No priesthood session April

[Bernard Gui]

1 minute ago, Tacenda said:

These questions etc. are making me wonder why the 8 year olds aren't invited as well, since the 8 year old girls are now going with their moms to the women's meeting. Boy it's getting younger and younger these days, but children are more mature nowadays too.

Yes, that too. I think kids are being exposed to more “adult” information at an earlier age, but I’m not sure that makes them more mature. It might be messing them up.

 

[pogi]

10 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said:

Are we in the same ward? We have one of those, too.

That would be funny, but no.  My friend has been inactive for years now. 

Once they start quoting Bob Marley in church and reference him as "the great prophet", it is all down hill from there...

[Calm]

10 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

children are more mature nowadays too.

In some ways, not so much in others (fewer seem to be taking on jobs as teens, for example, where I live).

[alter idem]

On 11/22/2019 at 3:32 PM, Scott Lloyd said:

Is it not broadcasted or carried on the internet where you live? 

Yes, I don't see why it won't be televised just as the Priesthood and General women's sessions are televised.

[alter idem]

8 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

Kids under the age of 11 will have to leave the room, no?

I think this session is likely not to appeal to Primary age children, that's probably why they suggested 11 years and older.  Maybe you could give them something to do while you are watching.  Quiet play activities like coloring, drawing, puzzles etc.

[Calm]

8 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

Kids under the age of 11 will have to leave the room, no?

There is a difference between not being invited and being excluded.

Do you watch Priesthood session at home?  If you do, would you ask your wife to leave if she was interested in watching?

Since anyone can read talks from any session of conference, I think limiting attendance at the conference center or other meeting places is more about creating a certain group dynamic among those invited rather than limiting exposure of those not invited. 

Edited November 25, 2019 by Calm

[Tacenda]

1 hour ago, Bernard Gui said:

Yes, that too. I think kids are being exposed to more “adult” information at an earlier age, but I’m not sure that makes them more mature. It might be messing them up.

 

I see it almost daily in the elementary schools I guess, the maturity or street smartness. Like I mentioned, the recent women's conference had 8 year olds. But I'm not in total agreement, but could be presuaded to be more in favor.

Edited November 25, 2019 by Tacenda

[cherryTreez]

9 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said:

Why would you have to be alone with them? Why would anybody, including your husband, have to leave the house? 

Because my husband feels that he has to go to the stake center and be there for the youth. He is in the young men's and feels like he needs to set a good example for the boys and our son.  

[Bernard Gui]

55 minutes ago, Calm said:

There is a difference between not being invited and being excluded.

Do you watch Priesthood session at home?  If you do, would you ask your wife to leave if she was interested in watching?

Since anyone can read talks from any session of conference, I think limiting attendance at the conference center or other meeting places is more about creating a certain group dynamic among those invited rather than limiting exposure of those not invited. 

I have always attended Priesthood Session at a Church building. I love the group dynamic and the intense sense of satisfaction of belonging to an international and eternal brotherhood. I went several decades without ever missing one. 

In my youth, we had to drive 100 miles to our stake center in Albuquerque and then to our small chapel for a scratchy telephone line feed. The reward was the late-night green chile burgers at Lotaburger in Santa Fe on the way back home. I remember riding in the car with friends and leaders and watching the stars in the clear desert sky as we drove late at night.

In October, 1964, my freshman year, I went alone to a live tv broadcast at the BYU Smith Fieldhouse. I was overwhelmed at the sight of thousands of men and boys in the building. I was used to 30 or 40. I sat high up in the bleachers. There was a huge screen over the basketball floor on which the SLC event was projected. When President McKay entered the Tabernacle everyone in the Fieldhouse stood and began singing “We Thank Thee O God for a Prophet.” It was a powerful moment, but as the song progressed, it got softer and softer. I looked around me and saw that my brothers were being overcome by the Spirit and were unable to to sing. The real power was in the silence, not the noise. For the first time in my life I knew there is a true prophet of God on earth.

Since that day, I have had several similar experiences in GCPS that have cemented my testimony. I continue the tradition of following the session with a delicious burger, with family and/or friends. I’m sad that it only happens once a year now. 

That said, I don’t get the logic of limiting attendance to 11 and older in this new world of isolating ourselves in our homes. Sure, it is more convenient, but something has been lost in return. If I were at home, I wouldn’t ask Sister Gui to leave, but I doubt she would feel the need to watch, just as I would not feel a need to sit in with her and the Gui ladies if they were watching the Women Session. We’re kinda funny about that. But the Good Ship Zion moves on as we troglodytes fade into the past.

