Kenngo1969 Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 Wow. Has there ever been a conference where three apostles were called (not counting 1835)? yep, 1906-Elders George F. Richards, Orson F. Whitney and David O. McKayWow. You're quite the Historical Stallion, aren't you? (Seriously, thanks for the info: Interesting.) 1
Kenngo1969 Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) I will never forget his gentle yet earnest eyes engaging me through the lens of the camera, as if I was his own grandchild sitting in the room with him. He will be missed by meOn more than a few occasions as I listened to him speak, I'd say in my heart, "I'm sorry, Elder Scott. I'll try hard to do better, I promise!" P.S.: Condolences to family, friends, and associates. Edited September 22, 2015 by Kenngo1969 2
mapman Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 He came and talked to us when I was in the MTC. This was soon after the age change for missionaries was made and so he told us how happy he was to see so many sister missionaries there. I'll always remember how much he taught me about recognizing answers to my prayers. He will be missed.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 FYI, here is my story. http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865637344/Engineer-forsook-career-for-full-time-service-to-God-and-His-Church.htmlI'll add to it tomorrow after interviewing his son. 2
halconero Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 exactly..... Well at least he's finally back with Jeanene. I'm sure he's pretty dang happy right about now. That talk about the little hole punch papers was one of my favourite. 1
Stargazer Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 It's nice to follow @LDSChurch on Twitter and get these messages immediately.
Stargazer Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 FYI, here is my story.http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865637344/Engineer-forsook-career-for-full-time-service-to-God-and-His-Church.htmlI'll add to it tomorrow after interviewing his son. Nice article! Did he serve a Spanish- or Portuguese-speaking mission? Or did he learn these languages outside of a mission?
Robert F. Smith Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 FYI, here is my story.http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865637344/Engineer-forsook-career-for-full-time-service-to-God-and-His-Church.htmlI'll add to it tomorrow after interviewing his son.Beautifully done, Scott. Brought a tear to my eye.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Nice article! Did he serve a Spanish- or Portuguese-speaking mission? Or did he learn these languages outside of a mission?He served his mission in Uruguay and was a mission president in Argentina. So that accounts for the Spanish. I can only assume he picked up Portuguese along the way in the course of his ministry due in part to its similarity to Spanish.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) I'll share a personal story about Elder Scott. Many years ago, perhaps back in the '80s when I hadn't been working too long at the Church News, I found myself in the intimidating position of interviewing all at the same time Elders James E. Faust, Boyd K. Packer and Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum of the Twelve, and Elder Richard G. Scott, then a member of the Presidency of the Seventy. The story had to do with a new initiative in the work of family history. Elder Scott, serving as my liaison with the other Brethren, saw to it that each had opportunity to see an advance copy of my story. In his humility, he also gave clear instruction to me that he was not to be quoted in the article, that the spotlight was to be on the other three Brethren. I followed the instructions. Some days later, I received a phone call from Elder Oaks saying the article was fine except that I needed to include some quotes from Elder Scott. I replied that Elder Scott had instructed me not to. Elder Oaks then said in effect that he outranked Elder Scott, and I was to follow the new directive. I complied, selecting some statements from my notes that Elder Scott had made, but it was too close to deadline to check back with Elder Scott. I proceeded, reasoning that I was apt to get in more trouble by failing to follow Elder Oaks's instruction than Elder Scott's. After the story appeared, I saw Elder Scott in the lobby of the Church Office Building. The subject of his having been quoted came up, and I recounted to him what I had been instructed to do by Elder Oaks. He said with some mild chagrin that he wished he would have known, and he would have provided something for me a bit more quotable than what appeared. P. S. I just found a link to the article I wrote back then. It was in 1988. Here it is. Edited September 23, 2015 by Scott Lloyd 2
VideoGameJunkie Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 I'm impressed that he never remarried after his wife died 20 years ago. 1
Tacenda Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 FYI, here is my story. http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865637344/Engineer-forsook-career-for-full-time-service-to-God-and-His-Church.htmlI'll add to it tomorrow after interviewing his son.Someone posted about his passing on my FB feed, well several have, and out of all the positive replies, was one out of left field... someone said that Elder Scott kicked his son out for being gay or something like that. Maybe you could set the record straight on this. It happened several years ago I believe. Or never happened.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Someone posted about his passing on my FB feed, well several have, and out of all the positive replies, was one out of left field... someone said that Elder Scott kicked his son out for being gay or something like that. Maybe you could set the record straight on this. It happened several years ago I believe. Or never happened.I'm not acquainted with this. It would be very uncharacteristic of him, from what I know of him.
