Zakuska Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Theres no choice for me. If the Lord provides another revelation, they very well could.But until that point the answer would be no. So I guess id have to answer dont know.
thesometimesaint Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 I don't know. But lack of Priesthood doesn't mean much to LDS beliefs. IE; You don't need the Priesthood to give non Priesthood blessings. You don't need the Priesthood to be baptized and confirmed a member of the Church. You don't need the Priesthood to teach in Sacrament Meetings, Sunday School, or Relief Society.You don't need the Priesthood to do good works, bear your testimony. Etc., Etc., Etc.. 2
JLHPROF Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) Based purely on the way you worded the poll - "Will the LDS Church ever reverse its policy and decide to ordain women to the priesthood?" I had to vote yes. Public pressure is a powerful thing and perceived gender inequality is unacceptable to today's society. If you had asked "Will God ever give a revelation authorizing women to be ordained to the Priesthood" I would have voted "No" or "Don't Know". Based on my studies I believe priesthood roles are eternally founded, and God cannot violate eternal law. It may not be anytime soon, but I believe it will happen. And if it does, referring to the setting in order when God says "upon my house it will begin and from my house it will go forth", it could easily be one of those things that God would have to set in order/undo before the second coming. Edited June 12, 2014 by JLHPROF
Thunderfire Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Just speaking from my perspective. For this to happen, much of the foundational theology of the church and some temple ceremonies would drastically change. As example: if women were ordained, their will be no need for sealings. For that matter, their would be no reason for a woman to even marry (beside procreation) in order for her to achieve exaltation. In many ways, the identity in purpose for much of the LDS church would change over night. It would literally rip the church apart.
JLHPROF Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 For that matter, their would be no reason for a woman to even marry (beside procreation) in order for her to achieve exaltation. OK, I rarely come down on the feminist side of things, but this is just not worded well.Exaltation has as one of its primary blessings that of eternal increase. Neither man nor woman can achieve exaltation without an eternal partner. A single man can no more be exalted than a single woman. They remain as servants without increase.Man and woman need each other to achieve exaltation it's true, but it is not so she can get his priesthood but so they can have increase/eternal lives.
bluebell Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Just speaking from my perspective. For this to happen, much of the foundational theology of the church and some temple ceremonies would drastically change. As example: if women were ordained, their will be no need for sealings. For that matter, their would be no reason for a woman to even marry (beside procreation) in order for her to achieve exaltation. In many ways, the identity in purpose for much of the LDS church would change over night. It would literally rip the church apart. Why would there be no need for sealings? An ordained man cannot achieve exaltation without his wife and having been a part of the new and everlasting covenant of marriage. Why should we assume that would be different for an ordained woman?
Popular Post halconero Posted June 12, 2014 Popular Post Posted June 12, 2014 The options are too simplistic for me.My short answer would be "they already do, but not in the manner which OW wants." 5
JLHPROF Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 The options are too simplistic for me.My short answer would be "they already do, but not in the manner which OW wants." This. Exactly. 2
BookofMormonLuvr Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Why would there be no need for sealings? An ordained man cannot achieve exaltation without his wife and having been a part of the new and everlasting covenant of marriage. Why should we assume that would be different for an ordained woman?To be fair to Thunderfire he is Community of Christ. I have found, since switching to the RLDS Restorationist Movement, a fundamental lack of good understanding amoung RLDS/CofC of LDS doctrines. I try to correct misinformation whenever I can, and it does keep me busy at times.
Glenn101 Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 My answer is, "I don't know." If it were to come it would be via a revelation, and I would be fine with that. I am agnostic on the issue myself. I really just want what the Lord wants and I really want to know what He wants. So far, it would seem that the status quo is what He wants. But that does not mean that sustained, fervent prayers by the righteous, active members who do desire it will not be heard and heeded. I don't think that any other type of activism, or public pressure will cause God to cave in. Glenn
Senator Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 No Not at least until the 2nd coming and the Lord redeems all the effects of the fall. I believe the presidential relationship of man over woman to be one the effects. In other words I don't believe the current status of things to be eternal. That's my theory at least.....
bluebell Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 To be fair to Thunderfire he is Community of Christ. I have found, since switching to the RLDS Restorationist Movement, a fundamental lack of good understanding amoung RLDS/CofC of LDS doctrines. I try to correct misinformation whenever I can, and it does keep me busy at times. Thanks for the heads up!
Kenngo1969 Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) As the Muslims say, in'shallah. ("God willing.") I believe God when He tells us (especially those of us who tend to condescend to him because He's racist, sexist, homophobic, politically incorrect, or otherwise bigoted), "I am able to do mine own work." The same God who has wrought so many miracles surely is capable of bringing even the most recalcitrant, anti-female-ordination brethren in line, but I believe that if that happens, He will do so "in [His] own time and in [His] own way." I don't think there's a parallel between the extension of Priesthood to all worthy males and the prospect for women's ordination. There was always a contingent of Brethren in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who believed that the Priesthood would be extended to all worthy male members; not so with respect to ordination of our sisters. Even if one believes that the lifting of the ban was simply the ending of a man-made restriction, it does provide a template to the Church of Jesus Christ and its leaders as to how successfully resist sociopolitical change unless and until the Lord wants it to happen. Edited June 13, 2014 by Kenngo1969
Tsuzuki Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Women already have the Priesthood. It's called "witchcraft."
Zakuska Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Women already have the Priesthood. It's called "witchcraft." And here I thought it was the art of seduction.
SeekerB Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) The priesthood is the power of God. Those who are exalted will, by their nature have power. I don't know what those who reach the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom call their power, but priesthood is how it is referred to here. I recall that those who are resurrected to that kingdom are members of the Church of the Firstborn, therefore no longer strictly, LDS. Edited June 13, 2014 by SeekerB
BlueDreams Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 I put I don't know, though I probably lean closer to no. Life's an open book though and I'm not God. So I dunno....I just don't see much evidence for it. With luv,BD
smac97 Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 I didn't vote. I would vote "I don't know, but probably not. While I am certainly open to the idea, I just don't think it's part of the Plan."
JAHS Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Not in this life. However, in the temple women are annointed to become Queens and Priestesses in the next life, which seems to suggest the obtaining of some kind of priesthood power and authority.
halconero Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Not in this life. However, in the temple women are annointed to become Queens and Priestesses in the next life, which seems to suggest the obtaining of some kind of priesthood power and authority.In many cases those blessings are fulfilled in this life. 1
halconero Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Women already have the Priesthood. It's called "witchcraft." I prefer priestesshood, given the Satanic history and connotations associated with witchcraft. 2
JAHS Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 In many cases those blessings are fulfilled in this life.I suppose that could be considered so for those who work in the temple or if they receive the second anointing. But they have not nor ever will be ordained to any priesthood office in this life time IMO.
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