April Mormon Conference May Make History: Women Will Pray

[Deborah]

UMW Meeting, huh?

 

[juliann]

It won't hurt anything to just let them in.   After all is said and done,  it is just rude and disrespectful when it is so obvious they are hostile and not seeking the inspiration that the others they will replace likely are.   Like it or not,  those talks are for the men just like the RS sessions are for the women.   One can debate the genderizing of the gospel endlessly (and we likely will) but that doesn't excuse thoughtlessness.

 

Question....aren't tickets required? 

[Calm]

UMW Meeting, huh?

FairMormon Conference actually, and it was Mark Tuttle....I asked him if I could use his name when mentioning this and he gave permission.

[Calm]

 

 

Question....aren't tickets required? 

Yes, and some men have offered them their tickets...which they should take to use if they get permission so that other men who want to be there don't have to be displaced.  But they refused to take them because they want the invite to come from the officials and not just try to get in with a passed on ticket.

[rpn]

I found it funny the way they described the ticket process.   In my stake, you email the stke pres who refers you to the exec secretary who asks you what tickets you want, and then delivers them to you.   When they run out, they run out. 

 

And the tickets are just to control the crowds, not to keep people out.

[Calm]

I found it funny the way they described the ticket process.   In my stake, you email the stke pres who refers you to the exec secretary who asks you what tickets you want, and then delivers them to you.   When they run out, they run out. 

 

And the tickets are just to control the crowds, not to keep people out.

I assume the idea is to avoid a lot of people driving up and being disappointed about getting in....

[Deborah]

Why don't the women just go to the chapels and listen to it. I just don't see how it's that big a deal to sit in Priesthood.

[Kenngo1969]

FairMormon Conference actually, and it was Mark Tuttle....I asked him if I could use his name when mentioning this and he gave permission.

I like my explanation better!  It's much more exciting!  Please don't bore me with actual facts!

[ERayR]

I don't understand the push to attend Priesthood Session. They can read the talks in the next Ensign. It's not like it's anything secret. But it is directed to the Priesthood, and often more directly to the Aaronic Priesthood.

 

I want to be included in all those RS meetings where they have the luncheons and deserts.

[cdowis]

Apparently the Marietta East stake is very.... progressive.

 

In the past several years we have invited sister missionaries to stake priesthood, and at least twice we had a "regular" (non-leadership) sister give a talk.  She took the opportunity to lambast the brethren for not doing their duties.

 

I remember years ago when the church had formally invited reporters to General Conference.  I guess they forgot that there were female reporters as well, and denied them permission to attend priesthood session.  So, none of the reporters attended.  To say the least, it was a PR disaster.

[Kenngo1969]

I want to be included in all those RS meetings where they have the luncheons and deserts.

I'll skip the deserts, thanks.  I will, however, opt for the desserts!     (Sorry; couldn't resist!)

[Tacenda]

http://fox13now.com/2013/08/30/group-of-mormon-feminists-push-to-be-part-of-priesthood-meeting-at-general-conference/

It's finally hit the news.

[Calm]

Here is the website:

 

http://ordainwomen.org/

 

Anyone else wonder why those vibrant women want to stand in the zombie line?

[Tacenda]

Here is the website:

 

http://ordainwomen.org/

 

Anyone else wonder why those vibrant women want to stand in the zombie line?

Lol, I just went to the site and now understand your comment!

[mtomm]

Why don't the women just go to the chapels and listen to it. I just don't see how it's that big a deal to sit in Priesthood.

 

I've just heard the third hand stories that they are asked to leave by the priesthood leaders, so that may be why.  

[Calm]

I've just heard the third hand stories that they are asked to leave by the priesthood leaders, so that may be why.  

Probably depends on the ward, I know in my former ward there were women attending.

[cdowis]

"Sister, we want you to give a talk in priesthood meeting.  But, since you can't actually attend the meeting, we will do it by skype."

[Scott Lloyd]

Probably depends on the ward, I know in my former ward there were women attending.

 

 

While it might occur in some locales, I don't think it is considered kosher.

 

Some years ago, a female news reporter assigned to cover general conference attended the priesthood session and sat in the news media section in the Tabernacle. One of the Brethren noticed her presence and was unnerved by it. Thereafter, the priesthood session of conference was closed to the news media, and it has been so ever since.

 

I think, to the Brethren, it amounts to a matter of decorum. (But I hasten to add, that's just an opinion, and I have no inside information, other than firsthand knowledge of the above incident.)

[Scott Lloyd]

I remember years ago when the church had formally invited reporters to General Conference.  I guess they forgot that there were female reporters as well, and denied them permission to attend priesthood session.  So, none of the reporters attended.  To say the least, it was a PR disaster.

This sounds like a garbled version of the incident I just reported in my above post.

 

I was there on the occasion when one female reporter attended a priesthood session. There was not more than one female reporter, there was no boycott engineered by any of the reporters, let alone all of them, and the reason no reporter attended the priesthood session thereafter is that the Church closed the priesthood session to news media.

 

Oh, and no "PR disaster" transpired.

 

Again, I have firsthand knowledge of all of this, because I am a reporter who has covered general conference every year since 1985, and I am personally acquainted with the female reporter (a member of the Church and a returned missionary) who attended the priesthood session on that occasion.

[Calm]

Always good to know someone with firsthand knowledge...

[cdowis]

Possibly the same situation..

 

In the incident I am referring to, I understand that this was the first major attempt by the church to give special access to the press, as part of a larger PR project to introduce the media to the church. 

[Stargazer]

Why don't the women just go to the chapels and listen to it. I just don't see how it's that big a deal to sit in Priesthood.

 

They might actually be asked to leave.  Or maybe not. 

 

I remember that we had sisters doing American Sign Language interpretation at Stake Conference, including during a priesthood session, and the time we had a visiting GA, he afterwards told the stake president to please thank the sisters who were doing it for their good work, but directed the SP to find or train some brethren who could do the ASL interpretation for priesthood session from that time forth.

[MorningStar]

I wonder how these women would feel if men went to the Relief Society general broadcast?

 

Don't you be showing up to listen to our secret stuff.  If you want to listen to it, you need to do it live from home.

[Scott Lloyd]

Possibly the same situation..

In the incident I am referring to, I understand that this was the first major attempt by the church to give special access to the press, as part of a larger PR project to introduce the media to the church.

This is even more confusing, as news media have had access to general conference sessions for many decades -- long before I began covering conference for the Ogden Standard-Examiner in the early 1980s and for the Church News in 1985.

[Scott Lloyd]

Don't you be showing up to listen to our secret stuff. If you want to listen to it, you need to do it live from home.

Just as women need to get our secret stuff from the Ensign or from lds.org