Edited November 25, 2019 by Bernard Gui

[Bernard Gui]

15 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

I see it almost daily in the elementary schools I guess, the maturity or street smartness. Like I mentioned, the recent women's conference had 8 year olds. But I'm not in total agreement, but could be presuaded to be more in favor.

Yes. Many of Sister Gui’s kindergartners are really messed up with too much information. Her class is not unique.  It’s shocking and sad. 

Edited November 25, 2019 by Bernard Gui

[Tacenda]

2 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said:

I have always attended Priesthood Session at a Church building. I love the group dynamic and the intense sense of satisfaction of belonging to an international and eternal brotherhood. I went several decades without ever missing one. 

In my youth, we had to drive 100 miles to our stake center in Albuquerque and then to our small chapel for a scratchy telephone line feed. The reward was the late-night green chile burgers at Lotaburger in Santa Fe on the way back home. I remember sitting in the car with friends and leaders and watching the stars in the clear desert sky.

In October, 1964, my freshman year, I went alone to a live tv broadcast at the BYU Smith Fieldhouse. I was overwhelmed at the sight of thousands of men and boys in the building. I was used to 30 or 40. I sat high up in the bleachers. There was a huge screen over the basketball floor on which the SLC event was projected. When President McKay entered the Tabernacle everyone in the Fieldhouse stood and began singing “We Thank Thee O God for a Prophet.” It was a powerful moment, but as the song progressed, it got softer and softer. I looked around me and saw that my brothers were being overcome by the Spirit and were unable to to sing. The real power was in the silence, not the noise. For the first time in my life I knew there is a true prophet of God on earth.

Since that day, I have had several similar experiences in GCPS that have cemented my testimony. I continue the tradition of following the session with a delicious burger, with family and/or friends. I’m sad that it only happens once a year now. 

That said, I don’t get the logic of limiting attendance to 11 and older in this new world of isolating ourselves in our homes. Sure, it is more convenient, but something has been lost in return. If I were at home, I wouldn’t ask Sister Gui to leave, but I doubt she would feel the need to watch, just as I would not feel a need to  
sit in with her and the Gui ladies if they were watching the Women Session. We’re kinda funny about that. But the Good Ship Zion moves on as we troglodytes fade into the past.

Good times! My husband had special PH sessions with his nephews, sons, brothers and dad. His mom would have pies waiting and they would get together for card games etc. after with my MIL/FIL's six sons and their sons! 

[bluebell]

9 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

Kids under the age of 11 will have to leave the room, no?

Mine won't have to leave the room but they probably aren't going to want to be there.  They'll probably choose to play instead.  

[bluebell]

2 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

The meeting is for 11 and older, no?

If you attend at the stake center or the Conference Center you need a babysitter because you leave the kids at home, but if you stay at home and view it on the tube, the kids can be there? Why make the distinction?

Just trying to figure out the logic and the logistics.

The distinction is probably more about who the meeting is geared towards than who can't be present for it.  The Priesthood and Women's sessions designate who is invited, but that doesn't mean that I have to leave the room while it's on at our house (or that he has to leave the room for the women's session).

[Bernard Gui]

50 minutes ago, bluebell said:

The distinction is probably more about who the meeting is geared towards than who can't be present for it.  The Priesthood and Women's sessions designate who is invited, but that doesn't mean that I have to leave the room while it's on at our house (or that he has to leave the room for the women's session).

Probably. 

[Bernard Gui]

57 minutes ago, bluebell said:

Mine won't have to leave the room but they probably aren't going to want to be there.  They'll probably choose to play instead.  

I guess emojis are a necessity nowadays.
 

How would that be different without the age-based invitation?

Edited November 25, 2019 by Bernard Gui

[bluebell]

2 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said:

How would that be different without the age-based invitation?

I would require them to be there if they were a part of the age group that was invited.  That's what would be different.  

[Bernard Gui]

3 minutes ago, bluebell said:

I would require them to be there if they were a part of the age group that was invited.  That's what would be different.  

Will that make them want to be there?

 

[bluebell]

Just now, Bernard Gui said:

Will that make them want to be there?

 

I don't know.  Being invited to a church meeting doesn't always make me want to be there, but I usually go anyway because that's what God wants.   My kids are usually good at handling such things the same way.

[Calm]

1 hour ago, Bernard Gui said:

That said, I don’t get the logic of limiting attendance to 11 and older in this new world of isolating ourselves in our homes

I don’t get that impression they are limiting attendance in the homes.  In church buildings, sure, because we understand that age invitations to other places besides our home are limitations on what ages should be there.  It is a generic invitation to cover who they want to watch. 