Kenngo1969 Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) He served his mission in Uruguay and was a mission president in Argentina. So that accounts for the Spanish. I can only assume he picked up Portuguese along the way in the course of his ministry due in part to its similarity to Spanish.Spanish and Portuguese are similar? Mmm-kay. I'll have to take your word for that! Edited September 23, 2015 by Kenngo1969
Kenngo1969 Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Someone posted about his passing on my FB feed, well several have, and out of all the positive replies, was one out of left field... someone said that Elder Scott kicked his son out for being gay or something like that. Maybe you could set the record straight on this. It happened several years ago I believe. Or never happened.Some people, I suppose, don't subscribe to that old notion about not believing everything one reads. Pity, that.
Damien the Leper Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 I'm not well familiar with Elder Scott but I'll gladly and humbly mourn the loss of a well respected man.
Buckeye Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 I'm impressed that he never remarried after his wife died 20 years ago. You may appreciate this remembrance: http://bycommonconsent.com/2015/09/22/rest-in-peace-elder-scott/
Buckeye Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) yep, 1906-Elders George F. Richards, Orson F. Whitney and David O. McKay The story behind those callings is a little different from the present situation. Only one of the vacancies filled in 1906 was due to a death. The other two (John W. Taylor and Matthias Cowley) resigned in protest over the second manifesto, which officially ended polygamy.(see https://www.lds.org/topics/the-manifesto-and-the-end-of-plural-marriage?lang=eng)Taylor and Cowley continued to perform plural sealings. In 1911, the church finally took action. Cowley's priesthood was removed; he remained a member and later was reinstated in the priesthood, including as an apostle, but never rejoined the Q12. Taylor was excommunicated. Edited September 23, 2015 by Buckeye 2
jkwilliams Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Someone posted about his passing on my FB feed, well several have, and out of all the positive replies, was one out of left field... someone said that Elder Scott kicked his son out for being gay or something like that. Maybe you could set the record straight on this. It happened several years ago I believe. Or never happened. It seems highly inappropriate for people to be repeating unsubstantiated rumors at someone's passing (not saying you are). I've heard that rumor before, but there's never any source other than "I heard it from someone." That's sad. Let the family grieve and mourn someone who, by all verifiable accounts, was a good man who faithfully served God. 2
TheSkepticChristian Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) KSL is reporting that Elder Scott has died. he died exactly at the same time that Pope Francis arrived to the USA. Perhaps God wants Pope Francis to become the next apostle? Elder Scott died at 1:45 p.m. MDT, about the same time that Pope Francis arrived. Edited September 23, 2015 by TheSkepticChristian
Buckeye Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 he died exactly at the same time that Pope Francis arrived to the USA. Perhaps God wants Pope Francis to become the next apostle? I'm going to take the under on that one. Makes about as much sense as thinking that Scott Walker will be called because he stepped down from the republican primary on the same day. 3
TheSkepticChristian Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) I'm going to take the under on that one. Makes about as much sense as thinking that Scott Walker will be called because he stepped down from the republican primary on the same day. No, God will never call that guy, he is probably a son of perdition I am just joking Edited September 23, 2015 by TheSkepticChristian
BookofMormonLuvr Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) The story behind those callings is a little different from the present situation. Only one of the vacancies filled in 1906 was due to a death. The other two (John W. Taylor and Matthias Cowley) resigned in protest over the second manifesto, which officially ended polygamy.(see https://www.lds.org/topics/the-manifesto-and-the-end-of-plural-marriage?lang=eng)Taylor and Cowley continued to perform plural sealings. In 1911, the church finally took action. Cowley's priesthood was removed; he remained a member and later was reinstated in the priesthood, including as an apostle, but never rejoined the Q12. Taylor was excommunicated. Many (most?) of the polygamous branches of mormonism claim their lines of authority through him.CFR? I was a fundamentalist for a time, I have studied it extensively and I have never heard that. They have respet for the stand he took but do not claim authority through him.Two main sources of authority:1) 1886 meeting where Pres, John Taylor commissioned the Wooley boys to keep the practice alive. (FLDS, AUB, Righteous Branch, etc...)2) Alma Dyer LeBaron claimed to receive authority through an adopted son of Joseph Smith, Benjamin F. Johnson (LeBarons, Independent Fundamentalist types) Edited September 23, 2015 by BookofMormonLuvr 1
Tacenda Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 It seems highly inappropriate for people to be repeating unsubstantiated rumors at someone's passing (not saying you are). I've heard that rumor before, but there's never any source other than "I heard it from someone." That's sad. Let the family grieve and mourn someone who, by all verifiable accounts, was a good man who faithfully served God.I know and felt the need to squelch it right away. This guy acted like he was a friend of his son. I'm sure it didn't go down like that at all and came from his perspective. Like when any of our children don't want to follow the rules of the household and told if they don't then move out. I threatened that once of my daughter and she took off as if I kicked her out...like she left nearly the next day. Very headstrong girl. A couple of tattoos later she moved back in. I have a feeling it was something like that. Just wondering if Scott is interviewing that son or if Elder Scott has other sons.
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