Bill “Papa” Lee Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 President Nelson can be described in many ways... Incredibly well educated World renown Doctor / Scientist Healer Educator Oldest President when taking office (I believe) Humble servant What am I missing? Link to comment
Duncan Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 convert! I think Pres. Joseph Fielding Smith was older, not by much! 1 Link to comment
Bobbieaware Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Bill "Papa" Lee said: President Nelson can be described in many ways... Incredibly well educated World renown Doctor / Scientist Healer Educator Oldest President when taking office (I believe) Humble servant What am I missing? A little known bit of contemporary Church trivia is that the younger members of the Quorum of the Twelve have taken to affectionately referring to Elder Russell as “The Ancient of Days.” Cute. Edited January 7, 2018 by Bobbieaware Link to comment
Judd Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Duncan said: convert! I think Pres. Joseph Fielding Smith was older, not by much! You learn something new every day. Baptized at 16. 1 Link to comment
Maureen Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 15 hours ago, Duncan said: convert! I think Pres. Joseph Fielding Smith was older, not by much! It doesn't appear he was a convert in the traditional way. His parents were members, sealed in the temple. They may have been inactive, but how does that make Russell M. Nelson a convert? https://www.deseretnews.com/article/134716/DEATH--MARION-C-NELSON.html M. Link to comment
Duncan Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, Maureen said: It doesn't appear he was a convert in the traditional way. His parents were members, sealed in the temple. They may have been inactive, but how does that make Russell M. Nelson a convert? https://www.deseretnews.com/article/134716/DEATH--MARION-C-NELSON.html M. he joined when he was 16, his parents were sealed later on in life, IIRC. But he didn't join at age 8. But you're right he isn't a convert in the traditional sense of missionaries teaching them Link to comment
Stargazer Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, Duncan said: he joined when he was 16, his parents were sealed later on in life, IIRC. But he didn't join at age 8. But you're right he isn't a convert in the traditional sense of missionaries teaching them I don't think it worked this way back when he was young, but these days if a child of record gets baptized after hitting 9 he or she is counted as a convert. And usually get taught by the missionaries, if I understand this correctly. 3 Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stargazer said: I don't think it worked this way back when he was young, but these days if a child of record gets baptized after hitting 9 he or she is counted as a convert. And usually get taught by the missionaries, if I understand this correctly. You are correct. Anyone aged 9 or over must be taught by the missionaries before being baptised. S/he will also be interviewed by the missionaries, not the bishop. And the mission office will create the membership record, not the ward clerk. In other words, they're converts. Edited January 7, 2018 by Hamba Tuhan 2 Link to comment
JAHS Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) Here just a few specifics related to your list: He was awarded the Distinguished Alumni Award from the University of Utah, the Heart of Gold Award from the American Heart Association, a citation for International Service from the American Heart Association, and the Golden Plate Award from the American Academy of Achievement. He has also been awarded honorary professorships from three universities in the People’s Republic of China. He has served as president of the Society for Vascular Surgery, a director of the American Board of Thoracic Surgery, chairman of the Council on Cardiovascular Surgery for the American Heart Association, and president of the Utah State Medical Association. He is listed in Who’s Who in the World, Who’s Who in America, and Who’s Who in Religion. He worked on a team that made medical history: After three challenging years, they developed the first machine that performed the functions of a patient’s heart and lungs during open-heart surgery. He served a two-year term of medical duty in the U.S. Army during the Korean War. In 1972 he performed heart surgery on Elder Spencer W. Kimball. Following the surgery he received a personal witness that his patient would someday become President of the Church. Edited January 7, 2018 by JAHS 2 Link to comment
Calm Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) Deleted as others said it enough Edited January 8, 2018 by Calm Link to comment
Guest Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 20 hours ago, Duncan said: convert! I think Pres. Joseph Fielding Smith was older, not by much! Did not know he was a convert. Link to comment
Guest Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said: You are correct. Anyone aged 9 or over must be taught by the missionaries before being baptised. S/he will also be interviewed by the missionaries, not the bishop. And the mission office will create the membership record, not the ward clerk. In other words, they're converts. It has been my experience that anyone who remains a member for very long into adulthood, has to become "converted". 1 Link to comment
Duncan Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bill "Papa" Lee said: Did not know he was a convert. When his dad was a young kid and somebody decided to get the kids all baptized without prior warning, it rubbed the dad the wrong way and he jumped off the bus or never got on or something. He wasn't even ordained to the MP until the mid 1970's and later sealed to his wife, but yeah they spent decades inactive. IIRC Pres. Joseph Fielding Smith's son Douglas helped Russell along in the Church, but he wasn't baptized until he was 16 1 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Stargazer said: I don't think it worked this way back when he was young, but these days if a child of record gets baptized after hitting 9 he or she is counted as a convert. And usually get taught by the missionaries, if I understand this correctly. Yeah. Hence why missionaries are always asking for part-member families lists. 1 Link to comment
sjdawg Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) He is also a bit of a germaphobe but I don't blame him. He shakes a lot of hands and with his education he is well aware of potential bugs out there. Edited January 8, 2018 by sjdawg 1 Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Bill "Papa" Lee said: It has been my experience that anyone who remains a member for very long into adulthood, has to become "converted". That too! Link to comment
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