 days by our definition, Utah would look like an LA homeless camp with people falling down in the streets. Okay, but what would be different?
The Nehor Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, MustardSeed said: I absolutely get it, I understand defense mechanisms well enough to know exactly what’s happening, and to know that it’s really not fair to him to try to reason. I have now hidden Ahab so there will be no further attempts to communicate. It’s pointless frustration. Recommend a paradigm shift to: Quote It’s pointless fun.
MustardSeed Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, The Nehor said: Recommend a paradigm shift to:
Ahab Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ahab said: Wait until you hear where the ashes are supposed to come from. I suppose I should maybe have added the word "symbolically" or something like that. Or in other words, wait until you hear where 'what the ashes represent' are supposed/thought to come from. https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/where-do-ash-wednesday-ashes-come-from-94988 From us and our sins which Jesus Christ took accountability for as our Savior, is how I would explain it. The ashes represent something more than only the ashes of Palm tree branches. Father Randy Stice, associate director for the Secretariat of Divine Worship for the U.S. Bishops’ Conference, told CNA that the ashes made from palms remind us of what Lent is all about. Edited February 27, 2020 by Ahab
Teancum Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 21 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: Um, beer or wine with any amount of alcohol are not OK to drink, mission rules or not. Both are allowed under a literal read of Section 89.
Teancum Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 15 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said: Is that what they call "near beer"? I've never seen it, but somebody told me about it when I was a kid. When I lived in Israel, one of my hosts gave me a non-alcoholic beer. It tasted pretty good. At Mexican stores, you can purchase a non-alcoholic Caribbean malta (try Goya brand). Get a six-pack. Very healthy stuff. Will get you side glances from your ministers or your bishop. That is what Mormons call it. Everyone else calls in non-alcoholic beer which it practically is. 1
mfbukowski Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, MiserereNobis said: Yeah... and you guys fast on the wrong day, too. Sundays are celebrations! Fast on Friday in remembrance of Christ's crucifixion I follow the traditional abstinence (no meat) and fasting rules. No meat on any Friday or Ash Wednesday (well, I hardly eat meat anyways...). No meat on any day during Lent and fasting (1 meal + 2 smalls meals that together are less than 1 meal and no snacking). And so vegetarians win yet again 1
mfbukowski Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ahab said: ...but I suggest you run everything by the Spirit so that you will be getting your guidance directly from God rather than from some men who are sharing their perspectives, however they got them So I guess that includes your advice too, right? The spirit tells me you're wrong. So now where do we stand? Edited February 27, 2020 by mfbukowski 1
Ahab Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, mfbukowski said: And so vegetarians win yet again Veggies and fruit with hummus. Umm. Food of the gods!
Ahab Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, mfbukowski said: So I guess that includes your advice too, right? Of course. And yours too. Should always go without saying... except when people ask us what they should think. Edited February 27, 2020 by Ahab
mfbukowski Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 Just now, Ahab said: Veggies and fruit with hummus. Umm. Food of the gods! Well I can't argue that one!
Ahab Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, mfbukowski said: So I guess that includes your advice too, right? The spirit tells me you're wrong. So now where do we stand? Hold on a minute. I'll ask the Spirit to tell me what he thinks.
Teancum Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Ahab said: In another thread, perhaps. One that deals more with the Word of Wisdom. This one is about Lent and you seemed to think I was throwing a bomb when I said what I said so maybe we need to throw this bomb into another thread now. About the Word of Wisdom. Again. Hey just drink in moderation and wine or beer you want. It is not against the WoW. And numerous church leaders drank up till Heber J Grant decided to make an issue out of this on the temple recommend question.
Ahab Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Teancum said: Hey just drink in moderation and wine or beer you want. It is not against the WoW. And numerous church leaders drank up till Heber J Grant decided to make an issue out of this on the temple recommend question. Tempting but my wife would object and you know what they say: Happy wife. Happy life. Especially when they don't want us to do anything that is bad.
Teancum Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ahab said: Tempting but my wife would object and you know what they say: Happy wife. Happy life. Especially when they don't want us to do anything that is bad. Yes happy wife happy life. And while I do not drink beer or wine I don't think in moderation it is bad. That honestly is a man made construct.
mfbukowski Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Teancum said: Yes happy wife happy life. And while I do not drink beer or wine I don't think in moderation it is bad. That honestly is a man made construct. What's the difference in how you know?
Ahab Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Teancum said: Yes happy wife happy life. And while I do not drink beer or wine I don't think in moderation it is bad. That honestly is a man made construct. Whether made by man or woman, yes, all constructs we accept are made by either man or woman, or both combined. Interesting how we use the word man to refer to woman, too, sometimes, I think. As if we're all the same kind of being. Which is interesting, too, I think.
mfbukowski Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ahab said: Veggies and fruit with hummus. Umm. Food of the gods! What fruit goes with hummus?
Teancum Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, mfbukowski said: What's the difference in how you know? I know things.😋
Ahab Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mfbukowski said: What fruit goes with hummus? Fresh pears and apples, sliced. And grapes. Probably more I'm not thinking of now. Not all things have to be dipped into the hummus. I like swiping some bread, like pita or naan, in the hummus and then eating several things soon after that while the taste of hummus is still in my mouth. Edited February 28, 2020 by Ahab 1
bluebell Posted February 28, 2020 Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Stargazer said: I suppose. Maybe. But as somebody in this thread has pointed out, Jesus was extremely rude to the scribes and pharisees (called them names,: hypocrites; whited sepulchres; and so on), but since he was without sin, being rude was obviously not sinful. Going off of the definition of rude, I don’t think Jesus ever was actually rude, which generally means inconsiderate. 1
Ahab Posted February 28, 2020 Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, bluebell said: Going off of the definition of rude, I don’t think Jesus ever was actually rude, which generally means inconsiderate. Actually, when someone thinks someone else is being rude it is because they are not saying nice things about them. I'm sure some people who Jesus called hypocrites and whited sepulchres thought he was being rude when he said those things, not very nice. And he said some other not-so-nice things to some people, too. I'm sure their feelings got hurt and it may have even made them feel a little upset.
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