I just don’t believe that many hear the invitations as saying who shouldn’t be watching it at home.  Surely everyone realizes the dynamics of watching at home are significantly different than watching at church.  It seems unnecessary cluttered speech to me for them to say ‘if attending at a church building, we invite those 11 and older to attend, but if watching at home any age is acceptable’.

And no one is required to stay at home as far as I am aware, ward buildings still have the sessions, do they not?

Edited November 25, 2019 by Calm

[Bernard Gui]

8 minutes ago, Calm said:

I don’t get that impression they are limiting attendance in the homes.  In church buildings, sure, because we understand that age invitations to other places besides our home are limitations on what ages should be there.  It is a generic invitation to cover who they want to watch. 

I just don’t believe that many hear the invitations as saying who shouldn’t be watching it at home.  Surely everyone realizes the dynamics of watching at home are significantly different than watching at church.  It seems unnecessary cluttered speech to me for them to say ‘if attending at a church building, we invite those 11 and older to attend, but if watching at home any age is acceptable’.

And no one is required to stay at home as far as I am aware, ward buildings still have the sessions, do they not?

Cool. It comes down to uncluttered speech, then. It makes no sense to me, but who am I?

Edited November 25, 2019 by Bernard Gui

[Bernard Gui]

34 minutes ago, bluebell said:

I don't know.  Being invited to a church meeting doesn't always make me want to be there, but I usually go anyway because that's what God wants.   My kids are usually good at handling such things the same way.

Yep. Been there, done that with 7 kids and 18 grandkids. 

Edited November 25, 2019 by Bernard Gui

[Scott Lloyd]

1 hour ago, cherryTreez said:

Because my husband feels that he has to go to the stake center and be there for the youth. He is in the young men's and feels like he needs to set a good example for the boys and our son.  

I can understand that. 
 

But it’s a choice he is making. I don’t know that he should feel obliged to do so or that there is any authoritative requirement to that effect in the Church. 
 

And if you really do feel you would be precluded from enjoying the session at home because of interruptions from the children and what not, I should think this would be an instance when making an exception to the routine would be justifiable. 
 

Generally speaking, I just don’t see the need for babysitters to be a viable complaint for which a suitable work-around could not be devised. 

[Scott Lloyd]

3 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

The meeting is for 11 and older, no?

If you attend at the stake center or the Conference Center you need a babysitter because you leave the kids at home, but if you stay at home and view it on the tube, the kids can be there? Why make the distinction?

Just trying to figure out the logic and the logistics.

The requirement is that children of a certain age not be brought to the Conference Center (or other public gathering place) for the meeting, not that they be forbidden from watching the transmission at home. 
 

Is this a trick question?

Compare it to the Tabernacle Choir concerts that are staged in the Conference Center. Children below a certain age are not admitted to prevent there being disruptions during the live performance. However, anyone, regardless of age, is free to watch the broadcasts or internet streaming at home. 

[Calm]

Since most probably can record the session, if one parent goes to church with the older children, perhaps it would be best to wait to watch after that parent gets home or kids have gone to bed?

Not as enjoyable for many to watch in their own, I understand, though my retention goes way up when I do as I can focus much better. 

[Bernard Gui]

29 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said:

The requirement is that children of a certain age not be brought to the Conference Center (or other public gathering place) for the meeting, not that they be forbidden from watching the transmission at home. 
 

Is this a trick question?

Compare it to the Tabernacle Choir concerts that are staged in the Conference Center. Children below a certain age are not admitted to prevent there being disruptions during the live performance. However, anyone, regardless of age, is free to watch the broadcasts or internet streaming at home. 

Ah. Just for the Conference Center. Not a trick question, just confused why that would be. I must have misunderstood this.....

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Spring 2020 marks 200 years since the commencement of the ongoing Restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ. The First Presidency announced today that the April 2020 general conference will be unique, as the Saturday evening session will be for all Latter-day Saints ages 11+.

Today President Nelson and his counselors in the First Presidency announced that the April 2020 general conference will be unique in another way: The Saturday evening session will be for all Latter-day Saints ages 11 and up. Rather than having the Priesthood session or the General Women’s Session, the Saturday evening session will be held for all members of the Young Women and Relief Society, and all holders of the Aaronic Priesthood and the Melchizedek Priesthood, the First Presidency says in a letter. “We look forward to commemorating with members of the Church the 200th anniversary of the Restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ at this historic conference and throughout the year 2020.”

 

Edited November 25, 2019 by Bernard Gui